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Did you know... that use of the 1604 Book of Common Prayer was authorized by the king of England, but later outlawed by Parliament?

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My beloved and under-appreciated 1604 prayer book finally gets the full article treatment. I hope to expand the article somewhat more, but this is enough to start! ~ Pbritti (talk) 18:39, 5 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 10:11, 22 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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King James I's proclamation authorizing the 1604 prayer book

... that several copies of the 1604 Book of Common Prayer were annotated to create the still-used 1662 prayer book? Source: The History of the Book of Common Prayer, pg. 316; A New History of the Book of Common Prayer with a Rationale of its Offices, chapter linked
- ALT1: ... that using the 1604 Book of Common Prayer was authorized by the king of England but later outlawed by Parliament? Source: "The Book of Common Prayer: a Timeline: Chronologie du Book of Common Prayer"; Griffiths, David N. (2002). The Bibliography of the Book of Common Prayer 1529-1999. Pg. 106.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Florida Criminal Justice Standards & Training Commission

Created by Pbritti (talk). Self-nominated at 19:50, 5 December 2022 (UTC).[reply]

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QPQ: Done.

Overall: Epicgenius (talk) 14:48, 7 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Reasons why it was objectionable to the Puritans[edit]

'The reaction to the 1604 prayer book from the Puritan party was sharply critical of both the newly authorized liturgy, baptismal regeneration, and kneeling to receive Communion.'

An explanation why the Puritans considered these things to be wrong and incompatible with their more general religious principles would be in order here. 87.126.21.225 (talk) 10:59, 30 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

explained in Puritans article[edit]

clarify|date=December 2022--Were there any "non-godly" ones? In other words, is the point of the adjective to separate them from another faction? If so, which one? If not, what is the point? And are these scare quotes, which would be prohibited by WP:NPOV? ... this is all explained in the WP article on Puritans, which is linked within this article. It doesn't need explanation here. -HammerFilmFan 2603:6080:2103:3FA2:E589:A3D2:868A:321C (talk) 12:52, 30 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

What is explained in the main article is that they all called themselves 'godly', but this means that the phrase 'the "godly" Puritans of England' is tautological and that there *is* no point of the adjective, it's just superfluous. The fact that tautology is normally avoided is what made the sentence confusing. Thus, I've removed the adjective.--87.126.21.225 (talk) 09:19, 15 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Adjective provides contemporary term, as "Puritan" is something of a later term in some contexts involved. Restoring it. ~ Pbritti (talk) 15:06, 15 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]