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Russian Jews?[edit]

I think the more proper term for former Soviet Jewry is "Russian-speaking Jews in Israel", combining the Ashkenazi and Mizrachi communities of the Soviet Union (Russia, Ukraine, Baltic states, Caucasus, Central Asia, etc(, the only think binding them with "Russian" is language.GreyShark (dibra) 13:12, 6 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Done (Russian-speaking Jews in Israel) Meadulnan (talk) 17:36, 17 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Bias in article needs to be addressed[edit]

I added the following commentary to the article talk page for "Russians in Israel" and I will repost my comment here for further discussion:

The vast majority of Russians in Israel are of Jewish heritage, full or partial. Many of them might be considered Jewish by the Reform and Conservative movements, but not by the Orthodox (the article briefly and blithely mentions halakha, but goes no further into any details). The very first citation in the article, quite outrageously, is a news article about Russian-Israeli neo-Nazis! This is not a neutral article, this is demonization of Russians and a quite blatantly racist division of Russian-Israelis into supposedly diametrically opposed camps: "ethnic Russians" and "Russian Jews". What exactly does "ethnic Russian" even mean in this context? Is an Israeli with a Russian-Jewish father and Russian-Christian mother an "ethnic Russian"? Is an Israeli with a Russian-Jewish mother and a Russian-Christian father an "ethnic Russian"? What if the Israeli has a Jewish maternal grandmother and three "ethnic Russian" grandparents, is he or she an "ethnic Russian"? This article is deeply marred by tendentious, racist views and needs correction. There are two separate articles for Russians in Israel, this article as well as Russian Jews in Israel. Into which article ought non-halakhic (Orthodox halakha?) Israelis of partial Russian-Jewish descent be segregated into?

I will add that the section in this article on "Mixed families" repeats the same bias, with just a single sentence about "Halakhally non-Jewish" Israelis sourced by an article about neo-Nazis. I find it deeply problematic and offensive that these articles implicitly otherize Russian-Israelis of mixed heritages and associate them with hate groups. The reference to halakha needs clarification. Halakha according to Orthodox Judaism? Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 11:04, 14 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Of course, according to Orthodox Judaism. Only Orthodox Judaism has leverage in Israel because of the Rabbinate's political power. Synotia (talk) 09:42, 20 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]