New Firm (Scotland)

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New Firm
City or region North-east Scotland
Teams involved Aberdeen and Dundee Utd
Number of meetings 232
Most wins Aberdeen

The New Firm is the term used, hailing from the 1980s, to describe the rivalry between Scottish football clubs Aberdeen and Dundee United. Both clubs are located on the east coast of Scotland, in the third and fourth most populous cities respectively.

Although not traditionally a derby, with 65 miles separating both teams, the fixture was seen as a North-east of Scotland derby between the two most successful teams in Scotland outside of the Old Firm during the 1980s. Dundee United also have a more traditional rivalry with their close neighbours Dundee.

History[edit]

The term originated in the 1980s, when both clubs challenged the Old Firm for domestic trophies.[1] The term was used by Evening Times and The Glasgow Herald.[2][3]

The Old Firm have more often than not been the dominant force in Scottish Football, however throughout the 1980s both Aberdeen and Dundee United were more than a match for them, regularly beating them home and away and winning most of the trophies on offer.[citation needed]

Aberdeen were to win the Scottish Premier Division three times, the Scottish Cup four times, the Scottish League Cup twice and the European Cup Winners Cup and the European Super Cup, all within the 1980s.

In this same period, Dundee United won the Scottish Premier Division once, and the Scottish League Cup twice, as well as reaching the Scottish Cup final four times, the UEFA Cup final, and the European Cup semi-final.

Not only were the Old Firm not dominating the title race, for three seasons in a row, 1983 through to 1985, the league title went to either Aberdeen or Dundee United, meaning for the first time two other teams were dominating Scottish Football.

Both sides' success was limited as they entered the 1990s. Aberdeen winning the Scottish Cup in 1990, and reaching cup finals in 1992 and 1993 as well as almost winning the league in 1991, while Dundee United were cup finalists in 1991 and Scottish Cup winners in 1994. However in the 1994/95 season both sides fought relegation, and although Aberdeen won the Scottish League Cup in 1995 and Dundee United the Scottish Cup in 2010, neither side has managed to be a consistent force for Rangers and Celtic to reckon with, and Aberdeen's league success in 1984/85 is the last time a team from outside the Old Firm has won the Scottish league title.

Domestic head-to-head[edit]

In domestic head-to-head matches, the teams have played each other 232 times, Aberdeen winning 91 compared to United's 74.[4] Aberdeen have won more league and Scottish Cup matches, although United have won one more League Cup match between the two.

After 10 August 2014:
Team League Scottish Cup League Cup Total
Aberdeen 71 11 9 91
Dundee United 58 6 10 74
Draw 53 9 5 67

League competition[edit]

Scottish Premiership Table (2013/14-present - 1st Season)

As of 23 August 2014:
Club Seasons Played W D L GF GA GD Pts
Aberdeen 2 41 21 8 12 55 42 13 71
Dundee United 2 42 19 10 13 72 57 15 67

SPL Table (1998/99-2012/13 - 15 Seasons)

Club Seasons Played W D L GF GA GD Pts
Aberdeen 15 566 188 143 235 651 785 -134 707
Dundee United 15 566 173 162 231 674 845 -171 681

European competition[edit]

As of 09 August 2012:
Team T P W D L F A
Dundee United 26 110 46 30 34 168 116
Aberdeen 27 109 44 28 37 160 130

Players at both clubs[edit]

Nine players have signed for Dundee United directly from Aberdeen, the last being in 2000. Ten have made the opposite journey from Tannadice to Pittodrie, with five since August 2005.

Complete list[edit]

In addition, other players have played for both clubs without moving directly between them. A list of all players to have played at least one first-team game for both clubs is displayed below.

Player records[edit]

A list of players to have scored in derby matches between the two from 27 August 1994 up to 10 August 2014 is below:

Partial game list[edit]

Fixtures from 27 August 1994 to the present day featuring League games, Scottish Cup and League Cup matches.[23][24] Aberdeen wins are coloured in red, United wins in tangerine and draws are grey.

Date Competition Venue Result Crowd Scorers (Aberdeen) Scorers (United)
27 Aug 1994 Premier Division Tannadice
2-1
9,332 Grant Welsh, Brewster
29 Oct 1994 Premier Division Pittodrie
3-0
11,744 Kane (2), Booth
2 Jan 1995 Premier Division Tannadice
0-0
10,560
6 May 1995 Premier Division Pittodrie
2-1
20,124 Dodds, Shearer Winters
28 Sep 1996 Premier Division Tannadice
1-0
10,359 McSwegan
16 Nov 1996 Premier Division Pittodrie
3-3
13,807 Kiriakov, Kombouaré, Dodds McLaren, Winters, Olofsson
1 Jan 1997 Premier Division Tannadice
4-0
9,736 Winters, Pressley (2), Olofsson
15 Mar 1997 Premier Division Pittodrie
1-1
13,645 Windass Olofsson
30 Aug 1997 Premier Division Pittodrie
1-1
12,060 Dodds Winters
15 Oct 1997 League Cup SF Tynecastle
1-3
10,456 Windass Winters (2), Easton
9 Nov 1997 Premier Division Tannadice
5-0
7,893 Olofsson (2), Zetterlund, McLaren, Easton
3 Jan 1998 Premier Division Pittodrie
1-0
17,025 Windass
24 Jan 1998 Scottish Cup R3 Tannadice
1-0
11,488 Winters
11 Apr 1998 Premier Division Tannadice
0-0
9,155
4 Oct 1998 Premier League Tannadice
1-0
8,933 McSwegan
28 Nov 1998 Premier League Pittodrie
0-3
11,964 Olofsson, J.Miller, Easton
20 Feb 1999 Premier League Tannadice
3-0
8,309 Olofsson, Dodds, Hannah
17 Apr 1999 Premier League Pittodrie
0-4
11,603 Dodds (2), J.Miller, Olofsson
18 Sep 1999 Premier League Pittodrie
1-2
11,814 Dow Hannah, Dodds
6 Nov 1999 Premier League Tannadice
3-1
8,170 Solberg Dodds (2), Paterson
27 Dec 1999 Premier League Pittodrie
3-1
16,656 Zerouali, Belabed, Stavrum Hannah
13 Feb 2000 League Cup SF Dens
1-0
9,500 Stavrum
12 Mar 2000 Scottish Cup QF Tannadice
0-1
6,738 Jess
25 Mar 2000 Premier League Tannadice
1-1
6,723 Stavrum Ferraz
23 Sep 2000 Premier League Tannadice
3-5
7,699 Winters (3), Young, Jess Easton, McConalogue, Hannah
17 Mar 2001 Premier League Tannadice
1-1
8,457 Winters C.Miller
4 Apr 2001 Premier League Pittodrie
4-1
9,962 Stavrum (3), Young Griffin
20 May 2001 Premier League Pittodrie
1-2
11,633 Stavrum Venetis, Lilley
15 Sep 2001 Premier League Pittodrie
2-1
12,948 Winters, Zerouali McIntyre
15 Dec 2001 Premier League Tannadice
1-1
9,129 Winters Easton
16 Feb 2002 Premier League Pittodrie
4-0
13,612 Winters, Young (2), Mike
11 Sep 2002 Premier League Pittodrie
1-2
10,724 Mackie Thompson (2)
30 Nov 2002 Premier League Tannadice
1-1
8,621 McGuire Hamilton
16 Feb 2003 Premier League Pittodrie
3-0
9,146 Sheerin (2), McGuire
24 May 2003 Premier League Tannadice
0-2
8,516 Mackie, Tosh
18 Oct 2003 Premier League Pittodrie
0-1
11,234 McLaren
17 Jan 2004 Premier League Tannadice
3-2
8,888 Booth, Clark Robson, C.Miller, Dodds
3 Apr 2004 Premier League Pittodrie
3-0
8,449 Hinds, McGuire, Sheerin
11 Sep 2004 Premier League Tannadice
1-1
10,995 Mackie Wilson
27 Nov 2004 Premier League Pittodrie
1-0
12,038 Tosh
27 Feb 2005 Scottish Cup QF Tannadice
4-1
8,661 Byrne Archibald, Grady (2), Crawford
2 Mar 2005 Premier League Tannadice
1-2
6,688 Diamond, Stewart Scotland
30 Jul 2005 Premier League Tannadice
1-1
12,404 Nicholson L.Miller
25 Oct 2005 Premier League Pittodrie
2-0
10,720 Smith, Crawford
7 Jan 2006 Scottish Cup R3 Tannadice
2-3
8,218 Crawford (2), Nicholson Fernandez (2)
21 Jan 2006 Premier League Tannadice
1-1
9,936 Mackie Archibald
21 Oct 2006 Premier League Pittodrie
3-1
10,747 Mackie, Nicholson (2) Robson
30 Dec 2006 Premier League Tannadice
3-1
12,329 Severin Samuel (2), Robson
7 Apr 2007 Premier League Pittodrie
2-4
12,148 Lovell, Mackie Daly, Hunt, Cameron (2)
4 Aug 2007 Premier League Tannadice
1-0
12,496 D.Robertson
3 Nov 2007 Premier League Pittodrie
2-0
11,964 Aluko, L.Miller
19 Jan 2008 Premier League Tannadice
3-0
8,579 Hunt, Robson (2)
5 Feb 2008 League Cup SF Tynecastle
1-4
12,046 Considine Dods, Kalvenes, Conway, Gomis
3 May 2008 Premier League Pittodrie
2-1
10,312 Foster, Touzani Swanson
20 Sep 2008 Premier League Pittodrie
0-1
11,041 Sandaza
8 Nov 2008 Premier League Tannadice
2-1
9,490 Mackie Sandaza, Feeney
21 Feb 2009 Premier League Pittodrie
2-2
14,673 Severin, Diamond Sandaza, D.Robertson
7 May 2009 Premier League Tannadice
1-1
10,407 L.Miller Goodwillie
24 Oct 2009 Premier League Pittodrie
0-2
11,776 Casalinuovo, Gomis
2 Jan 2010 Premier League Tannadice
0-1
10,032 Mulgrew
20 Mar 2010 Premier League Pittodrie
2-2
9,316 Diamond, Paton Daly (2)
11 Sep 2010 Premier League Tannadice
3-1
9,793 Vernon Daly, og, Goodwillie
1 Jan 2011 Premier League Pittodrie
1-1
12,487 Maguire Goodwillie
7 Mar 2011 Premier League Tannadice
3-1
7,416 Magennis Douglas, Conway, Swanson
15 Oct 2011 Premier League Pittodrie
3-1
10,256 Árnason, Mawéné, Considine Dalla Valle
2 Jan 2012 Premier League Tannadice
1-2
11,471 Chalali, Árnason Daly
7 Apr 2012 Premier League Pittodrie
3-1
8,439 Mackie, Clark, Jack Daly
20 Oct 2012 Premier League Tannadice
1-1
9,858 McGinn Rankin
2 Jan 2013 Premier League Pittodrie
2-2
13,176 Vernon, McGinn Gunning, og
6 Apr 2013 Premier League Tannadice
1-0
8,577 Boulding
19 Oct 2013 Premiership Pittodrie
1-0
12,654 Zola
1 Jan 2014 Premiership Tannadice
1-2
12,601 Robson, Pawlett Souttar
29 Mar 2014 Premiership Pittodrie
1-1
14,627 McGinn Paton
6 May 2014 Premiership Tannadice
1-3
8,677 Vernon (3) Dillon
10 Aug 2014 Premiership Pittodrie
0-3
16,471 Dow, Mackay-Steven, Erskine
13 Dec 2014 Premiership Tannadice
-
31 Jan 2015 Premiership Pittodrie
-

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