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Name[edit]

Since it says Guyane officially, shouldn't that be the name of the article instead of French Guiana. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.26.196.114 (talk) 07:19, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

someone thought[edit]

I thought that Greenland was considered part of America, and thus the largest area outside Europe that is member of the European Union (since it is part of Denmark and Denmark is participating in the European Union).

Except that Greenland is not part of the EU. See the article Greenland. Morwen 10:54, Jan 26, 2004 (UTC)
That's what I recall as well, but I cannot find it mentioned in the Greenland article. There it only says that Greenland has a large degree of autonomy from Denmark, but does not mention the EU at all. andy 10:57, 26 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Quote from Enlargement_of_the_European_Union wiki article:

The Danish dependency Greenland was an integral part of Denmark when the country joined in 1973. In 1979 Greenland was granted home rule and following a local referendum it left the European Community, on February 1, 1985. The EC was the predecessor of the European Union and Greenland is unique as an example of a territory having left the organization. Greenland is unlikely to ever rejoin as it becomes increasingly independent, leading to closer integration with its geographical North American neighbours.

--83.134.91.216 15:28, 5 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Precisely! Also worth noting is that in the 1973 referendum on joining the EEC, Greenlandic voters voted against joining, which was the reason why a new one was held after internal autonomy was achieved. //Big Adamsky 04:29, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

Improvement Drive[edit]

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End the euphemism![edit]

The article should make mention of the native american people's liberation fight against the french colonizers. It is well-known in Europe that french foreign legion mercenaries are regularly terrorizing guiana indians, who protest against the missile range which pollutes and destroys their natural habitat. It is known there were some sabotage attempts against rocketry.

The article should also make it clear that Guiana is a colony, no matter what France declares it, because of the 1960 UN decision and the natives natural right for freedom and self-determination in their own ancient land. Thus Guyana is no different from occupied palestinian territories or Puert Rico.

  • According to its institutions, Guiana is not more a French colony than would be Hawaii to the US. This is far to be the case of Puerto Rico, and even less of the occupied palestinian territories. 02:07, 10 january 2006 (CET).
Only the whites (people who came from France and EU) have institutions and rights, the native american guyanans are not represented at all, they have no citizenship, their villages were demolished to make more and more space for the missile range, they are regularly harassed by legionarries and suffer all the environmental destruction caused by rocketry. The european space programme is built upon the opression and suffering of an entire nation! Me, a Hungarian is totally ashamed over how our EU, the "humane" and "environmentally friendly" EU exports the mess of our space programme. This is just like USA in the 1950s which exported H-bomb testing and had the polinesian people suffer radiation. This shows the caucasian race still considers the colored aboriginals lesser than humans and there is no difference between yankee, britons and frenchies in race arrogance.
There should be a spaceport built on continental european soil and we the EU people should bear is internationally recognised, and should be enforced. But freeing Guiana from foreign settlers would mean expelling about 90% of the population. Anyway, there is no more, and rather less "fight for freedom" by Indians in Guiana than say in the US.
- It is the very first time I've heard of French Foreign Legion harrassing the Indians in Guiana, and I am quite surprised, since they are not stationned in the areas where most Indians live. Off course such information is bound to be much better spread in Hungary than in the racialist totalitarian state where I live, namely France.
I admit I cannot be perfectly objective, but I believe you are not perfectly informed.
Wow...ignorance really runs deep in these still waters. This guy is calling Guyana a colony ? It's obvious he knows nothing about modern-day Guyana, nor how the former colonies were run. I really wish people like this would all figure out how ignorant they are, and stop polluting wikipedia.
  • this reminds me of what i've heard about the french in vietnam.

Gringo300 10:12, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

Wow, never seen so many bullshits in such a little space. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.2.30.83 (talk) 12:38, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Wow Not only France is stealing other countries as also the editors here feel in the right to delete educated opinions. I did thought that we lived in a speech freedom world. Now if you prefer to keep opinions that hardly say anything relevant just because is in favor of your beloved France, just let be it. We all know to whom Guyana truly belongs. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.174.37.192 (talk) 13:55, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

i think its safe to say that if you took a poll of people in the U.S., a vast majority would be ecstatic if Puerto Rico became an independent nation...they are not occupied...nobody here wants them, they're just another drag on progress...what a farce to try to compare them to "French" Guiana or Palestine... 66.87.2.113 (talk) 02:21, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

Name, why I instead of Y?[edit]

CUZ IT FEELS LIKE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why is the name not spelled as French Guyana?

It can be spelled that way. (with the I or the Y) Swannie 19:20, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

But why the inconsistency with British Guyana? Especially puzzling since the French themselves appear to be using a "y". Appears to be more of an affectation. Ondundozonananandana (talk) 11:52, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Before indepedence it was British GUIANA. Only after indepedence did British GuIana become GuYana. So there is precident to the "I" as French Guiana isn't independent yet

99.53.171.95 (talk) 04:57, 23 February 2009 (UTC)eric

Except that the French have never used "Guiana" for this territory. It's always been "Guyane". The fact that the British called their nearby colony "British Guiana" is immaterial. 24.214.230.66 (talk) 10:15, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

"Vector for alcoholism"?[edit]

Fellow Members clube we've got ours. I'd like to introduce you to our host. He got his. And i got mine. We've got DECLINATION. I don't understand the sentence under Politics:

Illegal gold mining generates pollution, especially by mercury, and is also a vector for alcoholism and sexually-transmitted diseases.

I wasn't aware that alcoholism was communicable. Isn't that the meaning of vector? --TreyHarris 21:37, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

I removed the statement. It is ambiguous and inaccurate. Mwentwo1 15:38, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

land area[edit]

If French Guiana is considered an integral departement of France and part of the EU, as this article indicates, does that mean that its land area and population are counted into the offical land area and population of France itself? rvinall 21:40, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

Of course they are...--Stormy Ordos 12:48, 20 June 2007 (UTC)


"French" Guiana is NOT a part of france, you imperialist frauds...you give all westerners a bad name with your idiocy..66.87.2.113 (talk) 02:24, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

History Improvements?[edit]

Doesn't that history section need improvement? Teh Pampas Cat

Dead link ?[edit]

The external link to Kwata.org is broken. The site has been down for some times now. I didn't remove it, but maybe it's should be considered after some time if the site isn't back ?

I updated the population est. with 2006 figures, added an internal link to Malia Metella page and added an external link to some high quality ressources (thesis, scientific papers, reports on topics such as ethnology, linguistic, fauna, flora, environmentals issues in French Guiana.) Sergi973 00:43, 27 September 2006 (UTC)


Currency?[edit]

I noticed that this article did not state the currency of French Guiana. What is it?

Not stated for the same reason that the articles on Normandy or Paris don't state the currency. It's part of France, hence uses the euro. Vicki Rosenzweig 02:28, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

i thought it was a little strange how it didn't really describe French Guiana. Why is that??

Language?[edit]

Which one is the official language of French Guiana? and the one that is spoken the most? --201.217.81.194 01:05, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

French constitution says that the only official language of the republic is french and Guiana is a full part of the republic. French is certainly the most spoken language, but some other languages are often used : Creole, Taki-Taki, Portuguese, Dutch and amerindian languages. --PoM 09:45, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
Also some Hmong speakers. Vicki Rosenzweig 02:29, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Added language section as translated from corresponding article in French Wikipedia. Lapis (talk) 11:18, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Proposed WikiProject[edit]

In my ongoing efforts to try to include every country on the planet included in the scope of a WikiProject, I have proposed a new project on South America at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals#South America whose scope would include French Guiana. Any interested parties are more than welcome to add their names there, so we can see if there is enough interest to start such a project. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 17:12, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Last big colony[edit]

After the XX Century decolonization movement, French Guiana remained the last big mainland european colony in the world. I think the article should address that a little more, being as it is an unique characteristic. --Damifb 21:23, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Actually, French Guiana (la Guyane française) is a part of France and not a mere colony. --LordEnzo (talk) 22:41, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

...but it became a part of France through a process generally known as colonization. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.225.13.222 (talk) 21:19, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
Regardless of how French Guiana came to be a part of France, it no longer figures on the United Nations list of Non-Self-Governing Territories and as such cannot be said to be a colony. 66.130.156.84 (talk) 06:30, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
The city of Berlin just became German by the German East Colonisation, but no one would call Berlin a colony because of that —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.164.229.33 (talk) 18:58, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
It's only a part of France to get its name off the UN list. Let's face it if French Guiana wanted independence it'd get it. If Corsica or Brittny wanted independence France would never consent. If French Guiana wanted independence the French would not treat it the same as other areas.

99.53.171.95 (talk) 05:15, 23 February 2009 (UTC)eric

But, by the same logic, France would more willingly separate from Brittany than from, say, Ile de France. Where do you draw the line? Just because it is easier to chop off someone's hand than their spleen, doesn't mean that the hand is, somehow, less part of the person than the spleen.Wee Jimmy (talk) 19:00, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
Not true, France would no more allow Brittany, Corsica or any European part of France to separate than Paris. Look at Algeria, another part of "France." It was allowed independence. Bottom line if French Guiana demanded independence they'd get it. If Brittany, Paris, Corsica or any other part of France in Europe wanted independence, they would not. Thus it is NOT a true part of France. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.180.247.192 (talk) 15:39, 26 January 2012 (UTC)


I edited out a sentence which claimed that French Guyana is still a colony. Which is just isn't.

85.148.36.113 (talk) 18:33, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

French Guiana is an obvious colony, like Hong Kong, and rebranding (i.e. calling it by another name) doesn't change the situation.--MacRusgail (talk) 15:59, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

It isn't a colony even through you want to see it! It's a REGION OF FRANCE--WWay (talk) 11:01, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Vandalism[edit]

Someone wrote:

Chickens are FUNNY

At the end of the history section. Consider locking this article, seems like we are having problems here.

Someone even wrote:

Fellow Members clube we've got ours. I'd like to introduce you to our host. He got his. And i got mine. We've got DECLINATION.

Within this discussion page under the Vector for alcoholism section, which described other vandalism

Some has also moved the geography section and vandalised the first section by simply putting:

not true

i second locking this article.--NoWay555 (talk) 03:24, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

French Guiana in the Dutch Empire[edit]

Hello everyone! There is a discussion at Talk:Dutch Empire#Request For Comment: Map, because user Red4tribe has made a map of the Dutch Empire (Image:Dutch Empire 4.png) that includes significative parts of French Guiana. Would you like to comment? Thank you. The Ogre (talk) 15:21, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

New Map http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Dutch_Empire_new.PNG http://www.colonialvoyage.com/ square=tradingpost (Red4tribe (talk) 16:37, 26 April 2008 (UTC))

Still OR, POV and unsourced (yours is not not a credible source). Please discuss stuff at Talk:Dutch Empire#Request For Comment: Map. This was just a request for comment, not a discussion. Thank you. The Ogre (talk) 16:41, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

http://www.colonialvoyage.com/
http://www.colonialvoyage.com/biblioDAfrica.html (credible source) (Red4tribe (talk) 16:51, 26 April 2008 (UTC))

"Metropolitan" France?[edit]

I think you mean "homeland France". Metropolitan comes from polis, meaning city.--173.33.216.123 (talk) 13:35, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

The term has some currency: Metropolitan France 70.88.213.74 (talk) 19:14, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

What do Guianans want to do with their territory?[edit]

I'd like to see if the article could include anything about what French Guianans have ambitions for in terms of their vast, virtually empty interior. Do they have ambitions to open it up? Penetrate it with some roads and new settlements? Develop the resources, establish pockets of agriculture, exploit the resources? The people huddle along the coast, and with good reason - the coast is where the roads are, where the services and products are, where other people are. But what about making use of all that interior? Granted, probably half of it should be zoned as wilderness parkland that helps support the surrounding ecologies, but surely it could tolerate some development. GBC (talk) 06:08, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Languages section[edit]

In the languages section, it mentions "four runaway negro slave dialects". Is this vandalism?

First of all, slavery has long since been abolished, but use of the phrase implies that the Maroons are still runaway slaves. Maybe it'd be a better idea to state that they are descended from runaway slaves, rather than stating that they are runaway slaves.

Second of all, I don't know about French Guiana, but where I live (the United States), the term "negro" is no longer the preferred term, and indeed considered somewhat pejorative nowadays.

I'm not sure if that phrase is really racist vandalism, or if it's just the handiwork of an ignorant person, so I'm going to change it. Stonemason89 (talk) 12:23, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Oil in French Guiana[edit]

This site:[Oil in French Guiana] talks about oil, in this French territory.Agre22 (talk) 12:54, 12 November 2009 (UTC)agre22

Independence?[edit]

Because it is a region/department, does this mean that French Guiana can't gain independence? Flosssock1 (talk) 09:59, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

It would be better to say, "French Guiana was fully integrated into France in 1946." It is no longer, technically, a colony or a land of unrepresented peoples, having been fully annexed, so I think it would be inappropriate to speak of its possible independence. We would never entertain such a thought for Alaska or Hawaii, for example. --Golbez (talk) 11:18, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
Hmm, rather sly in a way isn't it. Bet they wished that they'd of done that with the whole of their empire... Flosssock1 (talk) 11:37, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
I'm not sure; Algeria had an equal status, and look what happened there. --Golbez (talk) 12:57, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
True, in theory American states such as Hawaii could become independent, although very unlike in the near future. Flosssock1 (talk) 16:29, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
Wrong, In the USA, short of a constitutional amendment or another civil war, once a state always a state — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.180.247.192 (talk) 15:41, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

Flag[edit]

The flag used in this article's infobox doesn't even appear in Flag of French Guiana (and there are 3 flags shown there). What gives? mgiganteus1 (talk) 13:46, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

This is an independantist flag which is used by a political party/trade union. It is by no means the official flag of either French Guyana. It has been unilaterally adopted as the departmental flag, and this has not even been recognised by the region.. Just the fact that the red in there is supposed to represent socialism shows this is a partisan flag and not a proper flag - at least at the moment. The flag of French Guiana as of every other DOM/TOM is the tricolore. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.141.87.12 (talk) 08:53, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

A few notes on the Environment section of the article[edit]

  • It'd be helpful if someone with a better understanding of French could review the document here: http://www.uicn.fr/IMG/pdf/03_UICN_2003_Biodiv_OM_-_Guyane.pdf
  • "The rainforest of Guiana has flourished despite having to contest with one of the poorest soils in the world: poor in nitrogen, in potassium and in organic matter." -- All rainforests grow in areas of poor soil, just as all coral reefs grow in waters that are low in nutrients. Both of these ecosystems are successful because they efficiently absorb and concentrate nutrients within the biomass of organisms. When rainforests are burned, the resulting ashes contain all of these nutrients. This is why slash and burn agriculture is so widely used.
  • "The hypothesis was advanced that the very existence of the rainforest is due to these intelligent human interventions of the past. " -- This is an absurd, pseudoscientific fringe theory. Rainforests have existed for hundreds of millions of years, and humans have only used agriculture for a few thousand years. The suggestion that we humans are in any way responsible for the development of rainforests is yet another manifestation of our profound arrogance and anthropocentricism.

Fuzzform (talk) 09:44, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

Country Code Top Level Domain[edit]

The ccTLD for French Guiana is .gf, so it needs to be added.