Talk:Dwight D. Eisenhower
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This statement rings phoney: "Dwight developed a keen and enduring interest in exploring outdoors, hunting/fishing, cooking and card playing from an illiterate named Bob Davis who lived by the river." It sounds like the SNL sketch of the motivational speaker who lives in a van down by the river. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.127.116.11 (talk) 17:49, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
Never mind. Reference  p. 23 has thr Bob Davis story. Davis is described as a trapper, guide, and fisherman (and illiterate), but does not locate his residence by the river.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 18.104.22.168 (talk) 18:07, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
- I also have yet to find a reliable source that states Davis lived "by" the river. Eisenhower wrote (in At Ease; current reference 28) that they "spent weekends together on the river" though that's not a clear statement that Davis lived there. —ADavidB 00:34, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
- On reviewing reliable sources, I could only verify that Davis camped on the (Smoky Hill) river. I added source citations and tweaked the text accordingly. —ADavidB 02:09, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
Another citation request, for the statement "Upon discovery of the Nazi concentration camps, he ordered camera crews to document evidence of the atrocities in them for use in the Nuremberg Trials." There are varying versions of whom he ordered to visit the concentration camps (the other version says any US troops that were nearby: "Eisenhower also ordered every American soldier in the area who was not on the front lines to visit Ohrdruf and Buchenwald." -- this version is at the Eisenhower Memorial website on the Wayback Machine, at http://web.archive.org/web/20041112001453/http://www.eisenhowermemorial.org/stories/death-camps.htm ). Does anyone know of a source that quotes the order verbatim? WilliamWQuick (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 18:06, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
A user boldly removed a bunch of award categories from the article. I temporarily reversed this because I think such a major change should probably be discussed. It's questionable to me whether some of these award categories should exist—but here, the question is while they do exist, should this article be removed from all of them, some of them, or none of them? Good Ol’factory (talk) 20:00, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
- Without the awards categories, Eisenhower is still in 30 categories. That is still so many that it will overwhelm most users. I think he should be removed from absolutely all awards cats.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:05, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
- Comment Some of these awards are ones that in some cases are the key to a person's notability, such as possibly some of the crosses of war from maybe France or Belgium. However it is not a notable fact for Eisenhower that he got those awards.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:21, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
Should the "Presidency" sections be significantly shortened, with the bulk of its material moved over to Presidency of Dwight D. Eisenhower? Even though that's supposedly the "main article" about his presidency, the Presidency section here is far more comprehensive on the subject than is that entire article. As things stand currently, it actually seems pointless to me for that article to even exist. 22.214.171.124 (talk) 06:53, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
- It is correct, and it is explained--in the text of the article, should you get a chance to read it. Lithistman (talk) 22:37, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
Moments ago I added this column as a source for the listing at List of contract bridge people#Famous people and bridge:
- < ref >Walker, Karen (June 2009). "D-Day Memories of the Bridge Player in Chief". [ACBL] District 8 Advocate (Illinois, in part; online at comcast.net/~dist8adv). . Retrieved 2015-01-10.</ref>
Civil Rights, Earl Warren, "Big Black Bucks" and Steven Ambrose
As anyone that studies Eisenhower knows by now, anything that Ambrose attributes to his "personal interviews" with Eisenhower, which didn't actually take place, need to be vetted from a third source. And not one that just points back to the same inventions.
There are two totally discredited urban legends that people come along and add for some reason:
1) That Eisenhower stated that Earl Warren was his "worst mistake as President" because Warren was progressive. Never said it. Didn't happen. Or at least we can't prove it. If you can, and it does not involve a chain of references back to fictional Amrbose inventions, please add it back.
2) That Eisenhower made some statement about Southerners not being "all that bad", they just "don't want some big black buck sitting next to their little blonde girl" (paraphrased). Again, no one has a credible reference for this.
Please do not add these back without a non-circular reference back to the same discredited or absent source. They are exceptionally ad-hominem and exception claims require exceptional evidence.
While the fact that Eisenhower had stated that Earl Warren was his "worst mistake as President" is disputed, it is not an urban legend that Eisenhower told Earl Warren that Southerners "don't want some big black buck sitting next to their little blonde girl". Warren himself stated that in his memoirs, published after his death in 1974. There are reliable sources: ,!Olegwiki (talk) 20:58, 18 January 2015 (UTC)
- That NYTimes article does qualify Warren's memoir with "While writing his book, Warren may have been feeling especially bitter toward Eisenhower, who had been quoted as saying that Warren’s appointment was one of his biggest mistakes as president" which may be a warning that Warren is unreliable. It's not clear also whether the article author is quoting Warren or quoting Warren quoting Ike. A direct reference to the memoirs would be more useful. GraemeLeggett (talk) 22:36, 18 January 2015 (UTC)