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[edit]Hi, just curious how I can improve my recent article on actor Jack Roth so it can be accepted? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.149.30.229 (talk) 10:19, 28 December 2013 (UTC)
I would like to know why the article "Joy Reid" was rejected. Thanks. DavesvetteDavesvette (talk) 03:33, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
- You have no references whatsoever, which is wholly unacceptable for a biography. —Jeremy v^_^v Bori! 07:15, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
Hi, recently I tried to enter a page about the RARA festival for improvised music in Siracusa, Italy. The festival has been held the last years. In 2013 it was held as a program under the city's film festival. Unfortunately the RARA festival, regardless of its quality, has not received much attention from the music press yet, and I assume this is one reason why the article was not accepted. As I myself are an independent writer (as well as a musician/composer) working for various editorial outlets, it would be of great help to have more information about the rejection.
Kind regards, Tellef Øgrim Oslo — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tellefogrim (talk • contribs) 07:22, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
- Your references are all malformed (they need to be inline citations called by
{{reflist}}
at the end, as opposed to just stuck in manually at the end), and in any case seem to be either connected to the subject or user-generated content, which we do not accept. —Jeremy v^_^v Bori! 07:37, 27 December 2013 (UTC)- Sorry, Jeremy, that is not correct, only BLPs are required to have inline citations. Articles on other subjects can be referenced however the author choses, as long as the method used complies with the verification requirement. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 14:31, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
- Dodger67 How can we know what's verifyable if there's no statements bearing the references? Do you expect every reviewer to read the entire article and then read every external link to look for the verifyable facts? Hasteur (talk) 14:48, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
- I was not commenting on the actual verifiability of this draft's references, I have not actually looked at the draft. I was only pointing out that Jeremy's statement that they "need to be inline citations" is incorrect. I know that you know perfectly well that WP:MINREF applies only to BLPs. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 15:02, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
- Hello Tellefogrim, your only source right now is one single local news article, we'd like to see a wider body of sourcing; please see WP:Notability. Also make sure you give full citations; it doesn't help to just name a newspaper, you need to give us the article name and date (instead of requiring readers to click the link to see this). Also, the article reads more like a promotion for the festival than it does a neutral and factual description. We want to see more perspective on how the event is received/described by other music/art authorities, not just RARA itself stating its mission statement and name-dropping a long list of artists who've played there. Does that make sense? MatthewVanitas (talk) 05:44, 28 December 2013 (UTC)
- I was not commenting on the actual verifiability of this draft's references, I have not actually looked at the draft. I was only pointing out that Jeremy's statement that they "need to be inline citations" is incorrect. I know that you know perfectly well that WP:MINREF applies only to BLPs. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 15:02, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
- Dodger67 How can we know what's verifyable if there's no statements bearing the references? Do you expect every reviewer to read the entire article and then read every external link to look for the verifyable facts? Hasteur (talk) 14:48, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
- Sorry, Jeremy, that is not correct, only BLPs are required to have inline citations. Articles on other subjects can be referenced however the author choses, as long as the method used complies with the verification requirement. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 14:31, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
I was wondering the submission status of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Chicago Water Taxi Wendella2013 (talk) 14:37, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
- I submitted the article on your behalf and reviewed it. Take a look at the article to see what I saw as a reason to not accept. Hasteur (talk) 14:46, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
Article acceptance
[edit]Hi, I created the article National centre of research in social and cultural anthropology, how may time it takes to be accepted? Thanx--197.202.43.165 (talk) 15:23, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
- Your submission will be reviewed as many times as it takes to produce an acceptable article. There is a significant backlog, so it could take many weeks to get a review on it. I have given it a review. Hasteur (talk) 15:41, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Brendon David Yohance Harris (Footballer)
The first time I submitted my article for review and publishing it was rejected due to having a blank page. Well it seems like it is happening again. I hit resubmit and a page comes up to hit 'Page Save' at the bottom of the screen but the page that it's saving is blank. I'm not understanding why my page is not being submitted even after originally saving the page and seeing the created page. I need serious help!
Griot5
Griot5 (talk) 15:38, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
- I submitted your page for review (on your behalf) and the page is now in the queue for review. It will be reviewed based on the order in which it entered the review queue. Hasteur (talk) 15:43, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
Review of User:EpiphanyVP/sandbox
[edit]I am looking for assistance with my article. You can find it in my sandbox. Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Shuttleworth & Ingersoll, P.L.C.
This is my first time posting and I would like help editing my article to meet the wiki article requirements. A few concerns I have include citation and making sure the article is non biased. Is there anyone available to help me. I was told to post here instead of in the talk area. I am so confused.
Thanks in advance. --EpiphanyVP (talk) 20:48, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
- First of all, those references to the law firm's own website have to go. Referencing to the website of the subject of an article is in no way Independent. Second, there's a lot of cases listed. It might be a good idea to find a digital source for those cases so that we can understand the contribution of the firm to the case. Finally, there's a very large amount of history, but I can find no recent coverage. Did the firm go dormant? Hasteur (talk) 21:18, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
Hi, this submission was declined because "subject appears to be a non-notable musical performer or work". However, I believe the subject is notable enough to meet both WP:NALBUMS and WP:GNG because the album has been reviewed by critics such as Allmusic (here), Drowned in Sound (here), Exclaim! (here), Pitchfork Media (here), PopMatters (here). The Skinny (here), and XLR8R (here). Will someone please take a second look? 114.150.86.246 (talk) 21:14, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
- Any reason why you did not try asking the reviewer, Pigsonthewing, first? It's common curtosey to seek clarification of the editor who did something before trying to appeal the decision. Hasteur (talk) 21:20, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
- AFAICT, a review in those publications does not confer notability. Happy for third parties to review. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:26, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
My article was declined and I don't know how to improve it to get it accepted. I have done all I can and any help would be sincerely appreciated. - Synsepalum2013 (talk) 21:19, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
- The problem that the reviewer was trying to indicate is that your article, while marginally accurate, depends on several leaps of logic in order to use the term "Voice to Skull". Perhaps you could include the coverage as a subsection in Psychotronics. Hasteur (talk) 21:31, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
- Thank you for your clarification. Much appreciated. Since the article is not accepted yet, I wonder if there is a way for me to get more feedback from other editors. How about RfC (Request for Comment)? - Synsepalum2013 (talk) 17:08, 28 December 2013 (UTC)
Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/BioMA (Biophysical Model Applications)
My submission was declined because of lack of reliable sources. The more than 25 references are however all academic peer reviewed and in fact the reviewer's comment states that there is a conflict of interest because I am co-author in many. I have been project leader for more than 10 years, and this is the reason why. There are also many other co-autors or authors. If the article was submitted by some one else, would that had eliminated the problem of "conflict of interest", given that the references are all academic and also online, so reliability cannot be the problem? I have not asked the reviewer because in his talk page he wrote that he does not reply to requests on articles he rejected. Thanks, Marcello donatelli (talk) 22:35, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
- His comments seem to suggest that he does see your co-authorship in most of the references as the issue, so, yes, it's probably for the better if someone who hasn't drastically contributed to the literature on it do it. —Jeremy v^_^v Bori! 22:58, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
How do you add images to the page, I have a number of photos of the band that I took at recent gigs (that I own the copyright on) and were taken with the permission of the band and I should like to include one or two of these on the page. I have tried inserting and putting a local file reference in but this does not work. do I need to upload centrally to Flickr or similar first ?
Thanks for any help you can giv e as this will help me further improve this page.
Mark
- If you own the copyright and are willing to release it under a free license, try uploading it at Wikimedia Commons as opposed to Wikipedia. If you aren't willing to do so, then we can't accept it, per our nonfree content policy (photographs of living people are easily replaceable with freely-licensed ones, even if such images don't yet exist).
That said, you need to not worry about images and focus on the text of the page and the references first. Save the images for once the article has been accepted. —Jeremy v^_^v Bori! 23:01, 27 December 2013 (UTC)- According to the article, the band appears to be an important pioneer in the synthpop genre (although in 1979 Human League, Tubeway Army and Ultravox were all critically successful, but I digress....) I would look for book or magazine sources that focus on this. You say Dave Gahan cites them as an influence, or at least competition, with Depeche Mode - where did you get the information from? Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 11:01, 29 December 2013 (UTC)