Talk:Thousand Parsec

Notable

Why is this notable? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.207.25.225 (talk) 20:48, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Why is this not notable? Reading through the article, it doesn't sound that much like an advertisement to me, certainly no more so or even not as much as articles like Microsoft Office or Oracle Rdb. As for having pages for all Summer of Code projects: Firstly, why not? And secondly, the project seems to predate GSoC by about three years so it's more notable than simply a GSoC project. Also I believe that the project leader has presented information on the progress and goals of the project to a number of small minicons around Australia. I don't think this should be put down for deleting, but it should be cleaned up and expanded. Rentrustic (talk) 16:23, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

It's not notable because it's an unfinished project by a small and mostly unknown team. I could find you thousands of projects deserving of time and energy across the internet, but wikipedia isn't supposed to be filled up with the dreams of indie developers. Likewise there are a myriad of quality blogs, webcomics and other projects that have been around for years and have had considerable effort put into them that just don't meet the criteria for inclusion. So again, why is this notable? Show me how it satisfies the criteria. Find coverage of it. The only links in the article are project pages and the site itself and all those are telling me is that this project hasn't borne fruit yet. It's not good enough to say "why is this not notable?", it needs to be demonstrated that it is worth inclusion. 59.167.42.39 (talk) 10:12, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

89.243.179.125 (talk) 22:20, 5 January 2009 (UTC) project seems dead, site not updated since Posted: 2008-10-19-1630

Clearly not dead, 3 news updates within the past month are plainly visible.--76.22.74.106 (talk) 04:01, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

I haven't found any coverage of the variety required by the notability guidelines (WP:N), and basic verifiability is also an issue (WP:V), so I have proposed this for deletion. Marasmusine (talk) 16:49, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

The project has been covered in a numerous times in IT Journals, both short and long form (including ITWire, zdnet, CNet, etc). It's been reported on in a number of non-English gaming magazines too. I've add some references to the page - can add more if you really need it. The verifiability page mentions that its fine to use a project's own site for information about itself. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.102.55.38 (talk) 06:39, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Hi, yes, can you provide further information on "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject" (WP:Notability). I can't find anything at zdnet or CNet ([1], [2]). The ITWire article is great for verifiability, but isn't really significant coverage of the game. Marasmusine (talk) 10:12, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

From the above notable page, Significant coverage is more than a trivial mention but it need not be the main topic of the source material. The ITWire article has a whole paragraph dedicated to just Thousand Parsec and mentions it 4 other times throughout the article - that seems more then trivial to me. ZDnet UK doesn't seem to have anything but ZDnet Asia has at least one mention - I'm 100% sure it has had more in the print version but I can't seem to find anything on the website. Can German sites count for this - I have a couple of references German IT magazines? As well I'm assuming that blogs don't satisfy the 'reliable sources' part? IE Free Gamer has some critisim of Thousand Parsec. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.39.247.241 (talk) 01:00, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

Free Gamer doesn't look like a WP:RS!

So, from ITWire, we have:

• "..That project was Thousand Parsec ; now almost seven years later I am still working on it." Thousand Parsec is a framework for turn based space empire building games."
• "His Thousand Parsec project involves working with a number of universities and high schools around the globe to get students working on FOSS projects. To date, Google accepted the project into its Summer of Code programme and three successful student projects were completed; Lee Begg, one of the co-founders, was able to develop a C++ protocol library as part of his studies; one American student is doing a year-long internship; and next year, two students from the University of SA will be working on a Thousand Parsec client for mobile phones."

And from ZD:

• "Local developer Eugene Tan, who last year contributed code to the Thousand Parsec project -- an open source framework computer game-- ..."

I need to make some further points but my two year old son is grabbing at the keyboard. Marasmusine (talk) 10:37, 13 November 2009 (UTC)