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If you forget to sign, what should you do?[edit]

I almost always sign any comments I make to talk pages - and in fact, I think my editing of Wikipedia consists rather more of comments in talk pages making what are intended to be helpful suggestions than of actual edits to pages. The only times I don't sign these comments are the very few occasions when I have somehow forgotten to.

I'm just wondering what one should do if one discovers that one forget to sign a comment on a talk page. Do you just go back and edit it, even if that edit is just to add the 4 tildes? Would you still do this if you discovered the omission weeks or months later?

I think I did that on one or two occasions; but I really don't know what is officially the way to deal with this. I've just discovered an old comment I forgot to sign, but I saw that some robot did it for me later, and somehow knew my user-name. But it does it in a slightly different way.

The article of which this is the talk page doesn't seem to cover this, so I would appreciate knowing. Thanks.

-- EDIT SECONDS LATER: Ooops, as I did just now! Sorry - Freudian slip, perhaps. M.J.E. (talk) 14:09, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

If you don't spot it until some time later (and the bot hasn't done the job for you) it would be confusing to add the 4 tildes later, as that would give a misleading timestamp. Better to add the correct time, and I find that the easiest way to do that is with Template:Xsign. --David Biddulph (talk) 15:12, 18 April 2016 (UTC)
@M.J.E.: If I realise at the time (or soon after), and nobody else has posted to that thread, I just sign with four tildes and an edit summary like this, a few minutes of "inaccuracy" on the time is of little consequence. If it's some time later, I sign with three tildes, and in the same edit I will manually add a timestamp, that being the date and time of the original post. Often, you may find that in such cases SineBot (talk · contribs) has already dropped by and signed on your behalf. Don't rely on it though. --Redrose64 (talk) 09:23, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
You can also create a similar solution as on the Finnish Wikipedia: fi:Toiminnot:Väärinkäyttösuodatin/78, an edit filter that warns users if they forget to sign their comments. --Stryn (talk) 09:07, 24 April 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for these comments. I don't actually really understand them, but I will look into these suggestions further if I need to; I guess there are help pages which explain all those things in detail which a bit of searching would find. M.J.E. (talk) 11:29, 7 May 2016 (UTC)

Using signatures with the Visual Editor[edit]

This page should describe how to use signatures with Wikipedia's Visual Editor. Right now, typing in ~~~~ results in a message saying that Wikitext is not supported and you should switch to the source editor. It does look like there is a way to insert a signature in the Visual Editor via "Insert" -> "Your Signature", but it looks like it's grayed out sometimes and I have no clue why. -Thunderforge (talk) 18:04, 3 June 2016 (UTC)

It’s annoying to remember![edit]

How about, At least at the times when I click on “new section”, it automatically includes the four tidles on the second line, because once the edit frame is ready I forget all about it. Another way to prevent user forgetfulness is when the user clicks on preview, it adds this string: “Preceding unsigned comment added by…” (no name, or date) to remind the user to add the ~ ~ ~ ~. Charlieb000 (talk) 03:30, 28 June 2016 (UTC)

Hello Charlieb000, see Wikipedia:Village pump (miscellaneous) #Release Automatically signing User: Perhelion 12:17, 28 June 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 July 2016[edit]

please change 2001:DB8:CEEE:21B:DB60:07FE:4277:63FF to 2001:DB8:CEEE:21B:DB60:7FE:4277:63FF because leading zeroes are unnecessary. 95.49.33.102 (talk) 21:55, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: this is the talk page for discussing improvements to the page Wikipedia:Signatures. What you are asking for is a change to the MediaWiki software, which would be handled via a request on Phabricator. --Redrose64 (talk) 22:32, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

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How can I combine two accounts?

2601:1C0:8100:5E68:B04A:8E38:65D8:C7E2 (talk) 13:21, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

You can't. The best thing to do is, decide on one of the accounts and use only that one, and (to avoid any suspicion of sockpuppetry), leave notes on the user pages explaining the relationship. You could use the {{User alternative account}} template, or one of these user boxes. JohnCD (talk) 14:05, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

Idea for including the "even if [...]" info, in the appropriate section[edit]

This is a suggesting for moving (or copying) certain information from one section to another.

As it stands now[edit]

Currently, the section Wikipedia:Signatures#When signatures should and should not be used already says (among other things) that (blockquote #1):

Any posts made to the user talk pages, article talk pages and any other discussion pages must be signed.

IMHO, unless we expect it to be obvious -- (and, at first, it was not obvious to me!) -- I think that it should explicitly state, whether or not that includes editing that is being done without logging in. The last time I checked, it did not.


Eventually, I did find the answer (stated explicitly). It was a little bit further down -- in the section called "Wikipedia:Signatures#How_to_sign_your_posts". There, it says -- (among other things) (blockquote #2):

Note that if you choose to contribute without logging in, regardless of whether you have an account, you should still sign your posts.

IMHO It should be [or "also" be] "where it belongs"[edit]

However, I was (initially) looking for that kind of information (i.e., blockquote #2) in the section where I was expecting to find it -- namely, in the section named "When signatures should and should not be used".

I would have no objection if that kind of information could "also" be found elsewhere -- such as in the "How to sign your posts" section. However, I think that this "informative" Wikipedia:Signatures page would be more helpful to those users (editors) who do not already know this stuff, if that kind of information could [at least!] be found in the section where it seems to belong ... namely, in the "When signatures should and should not be used" section.

Any comments?[edit]

--Mike Schwartz (talk) 07:02, 14 August 2016 (UTC)