Talk:Day of the Dead

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Celebrations is a poor choice[edit]

Currently "The celebration occurs on November 2 in connection"


Shouldn't it be "The memorial parade occurs on November 2 in connection"

More so? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.132.1.124 (talk) 12:51, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

its actually right. but ehy is it salebrates in novembre?و — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.72.202.133 (talk) 21:26, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

dia de los muertos[edit]

the correct spanish translation should be "dia de muertos" not dia de los muertos, this is the way the celebration is called in (at least) central Mexico. 189.181.64.210 (talk) 00:34, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

I Live in northern Mexico and we call it Dia de Los Muertos. Maybe we can put at the very beginning "Day of The Dead" Also called Dia de Los Muertos and Dia de muertos, in various regions of mexico. --steveMX (talk) 18:19, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
since its all of the country I think both translations should be in the article 189.181.245.113 (talk) 23:03, 12 November 2010 (UTC).
I am also northern Mexican. I call it Dia de Muertos. Both translations should be valid, with article de los, or without de. This is a fascinating topic, whether the article, in Spanish or English or another language, gives it or not a different emphasis should be explained by a true linguist.85.181.157.61 (talk) 19:22, 19 October 2013 (UTC)

I am from New Mexico and they call it Dia de los Muertos. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.161.22.19 (talk) 23:09, 4 May 2014 (UTC)

I came to the talk page to suggest Dia de los Muertos. I live in San Diego (I know, it's not Mexico) and here it is always celebrated as Dia de los Muertos.[1] In fact I have never heard it called anything else; even when I Google Dia de Muertos it comes back as Dia de los Muertos.[2][3] Is there some way we can get a decision here, which is a better way to translate it? --MelanieN (talk) 03:08, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
@MelanieN: The article at Spanish Wikipedia is titled Día de Muertos (it's linked in the very first sentence). If they rename their article, we should update ours to suit. But so long as the Spanish Wikipedia omits "los", we should as well. --Redrose64 (talk) 16:05, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
Good point. We should probably follow their lead. --MelanieN (talk) 16:13, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

Only some[edit]

Instead of "is a holiday celebrated in Mexico and by Latin Americans living in the United States and Canada", it should be "is a holiday celebrated in Mexico and by some Latin Americans living in the United States and Canada" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.150.163.164 (talk) 17:11, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

I agree.85.181.157.61 (talk) 19:25, 19 October 2013 (UTC)

removed link[edit]

Removed external link. The link is broken and the site is not in English nor in Spanish (looks like Chinese)Días de los Muertos photo and information site. -—Preceding unsigned comment added by DanKilo (talkcontribs) (23:30, 26 August 2009)

Dia de Muertos is different from All Saints Day but it is hard to explain[edit]

I would like to stress that the article should refer only to the Mexican Dia de Muertos. By this I mean, this celebration is not the same as All Saints Day, rather it is a mix between the original traditions of the Aztecs and the Catholic festivity. This is something that most people in this Talk section fail to understand. This article is not about "how Mexicans celebrate the All Saints Day", Dia de Muertos has evolved in a festivity of its own which blends and overlaps with the All Saints Day. This is why it's so difficult to explain to a broader audience. Originally, it was a collection of pre-Columbian rites honouring the deceased; as the Spanish colonizers arrived, they took the rites and made them to coincide with the All Saints Day. This was the brilliance of their doing: instead of just banning and eradicating a pagan celebration, they shaped it, and brought it closer to Catholic traditions. This is how eventually the conquerors managed to gain the trust of the natives and convert them to the Christian faith, not by way of extermination, but by shaping their beliefs. I am not an expert, but I believe this contrasts with the way colonization happened in the modern United States and Canada.

To me, Dia de Muertos is an interesting phenomenon in that it basically consists of customs that are strictly pagan (not-Christian), but which nevertheless are observed by Mexican Catholics, but also by the general population, adherent to an organised religion or not. Why would the Catholic church tolerate a pagan rite then? My explanation is that Dia de Muertos is a harmless celebration that, in general, aligns with the principles of the church to promote good will (to remember the deceased, to be good and be aware of one's own mortality). So, even if some paganism is involved, as long as it keeps the people engaged in the church, everything is fine. Trying to set up a parallel example here, I feel it would be like a faithful Chinese Catholic setting an altar for Budda or similar. Strictly speaking, Budda is a pagan character, but as long as it does not go in confrontation with the Catholic belief system, everything is fine. 92.231.43.202 (talk) 20:18, 19 October 2013 (UTC)

"This is how eventually the conquerors managed to gain the trust of the natives and convert them to the Christian faith, not by way of extermination, but by shaping their beliefs."
Burning disbelievers at the stake also helped. Kaldari (talk) 01:11, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

No sources on this[edit]

"Scholars trace the origins of the modern Mexican holiday to indigenous observances dating back hundreds of years and to an Aztec festival dedicated to the goddess Mictecacihuatl. The holiday has spread throughout the world: In Brazil Dia de Finados is a public holiday that many Brazilians celebrate by visiting cemeteries and churches."

Christians have they own day of the dead, and there is no proof that the Brazilian dia of the dead is influenced in any form by the mexican one. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.42.25.44 (talk) 23:46, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

Is it 1, 2, or 3 days long?[edit]

While reading this article, I first got the impression that Day of the Dead was 1 day long: "... the day is a bank holiday", "Date: October 31". Reading further, I learn it is actually 3 days long: "The celebration takes place on October 31, November 1 and November 2", "Begins: October 31; Ends: November 2". Reading even further, however, I discover both of those are wrong and the holiday is actually 2 days long: "Duration: 2 days". So I give up. How long is Day of the Dead?? Kaldari (talk) 05:09, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

Duration varies by local tradition. In my experience (10 years) here, Ive seen anywhere from 1 to three days. Its it is one day, it is November 2, with November 1 and sometimes 31 October.Thelmadatter (talk) 03:09, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

Pixar project[edit]

Pixar is going to make a film about Dia de Los Muertos in 2016. 68.4.46.214 (talk) 14:47, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

X mark.svg Not done The Pixar project is a movie tentatively titled Dia de los Muertos, not about day of the dead. It seems to be a zombie film of some sort, not relevant for this article about the holiday. Tarl.Neustaedter (talk) 16:01, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 February 2014[edit]

Pixar is going to make a film about Dia de los Muertos in TBA. 68.99.188.247 (talk) 00:14, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

Do you have a reliable source for this information? -- Fyrael (talk) 04:53, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
Try Pixar. I'd suggest it's too early. Once the movie has actually been made and a release date exists, it might be worth adding a disambiguation link to the movie page which will undoubtedly be created. Tarl.Neustaedter (talk) 05:05, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Also, you may want to see WP:CRYSTALBALL. — {{U|Technical 13}} (tec) 19:20, 15 February 2014 (UTC)