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[edit]Waltzing Matilda is not a waltz
[edit]It just occurred to me, somewhat belatedly, that Australia's semi-official alternative national anthem Waltzing Matilda is not itself a waltz, being in 4/4 time.
I'm trying to think of any other piece of music that references a certain dance form in its title but is set to a different rhythm. Any ideas?
- One half-answer is the 2nd movement of Tchaikovsky's Pathétique Symphony. It is often referred to as a kind of waltz, although the composer never specified any such thing. The thing is, it's in 5/4 time, making for a rather sick waltz. -- Jack of Oz [pleasantries] 09:54, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
- The Jimmy Buffett album Living and Dying in 3/4 Time is not in a consistent time signature. However, the title is derived from the song "Nautical Wheelers". Which is actually on his subsequent album, A1A. --Khajidha (talk) 10:47, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
- The term "waltz" is used rather loosely in that slang term. And it's still used in America too. We might say that so-and-so came waltzing on over. It doesn't mean they danced over, they simply walked nimbly. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 22:04, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
- OT. Several other meanings apply here. It could mean that the person walked across even though he knew it was inappropriate on cultural or etiquette grounds, or because it was forbidden to do so. Here, waltzing on over carries the sense of an act of impertinence or disobedience. For example, if a meeting consisted of female and male groups in separate areas and it is understood that they are not to mingle, a man who crossed to the female group could be said to have come waltzing on over, in disregard for the rule or etiquette. The user of the phrase is usually expressing disapproval and/or annoyance. Akld guy (talk) 06:31, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
- This Pommie agrees with the Kiwi above: such is the primary meaning in Blighty. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.200.138.194 (talk) 09:42, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
- This American agrees with the Southern hemisphere residents above. There's a few more shades of meaning, but my understanding of "waltzing on over" would be more of a swagger than a nimble walk.--Khajidha (talk) 12:27, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
- Minor quibble from the Pommy: Blighty is in the Northern hemisphere! {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.200.138.194 (talk) 15:29, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
- Whoops! Somehow got confused with Oz!--Khajidha (talk) 20:54, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
- Minor quibble from the Pommy: Blighty is in the Northern hemisphere! {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.200.138.194 (talk) 15:29, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
- This American agrees with the Southern hemisphere residents above. There's a few more shades of meaning, but my understanding of "waltzing on over" would be more of a swagger than a nimble walk.--Khajidha (talk) 12:27, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
- This Pommie agrees with the Kiwi above: such is the primary meaning in Blighty. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.200.138.194 (talk) 09:42, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
- OT. Several other meanings apply here. It could mean that the person walked across even though he knew it was inappropriate on cultural or etiquette grounds, or because it was forbidden to do so. Here, waltzing on over carries the sense of an act of impertinence or disobedience. For example, if a meeting consisted of female and male groups in separate areas and it is understood that they are not to mingle, a man who crossed to the female group could be said to have come waltzing on over, in disregard for the rule or etiquette. The user of the phrase is usually expressing disapproval and/or annoyance. Akld guy (talk) 06:31, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
The song Sultans of Swing is not, in fact, swing music, and you cannot swing dance to it. It is, rather, blues rock. --Jayron32 12:12, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
- The Birth of the Blues is not a blues. --jpgordon𝄢𝄆 𝄐𝄇 15:03, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
- And "Rockin' Around the Christmas Tree" is more of a country song than a rock song. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 17:54, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
- Eh. It's rockabilly, which has a foot in both genres. --Jayron32 18:23, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
- It's very much a rock 'n' roll song, in the original meaning. RNR from the 1950's is very different from what we now call rock.--Khajidha (talk) 10:13, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
- Eh. It's rockabilly, which has a foot in both genres. --Jayron32 18:23, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
- And "Rockin' Around the Christmas Tree" is more of a country song than a rock song. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 17:54, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
- We might have built this city on rock & roll, but that song isn't rock; it's just garbage. Matt Deres (talk) 19:21, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
- Well, compacted landfill, at any rate. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.200.138.194 (talk) 09:58, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
Area-specific variations of pan-regional channels
[edit]When it comes to the pan-regional broadcasting, there are cases where country-specific versions are offered. For example, the Southeast Asian version of Fox Movies TV channel, which is transmitted from Hong Kong through satellite, offers specific versions for Malaysia, Vietnam, etc.. But how can I check the number of all available variations? JSH-alive/talk/cont/mail 18:06, 30 March 2019 (UTC)