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Proposal: Allow for links to simulations and models under "Links to be Considered"[edit]

I propose the addition of the following under Links to be Considered:

"Links to interactive website pages containing relevant quality simulations or models of article material or phenomenon."

See, for instance, Monty_Hall_problem#External_links where simulations are of considerable use and are included under External links.

Currently there is no explicit statement that such links are allowed. Cannot you imagine that such links can be relevant and wrong to exclude?

I would like to get some consensus on this. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Reidme (talkcontribs) 20:35, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

I suggest that you post a note about the discussion on that article's talk page at WP:ELN. WhatamIdoing (talk) 23:55, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
There is no reason to modify this guideline for the example given. Per WP:ELYES some pages can normally be linked, and if a discussion establishes that a simulation assists the encyclopedic understanding of the topic, then a link is appropriate. That's if the link is helpful—articles do not link to every page that some readers might find useful. Johnuniq (talk) 09:20, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
no reason to add this specific type WP:CREEP ( particularly at the request of an SPA determined to get their particular link added). There are "simulators" for lots and lots of topics but very few where a "simulator" would generally be encyclopedicly helpful for a reader to understand the subject. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 20:34, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

In-text external links[edit]

This article should say that in-text external links should generally be avoided. This is referred to obliquely in WP:ELOFFICIAL ("Official links are still subject to standard formatting requirements, such as ... not placing links in the text of the article."), but the rule isn't expressly stated here for all links. The rule can actually already be found at WP:MOS#External links, but it should be repeated here.

Also, the rule is broken frequently enough that I believe it deserves its own shortcut, e.g. WP:ELINTEXT

--Dr. Fleischman (talk) 20:35, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

I agree and it wouldn't hurt to link "formatting requirements" to WP:MOS#External links also.- MrX 22:14, 5 December 2014 (UTC)
Wikipedia:External links#How to link might be a better link for formatting requirements.
The rule about not (normally) putting external links in the text of an article is in the very first sentence of the entire guideline, and it is repeated under WP:ELPOINTS #2. WhatamIdoing (talk) 22:49, 5 December 2014 (UTC)
Ah, I missed WP:ELPOINTS. Thank you. --Dr. Fleischman (talk) 03:36, 9 December 2014 (UTC)

Linking to images on external websites[edit]

Greetings! I ran into the most peculiar problem at Cao_Đài. First, the user added plenty of images on the article that were later removed by Filedelinkerbot for various reasons. Now, the user is trying to go around the problem by linking to images on external websites in the middle of the text[1]. I removed the links and advised her/him to try to find decent images from Wikimedia Commons, but (s)he reinserted the external links to the article.

Therefore, I'd like to suggest about adding the following to Wikipedia:External links#Links normally to be avoided: "Links to images on external websites" Jayaguru-Shishya (talk) 19:44, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

There is no need for a change: WP:EL has "External links should not normally be used in the body of an article" and WP:MOS#External links has similar. I added the article to my watchlist although I might miss activity there. Just raise the issue at WP:ELN if a problem. Johnuniq (talk) 23:10, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
{{External media}} is the usual template for adding links to images, and it is sometimes (if justifiable) used in the body of the article. I prefer having it used only in the ==External links== section myself, but there are a few circumstances in which it is not unreasonable to provide the link in a more relevant location. WhatamIdoing (talk) 04:20, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
Thanks Johnuniq and WhatamIdoing. Johnuniq, I agree. I actually gave a similar response to the editor.
I can forward that info to the user, WhatamIdoing. Hopefully he/she will find that useful! Cheers! Jayaguru-Shishya (talk) 20:01, 9 December 2014 (UTC)

Amazon link to buy book[edit]

I guess providing a link to buy a book on amazon in the external links is prohibited? Tremello (talk) 09:51, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

Yep (or to any other bookstore that is selling the books, and whereever in the article). We have the internal 'linkfarm' for ISBN for linking to books, so people can find where they can obtain a real copy. Linking to the previews can sometimes be suitable, but that is generally in references anyway. --Dirk Beetstra T C 10:49, 12 December 2014 (UTC)