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Pause button symbol

Is it known where/how the symbol used to denote "pausing" developed? Based on no evidence or reason, I've always seen it as analogous to someone raising a couple of fingers to indicate to servers to stop pouring a drink. Which, I guess, started from the habit of measuring alcoholic drinks by "fingers". But that's pure guesswork/assumption. Maybe it's an extension of the IEC 60417 power symbol? Can anyone do better? If there are references, our article at media control symbols could use them. Matt Deres (talk) 04:24, 1 September 2019 (UTC)

Likeky an adaptation of musical notation for "pause": || Caesura.^[1] 107.15.157.44 (talk) 05:34, 1 September 2019 (UTC)

Problems with that theory are that a caesura generally indicates a short break rather than an indefinite pause; and "pause" in music is synonymous with fermata, not caesura. The idea in Media control symbols that it's a modified "stop" icon seems more plausible, though as Matt says the refs for it are not great. AndrewWTaylor (talk) 07:03, 1 September 2019 (UTC)

Fermata is more of a "hold" (note). The gizmodo link (above) provides additional speculation. 2606:A000:1126:28D:C4E6:C890:C83B:1F95 (talk) 16:30, 1 September 2019 (UTC)

According to the article 'Media control symbols' (and with two sources, though I haven't clicked through to check them) the Pause symbol "was designed as a variation on the existing square Stop symbol and was intended to evoke the concept of an interruption or "stutter stop"." I can't find a source for where the Stop symbol comes from. 165.225.80.120 (talk) 10:47, 3 September 2019 (UTC)

seberrhoic dermatitis

How do you find out if you have seberrhoic dermatitis? is it genetic or can you tell from a blood test? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:8003:7471:6C00:4877:A6B7:1CD6:4D43 (talk) 07:15, 1 September 2019 (UTC)

Seborrhoeic dermatitis is diagnosed by observation of a patient's symptoms and ruling out other possible causes. It is thought to have a genetic factor, but there is no genetic test that can reliably predict or diagnose it. Diagnosis would typically be made following an exam by a physician, usually a dermatologist. Someguy1221 (talk) 07:21, 1 September 2019 (UTC)

My dermatologist told me he thinks I have it and the weird thing is every morning when I have a shower and use my nizoral shampoo my hair looks fine during the day but at night when I go to sleep and wake up in morning its caked with dandruff. Can someone please tell me what this is? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:8003:7471:6C00:4955:DBD2:525:E8C7 (talk) 11:16, 3 September 2019 (UTC)

Yes, your dermatologist can. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 13:12, 3 September 2019 (UTC)

V-nails

They are V-shaped nails (these things) used for holding picture frame together. Is there another name for them, and do we have an article about them? I didn't see anything in Nail (fastener) about them. Thanks. 67.164.113.165 (talk) 08:12, 1 September 2019 (UTC)

V-nails or V-nail joiner seems to be what they're called. If you want to add to article, please do! 2606:A000:1126:28D:C4E6:C890:C83B:1F95 (talk) 14:59, 1 September 2019 (UTC)

Question about Tate murders

Apparently during the Tate murders, perpetrator Tex Watson said "I'm the Devil and I'm here to do the Devil's business", and victim Sharon Tate pleaded to live long enough to give birth, which was denied her.

If everyone present at the site was killed, how do we know this happened? Did the murderers confess this when arrested and tried? JIP | Talk 14:49, 1 September 2019 (UTC)

Susan Atkins liked to blab; she's how the murders were connected to the Manson family in the first place. --jpgordon^{𝄢𝄆 𝄐𝄇} 17:46, 1 September 2019 (UTC)

Other than now being dead, that may be her one redeeming quality. SinisterLefty (talk) 02:50, 2 September 2019 (UTC)

Ozone, Wyoming

Resolved

 – 18:39, 2 September 2019 (UTC)

I'm trying to find evidence that Ozone (maybe O-zone), Wyoming existed (c.1920s). I'm fairly certain that it was near where Rock River, Wyoming is today. 2606:A000:1126:28D:C4E6:C890:C83B:1F95 (talk) 20:44, 1 September 2019 (UTC)

Most of the very few references I can find in Newspapers.com are to an actress who called herself Acquanetta and claimed to have been born there. The only other reference I could find that didn't have to do with actual ozone in the state is in a 1924 article about railroad freight charges, in which it is stated that it is 1,017 miles by rail from Chicago to Ozone, Wyoming. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 02:46, 2 September 2019 (UTC)

Well, there still is a railroad that runs through there. 2606:A000:1126:28D:C4E6:C890:C83B:1F95 (talk) 03:07, 2 September 2019 (UTC)

Not surprising. Your best bet might be to contact a librarian at Rock River, as locals are more likely to know about it. Or else the state historical society. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 06:46, 2 September 2019 (UTC)

This map shows Ozone being between Buford and Cheyenne. Hack (talk) 09:34, 2 September 2019 (UTC)

Yes, about 5 miles east-southeast of Buford, and maybe 3 miles west of Granite Canyon. I-80 seems to parallel the rail line. On Google Maps, I'm not seeing any clear evidence of a town between those two locations, but there could be traces, such as a convenience store. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?}  carrots→ 12:26, 2 September 2019 (UTC)

There are a half dozen buildings N of I-80, at the intersection of 103 and the South Fork South Crow Creek. That might be what's left of the town, after it was annexed to a larger area. BTW, Granite Canyon now seems to be just called Granite. There are several other towns along the railroad tracks then which no longer exist. Perhaps they were there to service the railroad, during construction, and later providing water for steam engines, etc. The railroad seems to be gone now. SinisterLefty (talk) 19:01, 2 September 2019 (UTC)

"Seems to be gone"? That's the Union Pacific mainline! Just eyeballing the map linked by Hack, I'd say Ozone would probably have been about here, but I can't see any trace of it in Google Maps imagery. --76.69.116.4 (talk) 00:53, 3 September 2019 (UTC)

Thanks. I see the railroad now, quite a bit further S than I expected. SinisterLefty (talk) 01:30, 3 September 2019 (UTC)

It seems like the Lincoln Highway crossed the railroad at Ozone. If the I-80 alignment follows the original highway, this might give a clue to the exact location. Hack (talk) 13:06, 4 September 2019 (UTC)

Here's an old, abandoned concrete road that once crossed over the RR; possibly the overpass shown: [?] —2606:A000:1126:28D:B03C:4144:D0CC:6933 (talk) 18:24, 4 September 2019 (UTC)

And it's less than a mile from the location I estimated. Apparently I should've looked at a slightly larger area. Well spotted! --76.69.116.4 (talk) 05:24, 8 September 2019 (UTC)

• Thank you very much, especially Hack for the map! 2606:A000:1126:28D:C4E6:C890:C83B:1F95 (talk) 18:39, 2 September 2019 (UTC)

On google earth there's a fascinating 4-star "historical landmark" near where Ozone was: [2] 2606:A000:1126:28D:C4E6:C890:C83B:1F95 (talk) 19:36, 2 September 2019 (UTC)

Was that the world's first "Don't text and drive" sign? ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 21:38, 2 September 2019 (UTC)

They apparently think it's better to distract drivers with ugly road signs than with texts. SinisterLefty (talk) 00:41, 3 September 2019 (UTC)

So the obvious self-contradictory billboard would read "Don't read billboards and drive." ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 00:46, 3 September 2019 (UTC)

Or they could send that message out in a text. :-) SinisterLefty (talk) 00:48, 3 September 2019 (UTC)

Luckily, being in the middle of Wyoming, it's less of a problem than in populous areas. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 00:54, 3 September 2019 (UTC)

Fans of Vietnamese coffee would've liked Buford.[3] Hack (talk) 01:16, 3 September 2019 (UTC)