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Should we have interwiki links in nav-templates?[edit]

Pls see Wikipedia talk:Categories, lists, and navigation templates#Request for comment: Use of interlanguage links in Wikipedia templates.--Moxy (talk) 17:12, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

Linking to a fan-created assembly of fair-use sources that is referenced by several RSes[edit]

For the show Stranger Things, which is purposely shot as a homage to several works from 1980s, several secondary, reliable sources have linked to a video created by a fan of the show that has side-by-side shots of short segments (well within US fair use allowances, particularly considering it is for commentary/criticism purposes) of the show against the 1980s works the shots resemble. The referring sources use this to demonstrate the vastness of works that the show purposely or in some cases subconsciously drew from - in other words, these reliable sources agree that this fan video represents a reasonable analysis of the show. It would seem to make sense, barring any article from any RS, to include a link to this fan video in the EL section, possibly alluding to the video via the sources or at least using those references to augment the EL to justify its inclusion.

I definitely would not ask this if it was a random fan video that got no attention from anyone; its only the fact that several outlets (including the producers) have acknowledged this video that makes me wonder if it would be reasonable. Does this seem like a fair argument for inclusion as an EL? --MASEM (t) 17:49, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

Could you provide some of those sources and the link in question? --Ronz (talk) 20:50, 10 February 2017 (UTC)
The comparison video is here at Vimeo.
The key article from Rolling Stone that the Duffers specifically talk about the video.
An example of articles highlighting it Salon, Daily Beast, Esquire and about a zillion more (search "stranger things comparison video" and it comes up.
Please note that I wouldn't want to use the video to justify original research (all 1980s works already mentioned in the show article are directly from interview sources). --MASEM (t) 21:00, 10 February 2017 (UTC)
I think that would be fine. WhatamIdoing (talk) 00:13, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

@Masem and WhatamIdoing: This sounds like reasonable, but I think that this could just as well be incorporated in the prose, if the fan made video is being discussed by the producers (and you have references for that), then saying something along the lines of 'A group of fans created a video,<ref>primary source reference, to video, posts regarding that</ref> which was recognised by the producers.<ref>references where the recognition is shown</ref>' would fit. --Dirk Beetstra T C 03:36, 28 February 2017 (UTC) just a by-the-way: this discussion should be on EL/N

Links to Internet Archive[edit]

Discussion about a bot process changing some links to Internet Archive: Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)#Links_to_Internet_Archive -- GreenC 14:10, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

DMOZ is dead[edit]

DMOZ was taken down today. The template {{dmoz}} (~7300 uses) has been boldly redirected to a mirror as a temporary measure. IMO it would be appropriate to remove most DMOZ links from ==External links== sections, since we don't link to dead sites, and the links on the mirror will eventually be out of date. WhatamIdoing (talk) 05:41, 15 March 2017 (UTC)

Are there any viable alternatives, or is the whole principle outdated (as search engines give the same info, and likely more than even a professionally maintained (let alone a volunteer maintained) internet directory. This may need to be reflected into WP:NOT and WP:EL (and maybe need a wider consultation). --Dirk Beetstra T C 05:47, 15 March 2017 (UTC)
I'm afraid the DMOZ links will have to go eventually. No need to rush it. The links were sometimes useful for readers, and at other times useful for us as a way to tell those promoting websites to try elsewhere, but the concept has been made obsolete by Google. There was a somewhat interesting discussion at slashdot. Johnuniq (talk) 09:19, 15 March 2017 (UTC)