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This seems to incorrectly point out some Haredim as Sephardi when they are in fact Mizrahi. For example, Ovadia Yosef is Mizrahi and from Iraq. Should we maybe change the article's name to Sephardi and Mizrahi Haredim?--RM (Be my friend) 01:29, 28 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I'd like you to explain the difference. But let me state from the beginning that in my experience, and I live in Israel for many years, they are all called Sefaradim. Especially Ovadia Yosef, who speaks about Sefaradi-Ashkenazi all the time. Debresser (talk) 06:25, 28 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Sephardi Jews are categorized as descendants of Jews expelled from Spain in 1492, and who settled across North Africa and Southern Europe. Mizrahi Jews are the descendants of Jews who were brought to Babylon during the Babylonian captivity, and later settled throughout the Middle East and Caucasus. Non-Ashkenazi Jews may all be referred Sephardim for convenience, but they should not be officially categorized as such.--RM (Be my friend) 00:10, 30 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
This is definitely not common usage. In common usage, as you said correctly, Sefaradi includes both groups. If you can bring a very good source for what you say, we might consider changes. Debresser (talk) 09:19, 30 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
See e.g. this online dictionary, which clearly groups the two together and says that "בן עדות המזרח" is a synonym of "ספרדי". Debresser (talk) 09:23, 30 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Another argument against using "Mizrahi" is that those form Morocco or Tunisia will say they are not "eastern Jews". Today, walking out of my house, I saw a text with reference to "western Jews" (and it didn't mean Ashkenazim).
Also, please don't forget that Sefaradi is not "from Sefarad", just as Ashkenazi is not "from Ashkenaz (Germany)". Debresser (talk) 07:23, 3 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
