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The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 14:35, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

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A Hill Above the Clouds[edit]

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Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Nvvchar (talk), and Rosiestep (talk). Nominated by Rosiestep (talk) at 02:33, 17 April 2015 (UTC).

  • Note: the cover image is copyrighted and is in the article under fair use, so it can't be used for DYK – I've removed it from the nomination. 97198 (talk) 04:17, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
  • Hook is cited and interesting. Article is long enough and was created on April 15. AGF on non-English sources.--Khanate General ☪ talk project mongol conquests 08:52, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
  • Pulled from prep because "formal a well as faith-based religious beliefs" isn't what the source [1] says, even it made sense. EEng (talk) 18:40, 19 April 2015 (UTC)

@EEng: The source does say Ancient Egyptian and Indian philosophies, and other sources also mention religious masters. "Formal as well as faith-based" just needed tweaking to philosophies. I took great care in the translation for this, it's against the spirit of wikipedia to not help us fix it. Can we try again?♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:34, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

What the source says is
The author explores all possible avenues of treatment, official and alternative, and in the process describes an ultimately triumphant journey to a wide-ranging faith, embracing aspects of many philosophies, including Ancient Egyptian and Indian.
This says she explored "official and alternative" avenues of treatment and, along the way, had some kind or journey of faith (involving philosophies including Ancient Egyptian and Indian) which the source doesn't relate to the treatment. The hook mixes these two things up together as both being aspects of the attempts to save her son's life.
So yeah, it should have been pulled. Many times I'm able to fix hooks in situ, but this time I didn't feel I knew how. EEng (talk) 15:50, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
Fair enough. Can another editor take a look at this and confirm this is now OK to go again?
ALT1 ... that in A Hill Above the Clouds, Vesna Krmpotić documents the futile efforts she made to save her son's life through the ancient philosophies of Egypt and India?
♦ Dr. Blofeld 19:20, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
But ALT1 has the same problem -- it says the philosophies were part of the life-saving efforts, and that's not what the source (at least the part we're seeing) says. EEng (talk) 22:46, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
ALT2 ... that in A Hill Above the Clouds, Vesna Krmpotić documents the futile efforts she made to save her son's life from leukemia?

@EEng:♦ Dr. Blofeld 18:35, 25 April 2015 (UTC)

Or, if you still want the philosophies thing...

ALT3 ... that A Hill Above the Clouds documents Vesna Krmpotić's journey to a faith, embracing aspects of Ancient Egyptian and Indian philosophies, during her futile efforts to save her son from leukemia?

EEng (talk) 00:07, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

Good to go with ALT 3. The article is long enough, the hook is interesting, and is cited in the text. Meets the requirements. --Krimuk|90 (talk) 01:34, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

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