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Yellow text[edit]

"For guidance on how to use color and other effects to customize the appearance of your signature, see this tutorial."
The mentioned tutorial uses yellow text on white background as an example. This is nearly unreadable. Is this a good example (or good implied guidance or suggestion) for new users or others that happens to find this signature advice page?
The mentioned tutorial uses yellow text on white background as an example. This is nearly unreadable. Is this a good example (or good implied guidance or suggestion) for new users or others that happens to find this signature advice page? Iceblock (talk) 05:35, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
Fixed [1] NE Ent 11:18, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
Thanks a lot! Iceblock (talk) 22:32, 29 January 2015 (UTC)

How to add your custom signature to a bot-sig[edit]

I propose the following addition:

If you see that a bot signed your post, but you would rather see your custom signature, this can be fixed. The bot will generated this , or similar, code: "<small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Example]] ([[User talk:Example|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Example|contribs]]) 15:27, 31 January 2015‎</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned -->". Change it to this: "~~~ 15:27, 31 January 2015‎". Save the timestamp that was placed by the bot, but replace the rest with three tildes, which will add your custom signature without the date.

I suggest putting this under the heading "Dealing with unsigned comments" under the subheading "placing your custom signature after a bot signs your post". Oiyarbepsy (talk) 15:28, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

Relgious messages in signatures[edit]

Is it acceptable for signatures to contain religious messages? (For example, let's say "Praise the LORD" as an example). (talk) 02:44, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

I would say yes, it's not like it's obscene or a threat. --AmaryllisGardener talk 02:46, 8 March 2015 (UTC)
Yes. NE Ent 03:25, 8 March 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for the replies. This is a surprising and disappointing response. If this is indeed Wikipedia policy then I thoroughly oppose it. (talk) 12:22, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
We have a name for that.... Zeke, the Mad Horrorist (Speak quickly) (Follow my trail) 19:20, 18 April 2015 (UTC)


Am I allowed to sign with...
--[[User:|]] ([[User talk:|talk]]) ~~~~~
-- (talk) 11:38, 8 March 2015 (UTC)
Instead of the regular...
--~~~~? For IP editors this changes the first internal link. (Hover your mouse over the IP addresses to see the difference.)
-- (talk) 11:38, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

Hyphen (or Em Dash)[edit]

The signature and timestamp function (in edit mode) inserts two hyphens in front of the tildes, and this used to be the normal way of formatting a signature (by my recollection). But I've noticed that many signatures no longer include the hyphens. My personal preference is to include the hyphens because they help visually identify the signature (as distinct from the comment). But it would be nice to have the preferred method explicitly described on this page.--Tedd (talk) 16:28, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

Two hyphens is a relic left over from email signatures (see Signature block). It's purpose was to allow software to recognize where the signature block (name, address, witty comments and other junk) began, so it could be formatted differently. There is no reason for hyphens or dashes before a signature at Wikipedia, and the default signature does not use them. Johnuniq (talk) 02:11, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
@Tedd: The RfC at Wikipedia talk:Signatures/Archive 8#Simplifying signatures covered several things, including which of the various horizontal line characters should be preferred. --Redrose64 (talk) 13:47, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
@Johnuniq: The default four-tilde signature doesn't use them, this is true; but clicking the Insert-signature.png or Button sig.png button above the edit box inserts two hyphen-minus characters before the four tildes, like this: --Redrose64 (talk) 14:58, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
Thanks, I'd forgotten about those buttons. I still think the two hyphens are derived from old email habits, but some good editors like them and two dashes are no problem. I was just observing that two hyphens are not part of the default four-tilde signature, and they had a purpose for email signature blocks that does not apply on a wiki. Johnuniq (talk) 23:37, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
I don't know why the hyphens aren't removed from the buttons. All guidance says to use four tildes. In fact, Wikipedia:Signatures § How to sign your posts is incorrect when it says:

If you are using the edit toolbar option (it usually appears above the edit screen as a default), click the signature icon: or , to add the four tildes.

I doesn't say anything about adding two hyphens as well, which could confuse editors who mistake --~~~~ for six tildes (or six hyphens). sroc 💬 06:07, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
I think that the hyphens remain on the buttons because it's built into the MediaWiki software, and as such is shared with the other languages and Wikis (Commons, Meta, Wiktionary, etc.). Removing the two hyphens either means making English Wikipedia inconsistent with the others, or it means removing them from all languages and wikis, which may be controversial. --Redrose64 (talk) 16:13, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
@Redrose64: Ah, interesting. In any case, shouldn't the above documentation be revised to note this idiosyncrasy? sroc 💬 07:04, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
I'd revised the documentation accordingly. sroc 💬 08:08, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
These technology-derived explanations don't ring true to me. I suspect the double hyphens, which are a standard typological convention where em dashes aren't available, derive from the formatting used for quote attribution (as, for example, in the Chicago Manual of Style). The purpose is to visually distinguish the attribution from the rest of the text, for clarity. This same point is raised on the talk page that User:Redrose64 linked to, above. That is also why I prefer the method.--Tedd (talk) 03:26, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 April 2015[edit]

I think someone should change the color values in the note under Appearance and colors to actually be the color so you don't have to be a genius / have an external tool to figure out the color. This is (would be) just a minor change. Randomdude999 (talk) 14:36, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. — {{U|Technical 13}} (etc) 15:26, 29 April 2015 (UTC)