Talk:Tiridates III of Armenia

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There are quite a few doubtful points"

  1. The link to Chosrow takes you to the wrong person and 2 centuries into the future
  2. The Parthians had been gone for 40 years or so, but are still blamed for everything
  3. Trdat I ruled 'anal.'?

nl:Gebruiker:Jcwf 75.178.177.135 (talk) 01:22, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

This entry seems to mix legend with facts[edit]

One reason Trdat III of Armenia is sometimes referred to as Trdat IV is that another Trdat, perhaps the murderer of Khosrov II, seems to have ruled, firstly Western Armenia and then (after the accession of Narseh as Shah) the whole of Armenia as a Sassanid client state. The story of Gregory, as son of the murderer Anak, strikes one as being somewhat fanciful. It also doesn't explain what happened to Armenia in the period between Khosrov's murder and Trdat the Great reconquest of Armenia, with Roman support. 217.172.65.199 (talk) 21:23, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

There is the problem of two different dates given for the death of Tiridates. At the beginning of the article, it says 339. At the end, it says 330. According to Rome and Persia in Late Antiquity by Beate Dignas and Engelbert Winter, the date is c. 330. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 156.143.130.80 (talk) 09:21, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Conversion from what?[edit]

It is striking how much the Armenian editors try to hid any connections to the Iranian culture, while in the reality of the day Armenia is benefitted from Iran, the only neighbor with normal relations. My question is from which religion did Tirdad convert from? Do you say that it was not Zoroastrianism? Do you want to say that the Parthians did not have an Iranian religion, IF you call this a non-zoroastrian belief? What was it? Note that I do not intend to be unfriendly, just something that I wanted to say for a long time.--Babakexorramdin (talk) 23:44, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

Take it easy. It was from Parthian Zoroastrianism (albeit a very syncretic version local to Armenia) obviously, very different from the Orthodox one practiced by the Sassanids.-- Ευπάτωρ Talk!! 00:05, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
exactly! My problem is that why Armenians try to avoid connection to thier Iranian legacy? Those from republic of Azerbaijan use it strategically and misrepresent it. Georgians are usually sincere about it but Armenians usually try to hide it. Is it because it is a bad thing to be associated to (by now) Muslims?--Babakexorramdin (talk) 02:05, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
I'm not sure what you're talking about. We Armenians today have much more connections with ancient Parthia for example than say anyone in Iran today. Not only do we acknowledge it, we are very proud of it. How many Iranians do you know with names like Karen, Suren, Zareh, Artashes, Narek etc. ? ;) -- Ευπάτωρ Talk!! 02:25, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
You have a point in that about the names, but rarely an Armenian in diaspora speaks openly about the Iranian aspects of his Armenianness. It is my experience that they want to show westerners that they are different than their Muslim neighbors and hope to get sympathy from the traditoionally anti-Muslim westerners. But OK.--Babakexorramdin (talk) 10:51, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
Most Armenians will continue not to speak about Parthian/Iranian aspects of Armenian-ness, unless they are historians, scholars, or Armenians from Iran (like Vartan Gregorian). It's not about insecurity, though. Many are simply unaware of historic Iranian influence. It might also be because most of their traditional Muslim neighbors haven't exactly treated them with reverence or even respect. TA-ME (talk) 04:16, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
but this. The same Vartan Gregorian, has stated that the treatment of Armenians by the Shia Safavid Iran was generally benevolent--Babakexorramdin (talk) 18:19, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
Any way you are right, but in wikipedia the truth should be said. i say this also to the editors from the republic of Azerbaijan. I am unpartizan in this regard.--Babakexorramdin (talk) 10:45, 17 December 2008 (UTC)