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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Montanabw(talk) 04:20, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

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Beda people[edit]

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5x expanded by Sitush (talk). Self nominated at 09:57, 20 December 2014 (UTC).

  • Put this on hold for now. It is 5x expanded but nowhere near 1500 words. That should happen before the seven days are up. Sorry for misunderstanding the criteria. - Sitush (talk) 13:56, 20 December 2014 (UTC)
Sitush, the requirement is "at least 1,500 characters". 3766 B. 5x on 19-Dec. But neutrality might be an issue with Beda. While the article correctly says "the practices of social exclusion, submission to superiors and suchlike are not as rigid as can be found in other caste societies", the article needs to acknowledge there is differentiation, eg. Mann says that higher class groups do not enter the houses of the Beda. Redtigerxyz Talk 16:26, 20 December 2014 (UTC)
I am useless today, sorry: I've been making stupid typo errors and all sorts. I'm trying to work my way through the untouchability issues and, yes, Mann throws a spanner in the works. It is a bit confusing because on the one hand Gutschow says that they are untouchable and on the other Mann (2002) says that "untouchability and some other caste prejudices are still missing". He also says that "entry into each other's house is again not prohibited" (p. 48) and that "there is no customarily proposed taboo for entry into houses belonging to any group (p. 38), but acknowledges that some people are uncomfortable about it. Plenty of time yet: I really think I may have jumped the gun here with the hook, although I had read the sources beforehand and have some more to go at yet. Sitush (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 16:51, 20 December 2014‎ (UTC)
  • Comment: QPQ is needed. --Gfosankar (talk) 05:04, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
  • Sitush, it has been four weeks, and you have not posted here that anything above has been addressed, nor have you supplied a QPQ review. You need to post here now to continue the review process. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 22:16, 17 January 2015 (UTC)
  • I am in hospital, sorry. Not in a fit state to concentrate etc due to painkillers. If someone wants to take this on then please do. - Sitush (talk) 11:41, 18 January 2015 (UTC)
Trying: if the hook is supported by some sources but not others, - can we find a different, less difficult one, because it's tricky to say that in the 200 chars allowed? I would be interested in their main occupation music, playing for food, - for example. Article: I would like a bit of what comes last - the term Scheduled Tribe and how few people - in the lead. Most important: wishes for recovery, Sitush, gute Besserung, as we say, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:50, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
Having seen a response by Sitush, he seems not to interested, I suggest - instead of "letting it die" - to shorten to
ALT1: ... that the Beda people of Jammu and Kashmir are considered an untouchable group?
Interesting enough, I approve that, - other eyes welcome, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:51, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
I'll see if I can help. For a serious ALT2 ... that the Beda people are the smallest officially recognised tribe in Jammu and Kashmir? For a humorous ALT3 ... that the Beda people will play music for food? (if you can make the mental leap to compare the Beda people with buskers on the London Underground)? Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 12:26, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
Both fine and sourced, let prep builder decide, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:40, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
Prep builder's comment: Promoted with Alt2 as best compromise. Montanabw(talk) 04:20, 31 January 2015 (UTC)
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