User talk:Fences and windows

Adminship (again)

Hello Fences and windows

I still think you'd make an excellent administrator, and I would like to repeat my offer to nominate you for that position.—S Marshall ^Talk/_Cont 21:34, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Hi, it has been a few months hasn't it. I've been thinking about whether to go for adminship, and I'm more familiar with the ins and outs of policy. I'm happy to be nominated. I'll probably need a little time to prepare. Fences&Windows 22:52, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Please let me know on my talk page when you wish me to go ahead, then.—S Marshall ^Talk/_Cont 23:10, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

And if you'd like a co-nominator ... Black Kite 11:06, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

I'm giving Wikipedia:Administrators a good read, won't be long. Fences&Windows 21:26, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Fences and windows. Take your time answering the questions, this is not a good area for rushing.—S Marshall ^Talk/_Cont 18:21, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Ready for the transclusion? No rush if not.—S Marshall ^Talk/_Cont 20:22, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

This is no drill.  ;)—S Marshall ^Talk/_Cont 20:28, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

<--Good luck! cheers. -SpacemanSpiff 20:31, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Gah, you're supposed to sign to indicate acceptance of the nomination!—S Marshall ^Talk/_Cont 20:42, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Oh yes. I didn't drink enough coffee today, it seems. Fences&Windows 20:56, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Good deal - you're nearly at 100, with barely an oppose. That's a lot of community trust! :) BOZ (talk) 14:04, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

MedCabal Case

Hello! My name is Reubzz and I have opened up this mediation cabal case that lists you as a party. Please indicate your acceptance of the mediation process on my talk page and on the case page so we can move quickly towards discussion and resolution of the dispute. The proceedings cannot start unless ALL parties agree to accept the mediation process.

Cheers! Reubzz (talk) 14:26, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

6/9 parties have indicated acceptance to proceed. Please indicate your acceptance or rejection here: MedCab Case here - indicate acceptance or rejection of mediation process

Cheers! Reubzz (talk) 20:18, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Oscar

Technocrane what about a merge with Crane shot ? Off2riorob (talk) 21:42, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

I don't know. It's certainly not the only crane camera set-up, nor the only apparently notable one. The Louma Camera Crane also won an Oscar at the same time and an Emmy in 1990. Fences&Windows 21:52, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

OK, I can see the value of a stand alone article, lets see how it develops. Off2riorob (talk) 21:58, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Mediation Notice

This is a notice to inform all parties in the MedCabal case involving the article Race and Intelligence, that the deadline for any final comments in this introductory stage of mediation is due within the next 24 hours. At the end of this timeframe, the Mediators will seek page protection for 48 hours to review the entire case and prepare a schedule of issues to discuss to proceed forward. Thank You for your cooperation and acting in good faith to pursue a conclusion to this dispute. Cheers! --Reubzz (talk) 02:23, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

charge of bad faith

You have made a charge against me in the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Notability (events) that I am assuming bad faith in what I said there. I am assuming good faith in that you are trying to write a usable guideline. I however, think you have made many errors in it. How is that assuming bad faith? DGG ( talk ) 15:40, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

"I consider this an example of use of ambiguous phrases and weasel words to evade (or possibly bias) the issues." This statement sounds like you consider that the writers of the proposal are deliberately evading issues and biasing it to suit their own agendas, but I shouldn't have used to phrase "assuming bad faith", I should have just explained why I disagreed with your statement. Your pointing out of errors and loose wording is much appreciated, I don't think I or any of the other contributors were under the impression that the proposal was ideal. Fences&Windows 15:54, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

As I have just commented there, I think the idea of using such a proposal instead of WP NOT has considerable merit, and I like the recent suggestion of DustFormsWords as a new approach, though it doesnt cover everything.Theresponses to my qys indicate that the ambiguous words do indeed bias the issues--for example, that the wording "some" newspapers can be seen to exclude them all. If I comment on this further, it will be there or at the RfA. DGG ( talk ) 17:14, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Away

I won't be on Wikipedia again till Sunday. Fences&Windows 15:54, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Your RfA…

…has demonstrated that the community feels that you are able to use the wikipedia maintenance tools to help the project, congratulations! If you have not already, please take a look at Wikipedia:Advice for new administrators, Wikipedia:Administrators' how-to guide, and similar pages, and feel free to ask any one of us for advice. Congratulations again. -- Avi (talk) 21:23, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

RfA success!

Congratulations on having your RfA passed! Now get out your flamethrower and work! work! work! :-) — Oli ^OR Pyfan! 21:16, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

They don't hand out flamethrowers for..like..years now. The best you can get is a mop drenched in some petroleum and a lighter.

Oh, congrats btw, if you need help with your new mop, feel free to bug me. ;-) Regards SoWhy 21:38, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Stupid Global Financial Crisis! It's closing down all the flamethrower manufacturers! — Oli ^OR Pyfan! 09:17, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Congratulations! Another excellent admin to add to the group! Frmatt (talk) 21:19, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Woohoo! :)—S Marshall ^Talk/_Cont 21:32, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Best wishes and congrats! Majoreditor (talk) 21:37, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Congrats and enjoy using your new mop! -SpacemanSpiff 21:53, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Congrats! The thing that should not be 21:57, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Welcome to hell. Tan | 39 22:11, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks everyone. I hope I'll fulfil the trust placed in me, and I'll take things slowly! Fences&Windows 22:17, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Congratulations, I'm really glad your RfA passed. Aside from your awesome credentials, it also means I'm no longer the most junior admin on Wikipedia. :) -- Atama頭 22:33, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Congratulations on earning the tools. I'm sure you'll make good use of them. Robofish (talk) 22:40, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Now you get to do all those cool adminny things like blocking each other and yourselves and deleting the main page - on the downside there's probably a bit of work involved too. Congratulations.   pablo_hablo. 22:53, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

WP:BEANS. Don't give me ideas. Fences&Windows 23:03, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Well done, I think that was fairly conclusive :) Black Kite 23:07, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Congratulations! Location (talk) 23:17, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Congratulations and well deserved! --AFriedman (talk) 02:23, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Congrats! And good luck with the tools. Timmeh 03:05, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Well done! I know you'll be a great asset! GedUK  08:30, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Congrats on your successful RfA! Now that you have the tools I'll let you in on an admin secret, sort of akin to the Konami Code. Here's what you do: delete your user page, then undelete, then delete again, then undelete, then protect your talk page, then unprotect, then block an anonymous vandal for 24 hours based on an AIV report, then close an AfD as "no consensus" with a 37-word rationale (be sure not to use hyphens). After completing this series of actions a man wearing a kilt and a cowboy hat will suddenly appear out of nowhere right there in front of you and offer you a giant steaming mug of coffee. Whatever you do don't drink it, because the guy makes absolutely terrible coffee, and quite frankly you'll be lucky if you can convince him to just go away and leave you alone without going on and on about how much trouble he took to bring you the stuff. Look, I didn't say it was a good secret. --Bigtimepeace | talk | contribs 09:55, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Wow! Adminship certainly does have its quirks... I want my free terrible coffee! — Oli ^OR Pyfan! 10:00, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Does this guy teach me the secret handshake and give me the key to the Temple, or does that come in the mail? Fences&Windows 20:25, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Obviously that's not something we can talk about on the internet. Just remember not to drink the coffee and you'll be fine. Also when he shows up, and I can't believe I almost forgot this, be sure that you are not wearing one of those tweed jackets with elbow patches, otherwise it might get messy. And definitely DON'T start singing either. --Bigtimepeace | talk | contribs 21:43, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

If you delete the mainpage, he brings nice coffee. GedUK  13:24, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

• Congratulations. :) Crafty (talk) 19:45, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Congratulations and . December21st2012Freak ^{Happy Thanksgiving!} 02:40, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Congratulations. Here are what pass for words of wisdom from the puppy:

Remember you will always protect the wrong version. Remember you must always follow the rules, except for when you ignore them. You will always pick the wrong one to do. (See #5) Remember to assume good faith and not bite. Remember that when you are applying these principles most diligently, you are probably dealing with a troll. Use the block ability sparingly. Enjoy the insults you receive when you do block. Remember when you make these errors, someone will be more than happy to point them out to you in dazzling clarity and descriptive terminology. and finally, Remember to contact me if you ever need assistance, and I will do what I am able. KillerChihuahua?!?

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Neanderthal edits

Hi! I noticed that you baleeted some information added to the Neanderthal article based on the book mentioned on http://www.themandus.org You don't consider this theory popular or useful?--69.196.131.216 (talk) 02:17, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

It sure isn't accepted in the field, so I think inclusion would be giving it undue weight. It's basically a self-published book by an enthusiastic amateur, and it only got a little Australian press. Raise it on the talk page, other editors might view it differently to me. Fences&Windows 02:22, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, Fences and windows. You have new messages at Shadowjams's talk page.
Message added 09:28, 24 November 2009 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Congrats too. You deserve it. Shadowjams (talk) 09:28, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Happy Thanksgiving!

Happy Thanksgiving!

I just wanted to wish those Wikipedians who have been nice enough to give me a barnstar or smile at me, supportive enough to agree with me, etc., a Happy Thanksgiving! Sincerely, --A Nobody^{My talk} 19:08, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

AfD closes

I've realised I've jumped the gun by a few hours on some closes, it wasn't intentional and I'll be careful to avoid it in future. If an admin feels that slightly early closes will have biased the outcome, please reopen. Fences&Windows 17:24, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

Hello, Fences and windows. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Jeppiz (talk) 20:45, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Reply Surkhiali

Sorry for replying a bit late, was out of the town and just got back...Surkhailis are a big branch of the Swatis of Hazara division majority of them residing in the town of Baffa, if you have any doubt then you better visit a famous book called The "history of Hazara" by Dr Sher Bahadur Khan panni, further I will recommend you to see couple of books of british author as "Hazara Gazetteer", those were being written in 1887 and 1907 when pashtuns and their allies struggling for freedom against Britishers. Take care! Haider (talk) 10:19, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

WP:ANI

You marked an issue on the ANI noticeboard as resolved. I have taken the liberty of reversing that in light of emergent information. I thought you should know. Crafty (talk) 08:05, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

OK, it seemed resolved! Ah, I see it was a tangential issue, you're quite right. Is there an established policy on such privacy edits? Fences&Windows 17:23, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

I don't know. I've edited his Userpage but it might need oversight. Sorry for the late reply. :"> Crafty (talk) 19:10, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

For your interest

Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2009 November 29

Baiting?

Hello Fences, You left a message on Dapi89's page saying "We have to be civil with editors we neither like nor respect, without letting them bait us." I am curious, are you suggesting that I am baiting Dapi89? If so, could you point to exactly what I said that made you think so? Thanks, Steel2009 (talk) 01:51, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

I was referring to Dapi89's perception. Nothing more. Fences&Windows 13:21, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Dapi took your reference to his perception as support for his position and left a message on the ANI saying "As per the messaging on my page: I won't be repsonding to anymore baiting by the trouble maker." Steel2009 (talk) 16:28, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

And? This seems to have strayed somewhat from the original content disputes: as far as I can see there's no consensus to support your edits to Battle of Kursk or Blitzkrieg. I'm certainly not about to block Dapi89 as he seems to have taken the warnings to remain civil seriously for now. Also, I note your own use of the terms 'silly' and 'absurd' when editing as an IP:[1]. I'd suggest getting on with editing other articles and letting this drop: Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not about winning. Fences&Windows 17:41, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

And... you are "enabling" incivility, just my opinion of course. I wish I could share your optimism about Dapi's future behavior, time will tell. As for "12 daughters and 183 sons"... isn't that absurd? That is to say, the disparity rather than the editor. Have a good day, Steel2009 (talk) 18:42, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Thomas K. Dye AFD

Hi, I notice you've just closed this as Merge, on the grounds that "the bulk of editors support a merge". Can I point out that four editors suggested Merge... And four editors suggested Keep.

I suggest that you might want to go with 'no consensus' on this instead? I'm likely to take this to review otherwise. --Barberio (talk) 00:02, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

The arguments for keep were weak, so I gave them substantially less weight. Basically the only argument for keep was "he won an award", but it is a minor furry fandom award, not a major award. I still think my reading of the debate as favouring merge was correct, but you may open a deletion review if you wish. Fences&Windows 00:16, 2 December 2009 (UTC)