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Fair use criteria[edit]

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Significant trimming of Former Staff section[edit]

I just cut everyone out of the alumni section that does not have their own Wikipedia page or have a reference to establish their notability. This is the current consensus procedure, based on discussions at WP:WikiProject Television Stations and at the Village Pump. The rationales are as follows:

  1. Most importantly, per WP:NOT, Wikipedia is "not an indiscriminate collection of information." As that section describes, just because something is true, doesn't necessarily mean the info belongs in Wikipedia.
  2. Secondarily, per WP:V, we cannot include information that is not verifiable and sourced. I'm not certain how it would even be possible to source this information.
  3. Per WP:BLP, we have to be especially careful about including un-sourced info about living persons.

All of the people with their own pages are notable enough to appear on this list. However, if you look at pages about companies in general, you will not find mention of previous employees, except in those cases where the employee was particularly notable. Even then, the information is not presented just as a list of info, but is incorporated into the text itself (for example, when a company's article talks about the policies a previous CEO had, or when they mention the discovery/invention of a former engineer/researcher).

I can see that someone else had already started working on this, however, they were not using the proper criteria--they were keeping anyone whose current position could be determined; however, just existing (i.e., evidence that the person is currently employed somewhere) is not sufficiently important to keep the person on the list--they still need to be notable in some way.

Some notes on specific people:

  • Amanda Davis: Though the source is not strictly reliable (as a bio page on a corporate site), if it's accurate, Davis qualifies for having won "multiple Emmys". She's almost certainly notable enough for her own page if that info can be verified.
  • Cecily Newton: Linkedin, as a social networking site, isn't reliable for anything, this list included, so I removed Newton.
  • Paul Ingles: source was a personal homepage; this is right on the borderline, as personal pages can occasionally be considered reliable info about the person themselves (see WP:SPS). I'll leave it in and let others decide.
  • Mike Thompson: Borderline--the site is not really a reliable site (another company bio), but it does assert some things that might be considered notable (like being in the "National Academy of Television Arts & Sciences Silver Circle"). I'll leave it in, others can remove if you see fit.
  • Leesa Kelly: A link to a commercial site; it establishes she works there but nothing about notability. Removed.
  • Ellen Shuman: Link is to her company, it's promotional, and it doesn't at all establish notability. Removed.
  • Hope Hines: Another borderline case; it does assert that he won several awards, so I'll keep.
  • Karen Adams: Corporate site; borderline reliable; but it asserts she won several awards, including an Emmy, so I'll keep.
  • John McKnight: Corporate site; borderline reliable; but it asserts he won several awards, including an Emmy, so I'll keep.
  • Rick Jackson: Site is a self-published blog, so not reliable. Removed.

Everyone else had no wikipage and no reference, so they were removed.

So, names can be re-added if reliable sources are found and they show the person is notable, but otherwise must remain off of the list. Qwyrxian (talk) 05:29, 8 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This is well after the fact, but most of what you refer to as "borderline reliable corporate sites" are the Websites of the TV stations where these people now work. Those can be considered as reliable as a news story from a station's Website, since it comes from the same source. 166.205.66.62 (talk) 00:29, 17 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

[edit]

What is presented as the WPCQ logo looks like an artist created it with Anklepants, which is not an exact duplicate of the Group W font. An actual rendition of the logo can undoubtedly be found, but this isn't one. 71.75.58.160 (talk) 13:18, 16 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Halloween publicity stunt[edit]

How notable is "the record for most Halloween costume changes during a local newscast," and who besides WCNC claims that WCNC holds it? Is a publicity stunt like this worthy of inclusion in an article about the station? 71.75.58.160 (talk) 13:19, 16 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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GA Review[edit]

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Reviewer: Some Dude From North Carolina (talk · contribs) 18:53, 28 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, I'm going to be reviewing this article. Expect comments by the end of the week. Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 18:53, 28 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox and lead[edit]

  • Improve the non-free use rationale of the logo with this template.
  • Add a serial comma after "AT&T U-verse".
  • With that, the lead looks good.

History[edit]

  • Remove the comma after "(channel 3)".
  • Add a comma after "older movies".
  • Also add a comma after Tennessee.
  • "5:30pm" → "5:30 pm"
  • I don't think "preempter" is an actual word.
  • The paragraph starting with "From 1995 to 2003" needs sources.
  • "Boylan, longtime" → "Boylan, a longtime"
  • Add a serial comma after Colleen Odegaard.

Digital television[edit]

  • This section looks good.

News operation[edit]

  • Remove the comma after "fall of 1982".
  • Left this one in, as it links two separate sentences.
  • #Notable_current_on-air_staff need references.
  • Same thing for people in #Notable_former_on-air_staff.
  • Done for both. Removed one where I could not get a quality reference.

References[edit]

  • Only a few references need to be archived.
  • Having trouble getting the Internet Archive to not time out when archiving the history cards, likely because the file size is quite large on these scans. One reference appears to be straight up dead and was never archived, so I had to substitute another. Every other reference should be archived.
  • Optional, but linking websites through "|website=" is helpful for readers.

Progress[edit]

GA review
(see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose, spelling, and grammar):
    b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    a (references):
    b (citations to reliable sources):
    c (OR):
    d (copyvio and plagiarism):
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a (major aspects):
    b (focused):
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. It is stable.
    No edit wars, etc.:
  6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
    a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales):
    b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

Overall:
Pass/Fail:

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@Some Dude From North Carolina: Addressed all the raised issues. Two things I did not do: one comma that I thought belonged in the sentence and the History Cards that are just so big the Archive is balking at archiving them. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 01:34, 29 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Did you know nomination[edit]

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by MeegsC (talk) 12:15, 14 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Improved to Good Article status by Sammi Brie (talk). Self-nominated at 17:28, 29 March 2021 (UTC).[reply]


General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.
Overall: Nice work Sammi Brie. While it may be irrelevant for this hook, I was particularly intrigued at the return including interest. Looks like it's a 6% interest rate every year for 4 years, which would result in a 26.24% profit for each individual lender - which actually isn't too bad at all. Epicgenius (talk) 20:49, 29 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Wrestling[edit]

So I see there's just one generic reference to wrestling programming. For approximately two years in the early 1980s, the station hosted production of Mid-Atlantic Championship Wrestling and sister program World Wide Wrestling. This was in between the many years when production occurred at WRAL and Jim Crockett Promotions purchasing their own mobile unit and taping the programs in arenas, which began in early summer 1983. I really don't know to what extent this may have been discussed at wrestling-specific sources. RadioKAOS / Talk to me, Billy / Transmissions 19:56, 3 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I dunno if this website qualifies as a reliable source. It does provide confirmation that this arrangement received coverage by a reliable source, namely The Charlotte Observer (https://www.midatlanticwrestling.net/almanac/tv_history/tv_studios/wpcq/studio_wpcq.htm), in 1981. RadioKAOS / Talk to me, Billy / Transmissions 20:29, 3 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
But wait, there's more! The station also hosted production of the IWA television program after Eddie Einhorn withdrew his support and the company operated in the Carolinas as opposition to the Crockett promotion. I would think all this is important enough to mention. Seeing the GA and DYK banners above and seeing the lack of attention to this, I wonder if someone is actually interested in credibly covering this topic or if they're just out to collect hats. RadioKAOS / Talk to me, Billy / Transmissions 01:05, 19 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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