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I just created this wikiproject, after several months of contemplating doing so. I hope everyone working on hurricane articles will get involved. I went ahead and wrote a bunch of guidelines, basically based on current practices...naturally since this is something I just wrote it doesn't necessarily represent community consensus and needs to be discussed. That discussion should probably go here for now...although eventually we may make these pages a little more structured. For a general TODO list, see the "tasks" item on the project page. Jdorje 23:17, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

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Article up for promotion to A-Class[edit]

List any proposed A-Class assessments here. Discussion will take place on the article talk page. In general, at least two people should endorse promotion.

UTC bot?[edit]

So, there was a discussion a while back on an FAC of mine, can't remember which one now, but essentially, we have to include a colon : in the timing. So 1800 UTC should be 18:00 UTC. Should we get a bot to fix these? It should be an easy fix. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 17:29, 13 September 2015 (UTC)

Anyone have any thoughts on this? ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 15:57, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
Would be nice to have, yeah. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 15:58, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

Source guide for tropical cyclone articles by User:Hylian Auree[edit]

All of the below is based on style guidelines per WP:MOS.
Note: The names and titles used as examples in this guide are fictional and do not represent real articles or reports unless otherwise stated


  • For news and journal articles, the title of the article needs to be written in lower case. Naturally, proper nouns, as well as names of places, people, etc., retain their capitalization. Example: Not More Than 500,000 Left Homeless in Brenden Moses County by Hurricane Julian, but More than 500,000 left homeless in Brenden Moses County by Hurricane Julian.
  • For reports, books, press releases, and conferences, the title of the text should be fully capitalized. Example: Not Rainfall report on Hurricane Julian and its tropical remnants in Brenden Moses County, but Rainfall Report on Hurricane Julian and its Tropical Remnants in Brenden Moses County.
  • For regular websites, the reference title assumes the capitalization format of the original website title. However, full-caps words or titles still need to be rewritten in lower case.
  • All titles should have proper punctuation per the WP:MOS (e.g. straight  '  rather than curly    apostrophes or quotation marks, spaced en dashes instead of misused spaced hyphens, unspaced colons, semicolons, etc.), even when the source titles may not be stylized as such. Example: Not Brenden Moses County on alert : JULIAN plays wait-and-see - Forecasters warn of storm’s “undivinable” nature, but Brenden Moses County on alert: Julian plays wait-and-see – Forecasters warn of storm's "undivinable" nature.


  • The publication date of a source is listed in the |date= field. While this can normally be found at the top of the source, it is sometimes hidden in a more obscure location (e.g. the bottom of the page, the page history, or the url of the page). For web sources that are frequently updated, use the most recent revision date. If the source is undated, this needs to be indicated by adding "n.d.", as such: |date=n.d.
  • For online sources on web pages that may be suspect to domain changes, the retrieval date (the date upon which the source was found and last accessed) is listed in the |accessdate= field. This is always the case for online newspapers or web sites, though retrieval dates should be considered for online reports as well. For books and journals, even when electronic (such as Google Books), a retrieval date is unnecessary.

Authors vs publishers in reports, press releases or documents[edit]

  • Although these all fall under the |publisher= field, it is rather cumbersome and impractical to include every single parent department (NCEP, NWS, NOAA) in |publisher= for a report or document published by the WPC. Therefore, simply listing the lowest branch as the publisher suffices (so Rainfall Report on Hurricane Julian (Report). Weather Prediction Center.  rather than Rainfall Report on Hurricane Julian (Report). Weather Prediction Center; National Centers for Environmental Prediction, NOAA.  or something).
  • Above all: DO NOT compartmentalize these branches and spread them across the fields. These are the |publisher= of reports, not the |author= or |work=. Example: NOT Hink, Andrew; Weather Prediction Center (2015). Rainfall Report on Hurricane Julian. National Centers for Environmental Prediction (Report) (College Park, MD: National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration). , but simply Hink, Andrew (2015). Rainfall Report on Hurricane Julian (Report). College Park, MD: Weather Prediction Center. )
  • The |work= field is often redundant here, unless the referenced report/document is part of a project, database, or contained in a separate website. In this case the project/database/website name may be listed as work, though this is often optional.
  • A recent example I came across can be found here. This is an undated rainfall report for Hurricane Earl (2010) from Météo-France published on their site, so an appropriate formatting would be {{cite report|url=|title=Earl 2010: Ouragan|publisher=Météo France|date=n.d.|accessdate=September 13, 2015}}. However, note the "Pluies Extrêmes Aux Antilles" ("Extreme Rainfall in the Antilles") at the top of the webpage and within the url; this suggests this is a separate web archive/database for extreme rainfall events in the Antilles, documented by Meteo France as an extension of their website ( In this case, the |work= parameter may serve disclose this additional information.

Newspaper vs publisher vs agency vs author in news articles[edit]

  • In the |newspaper= field (or the more obsolete |work= field), list the name of the newspaper. Online newspapers are sometimes hard to distinguish from web or radio sites; looking for an "About us" section on the site or searching the newspaper name on Wikipedia may help in this case.
  • The |publisher= parameter is used for sources from broadcasters (i.e. BBC), news channels (i.e. CNN, Fox News), radio channels (CBS Radio), etc. For newspapers, listing the publisher is unnecessary and redundant.
  • The most frequent error I see in newspaper citation formatting is misusing the |author= field for the news agency (i.e. AFP, AP, Reuters, etc.). There is a special |agency= field to list these agencies. Again, only names of individuals should be included in the |author= field.

give me a storm Suggestion[edit]

Give me a storm sugesstion Fun Cake (talk) 21:40, 20 September 2015 (UTC)

New thing: Geostationary images[edit]

Hello. Since earlier this year, someone decided to start uploading Geostationary Satellite images in the 2015 PTS article for current/active TCs. So I did the same, upload and update the images. Today, I looked deeply through the same site and found geostationary images for the EPac and the Atlantic storms. What do you guys think? Should we start uploading (and updating) geostationary storm images whenever they're active? Btw I uploaded the Geostationary images of Marty and Joaquin to start if off. Typhoon2013 (talk) 03:35, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

No one's replying. That's a shame for me. :( I guess it's a yeah. We really do need Geostationary images for all 3 basins. I will find if the NRL are also uploading images in other basins. Typhoon2013 (talk) 07:49, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
If they're available, why not! But I'm not sure whether they ought to replace all MODIS infobox images; some of those give a clearer view of the storm's structure and surroundings. Auree 19:39, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
I think that's an alright idea, and I suggest that geostationary images be used in the future for currently active storms. Dustin (talk) 20:06, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

hurricane lit[edit]

Just for da fun of it: Hurricane Lit.  Lingzhi ♦ (talk) 13:38, 3 October 2015 (UTC)