Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Templates

Use of slash in template name

Hi. Is it acceptable to have a slash in the name of a template - for example, Template:AFL/VFL Brownlow Medal winners? - Richard Cavell (talk) 12:10, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

I think that template names with slashes should be used only for internal subtemplates: e.g. the way {{citation}} uses {{citation/core}}. So, I think you should name the template differently, especially since Template:AFL exists (your template would be a subtemplate of that). Svick (talk) 12:28, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Subpages are enabled for template space, so you would be creating a subtemplate. Since {{AFL}} exists, any subpages should be used by the main template. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 13:17, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Template for Pakistan Super League

Hi, Sorry to keep disturbing you. But is it possible that you could help me create a template page. Basically there is a new cricket league in Pakistan called the Pakistan Super League. I've added the logos for most of the teams i.e. Lahore Eagles, Islamabad Leopards etc. and have provided the image licensicing as well. So basically what I want know is the use of a template I'm trying to make called Template:Cr-PSL and I'm trying to model that used by the Indian Premier League called Template:Cr-IPL. So really I need someone to help me create this template.

So what do you have to do. Well you have to get a team called from the Pakistan Super League for example Lahore Eagles and use there logo (in the team article) and place it on the Template:Cr-PSL where we're basically going to make a flag icon the Lahore Eagles let's say we are going to use the namespace "Cr-LL" or something like that to show there flagicon to help you achieve this. TO do this you might want to structure it around a this template Template:Cr-IPL can you do one example of the Lahore Eagles and show me how to do it. I will the do the rest of this icons.

Any help will be appreciated Wiki id2(talk) 11:47, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Template Duration - help, please

I need expert template help on {{Duration}}, please - the requirements are in the documentation and talk page but'll gladly answer any questions you may have. Andy Mabbett (User:Pigsonthewing); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 20:29, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

RfC on Microformats

FYI there's an RfC currently happening here that may be of interest. OrangeDog (τ • ε) 20:38, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Internationalization and refactoring of templates?

Hi all, I'm a (very) newbie to template editing stuff, and I decide to create a version of Template:compact_periodic_element for Ido wikipedia, thinking to localize everything, not merely doing the simpleminded renaming names like "Helio" for He, etc., but to actually change those things like changing "v - d - e" to reflect the initials of some Ido words, and even rename the template names themselves, like renaming Template:pad to Shablono:pado (shablono is Ido for template, by the way), for example, so an Ido user will be able to understand and edit it as such. I soon discover that I am facing quite a number of obstacles, which I shall list:

• I discover there are many, many transclusions required to support Template:compact_periodic_elements, which I may have to copy much, if not everything, over to Ido wikipedia. That means maintenance headache.
• There is no easy way to keep track of various names if I change names, so a mechanism to support finer grained association will be a help, I think. So, if the master template get changed, I would be able to see what get changed in the associated subtemplates (e.g. I have "pado" currently mapped to "pad", say, and the master template coder decides to change "pad" to "smartpad", say, then I would notice the change and take care of that pronto.)
• If a chemical element get renamed, for example, it would be nice to get notified of that and update the subtemplate. Possibly more...this escapes my mind at the moment.

I am sure you can think up of similar situation for other cases.

Anyway, I think it may be a good idea to try to factor out various concerns (see Separation of concerns for further explanation), and move some of the layout and navigation machinery away from (langcode).wikipedia.org (there are several such periodic table templates out there) and into some other area, maybe "support.wikipedia.org"...I just don't know. Another way is to set up what I call a "subtemplate" that will associate itself with a master template and supply needed data, like mapping names and links to each chemical element symbols (something real simple, like a list of maps that looks something like "Hg->Merkurio|Merkurio" (the first "Merkurio" is a link, and the second is a title) for example). Subtemplates used this way would be similar to how each wikipedia get localized. Again, I know it's more complicated, but I believe it will pay off real fast, as to create an instance out of a soup of master template and its subtemplates will give a final template and that can in turn be used to create a final presentation. I hope I'm clear enough about those issues, so, any thoughts or comments? Or maybe it is just too much to ask? TheBlueWizard (talk) 20:10, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

• To get a template and all the templates it uses from one wiki to another, you can use Special:Export on one and Special:Import on the other (importing may require you to be an administrator).
• Currently, it's impossible to use a template from another wiki, but there is a work being done on this: mw:User:Peter17/Reasonably efficient interwiki transclusion.
• You can use the English (or whatever language the original wiki uses) names at the beginning and then rename them to the other language. This way, redirects from the old names stay behind and you can use both of them. This means that you can change the pages that use those templates slowly (or not at all), and everything works the whole time. When all renaming is done, you can delete the redirects, if you want (you can check using Special:WhatLinksHere that the original name really isn't used anywhere on your wiki).

Svick (talk) 12:51, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

help string substitution

I'm trying to create a template for creating external links into a specific website which uses spaces in names. something like {{ref foocite|Hello World}} which should return http://www.foosite.com/Hello%20World.htm. I'm used to StringFunctions, so I'd use #replace, but this doesn't seem to work in wikipedia. How should I approach this? Am I missing an obvious way to use #replace? Thanks in advance.--Muhandes (talk) 18:28, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Using {{urlencode}} could work. {{urlencode:Hello world}} returns Hello+world. Simple substitution may not be enough, because other character than spaces have to be encoded. Svick (talk) 17:49, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

urlencode and anchorencode are no good, they replace spaces with + or _ and I need to replace with %20. The site is very specific, so spaces are the only thing I need to encode, I just need a way to do that. Something like what

{{#replace:Thing with space| |%20}}

would do. --Muhandes (talk) 18:09, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Merge and Move portions templates

There are various problems with these templates which I would like to correct:

• There is no opportunity to specify the talk page on which discussion should take place. This has been a nuisance with every merge/move proposal I have so far contributed to, causing extra discussions and requiring notes on all other talk pages saying "do not reply here". I suggest a discuss= parameter, for which we would need to provide a sensible default
• Some templates support section=y, others not. I would prefer to see this supported uniformly in all the templates
• Update documentation accordingly to mention all parameters, provide examples and advise about adding a discussion section to the relevant talk page

Affected templates:

• {{Merge}} · {{Merge to}} · {{Merge from}} · {{Merging}}
• {{Move portions}} · {{Move portions from}}

If there are no objections in principle to these changes, I suggest I prepare them as user space drafts and post here when I think they are ready, however I don't want to start on systematic updates like this if they are likely to be rejected.

What should be the default discussion page? I suggest the first-mentioned source page as that is where the history so far of the affected content is.

(update) not the split templates as they refer to new pages.

Comments please. — Mirokado (talk) 00:10, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

{{Merge to}} and {{Merge from}} both clearly specify the best spot: the target page's talk page. That should be the default. I think it might be good to see about combining all of the merge templates into one template, too. ···日本穣^? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 01:09, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Well this is really weird. I look again at the documentation for the merge templates and see there is already a discuss= parameter! You are also correct about the target being default. It so happens that I was looking most closely at {{Move portions}} and {{Move portions from}} earlier on, and these both direct the discussion to the page they are transcluded onto so a change is needed in {{Move portions}} for consistency. The documentation for both is less complete and needs to be updated to be similar to that for the move templates.

Now I am sensitised to the Discuss link in the box I will probably have fewer problems, however the template is often added without the creation of a talk discussion section which would provide background. A change to the documentation might improve that a bit.

The documentation for Split and friends seems in some respects clearer than for Merge and friends. Some harmonisation of the documentation for all these templates may be helpful. Since it is not protected we can improve that by normal editing.

It would be interesting to see if we can make a single template easier to use than the three separate ones... — Mirokado (talk) 02:56, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

While you're at it, following Help:Merging, the default talk destination should be [[Talk:DESTINATIONPAGE#Merger proposal]]. I propose the same for split ("Split proposal" of course). You might want to consider touching {{mergenote}} as well with the same default. Also, {{splitnote}} is missing. If you do any change, make sure Help:Merging is updated. --Muhandes (talk) 07:24, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for those suggestions. I have already added some test cases to {{Merge}} and will start making changes, with further test cases as necessary, when convenient. Mirokado (talk) 01:49, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Template names with the same misspelling

This section results from a discussion at Wikipedia talk:Categories for discussion#Category names with hyphens misused after "ly" (permanent link here). The most relevant information is near the end of the discussion, in the short message from Black Falcon at 00:30, 18 October 2010 (UTC). I am listing some templates (I counted 97) which I am mentioning for renaming, together with the target names. In these names, the expression "clean up" (verb phrase) should be "cleanup" (noun adjunct). According to http://www.onelook.com/?w=cleanup&ls=a and http://www.onelook.com/?w=clean-up&ls=a, the solid compound word "cleanup" appears to be more common than the hyphenated compound word "clean-up".

• Template:Monthly clean up category to Template:Monthly cleanup category
• Template:Monthly clean up category/Messages to Template:Monthly cleanup category/Messages
• Template:Monthly clean up category/Messages/ to Template:Monthly cleanup category/Messages/
• Template:Monthly clean up category/Messages/Accuracy disputes to Template:Monthly cleanup category/Messages/Accuracy disputes
• Template:Monthly clean up category/Messages/Article sections to be split to Template:Monthly cleanup category/Messages/Article sections to be split
• Template:Monthly clean up category/Messages/Articles containing potentially dated statements to Template:Monthly cleanup category/Messages/Articles containing potentially dated statements
• Template:Monthly clean up category/Messages/Articles lacking in-text citations to Template:Monthly cleanup category/Messages/Articles lacking in-text citations
• Template:Monthly clean up category/Messages/Articles lacking page references to Template:Monthly cleanup category/Messages/Articles lacking page references
• Template:Monthly clean up category/Messages/Articles lacking reliable references to Template:Monthly cleanup category/Messages/Articles lacking reliable references
• Template:Monthly clean up category/Messages/Articles lacking sources to Template:Monthly cleanup category/Messages/Articles lacking sources
• Template:Monthly clean up category/Messages/Articles needing additional references to Template:Monthly cleanup category/Messages/Articles needing additional references
• Template:Monthly clean up category/Messages/Articles needing expert attention to Template:Monthly cleanup category/Messages/Articles needing expert attention
• Template:Monthly clean up category/Messages/Articles needing link rot cleanup to Template:Monthly cleanup category/Messages/Articles needing link rot cleanup
• Template:Monthly clean up category/Messages/Articles needing sections to Template:Monthly cleanup category/Messages/Articles needing sections
• Template:Monthly clean up category/Messages/Articles needing the year an event occurred to Template:Monthly cleanup category/Messages/Articles needing the year an event occurred
• Template:Monthly clean up category/Messages/Articles pruned to Template:Monthly cleanup category/Messages/Articles pruned
• Template:Monthly clean up category/Messages/Articles slanted towards recent events to Template:Monthly cleanup category/Messages/Articles slanted towards recent events
• Template:Monthly clean up category/Messages/Articles sourced by IMDB to Template:Monthly cleanup category/Messages/Articles sourced by IMDB
• Template:Monthly clean up category/Messages/Articles sourced only by IMDB to Template:Monthly cleanup category/Messages/Articles sourced only by IMDB
• Template:Monthly clean up category/Messages/Articles that may be too long to Template:Monthly cleanup category/Messages/Articles that may be too long
• Template:Monthly clean up category/Messages/Articles that may contain original research to Template:Monthly cleanup category/Messages/Articles that may contain original research
• Template:Monthly clean up category/Messages/Articles that need to be wikified to Template:Monthly cleanup category/Messages/Articles that need to be wikified
• Template:Monthly clean up category/Messages/Articles that need to differentiate between fact and fiction to Template:Monthly cleanup category/Messages/Articles that need to differentiate between fact and fiction
• Template:Monthly clean up category/Messages/Articles to be expanded to Template:Monthly cleanup category/Messages/Articles to be expanded
• Template:Monthly clean up category/Messages/Articles to be merged to Template:Monthly cleanup category/Messages/Articles to be merged
• Template:Monthly clean up category/Messages/Articles to be pruned to Template:Monthly cleanup category/Messages/Articles to be pruned
• Template:Monthly clean up category/Messages/Articles with a promotional tone to Template:Monthly cleanup category/Messages/Articles with a promotional tone
• Template:Monthly clean up category/Messages/Articles with broken or outdated citations to Template:Monthly cleanup category/Messages/Articles with broken or outdated citations
• Template:Monthly clean up category/Messages/Articles with close paraphrasing to Template:Monthly cleanup category/Messages/Articles with close paraphrasing
• Template:Monthly clean up category/Messages/Articles with dead external links to Template:Monthly cleanup category/Messages/Articles with dead external links
• Template:Monthly clean up category/Messages/Articles with disputed statements to Template:Monthly cleanup category/Messages/Articles with disputed statements
• Template:Monthly clean up category/Messages/Articles with improper non-free content to Template:Monthly cleanup category/Messages/Articles with improper non-free content
• Template:Monthly clean up category/Messages/Articles with minor POV problems to Template:Monthly cleanup category/Messages/Articles with minor POV problems
• Template:Monthly clean up category/Messages/Articles with peacock terms to Template:Monthly cleanup category/Messages/Articles with peacock terms
• Template:Monthly clean up category/Messages/Articles with sections that need to be turned into prose to Template:Monthly cleanup category/Messages/Articles with sections that need to be turned into prose
• Template:Monthly clean up category/Messages/Articles with specifically marked weasel-worded phrases to Template:Monthly cleanup category/Messages/Articles with specifically marked weasel-worded phrases
• Template:Monthly clean up category/Messages/Articles with topics of unclear notability to Template:Monthly cleanup category/Messages/Articles with topics of unclear notability
• Template:Monthly clean up category/Messages/Articles with trivia sections to Template:Monthly cleanup category/Messages/Articles with trivia sections
• Template:Monthly clean up category/Messages/Articles with unsourced statements to Template:Monthly cleanup category/Messages/Articles with unsourced statements
• Template:Monthly clean up category/Messages/Articles with weasel words to Template:Monthly cleanup category/Messages/Articles with weasel words
• Template:Monthly clean up category/Messages/Attempted de-orphan to Template:Monthly cleanup category/Messages/Attempted de-orphan
• Template:Monthly clean up category/Messages/BLP articles lacking sources to Template:Monthly cleanup category/Messages/BLP articles lacking sources
• Template:Monthly clean up category/Messages/Categories for discussion to Template:Monthly cleanup category/Messages/Categories for discussion
• Template:Monthly clean up category/Messages/Current events to Template:Monthly cleanup category/Messages/Current events
• Template:Monthly clean up category/Messages/Dead-end pages to Template:Monthly cleanup category/Messages/Dead-end pages
• Template:Monthly clean up category/Messages/Incomplete lists to Template:Monthly cleanup category/Messages/Incomplete lists
• Template:Monthly clean up category/Messages/NPOV disputes to Template:Monthly cleanup category/Messages/NPOV disputes
• Template:Monthly clean up category/Messages/Orphaned articles to Template:Monthly cleanup category/Messages/Orphaned articles
• Template:Monthly clean up category/Messages/Recently revised to Template:Monthly cleanup category/Messages/Recently revised
• Template:Monthly clean up category/Messages/Self-contradictory articles to Template:Monthly cleanup category/Messages/Self-contradictory articles
• Template:Monthly clean up category/Messages/Statements with common sense issues to Template:Monthly cleanup category/Messages/Statements with common sense issues
• Template:Monthly clean up category/Messages/Templates deprecated to Template:Monthly cleanup category/Messages/Templates deprecated
• Template:Monthly clean up category/Messages/Type/Articles containing potentially dated statements to Template:Monthly cleanup category/Messages/Type/Articles containing potentially dated statements
• Template:Monthly clean up category/Messages/Type/Articles lacking page references to Template:Monthly cleanup category/Messages/Type/Articles lacking page references
• Template:Monthly clean up category/Messages/Type/Articles with dead external links to Template:Monthly cleanup category/Messages/Type/Articles with dead external links
• Template:Monthly clean up category/Messages/Type/BLP articles lacking sources to Template:Monthly cleanup category/Messages/Type/BLP articles lacking sources
• Template:Monthly clean up category/Messages/Type/Wikipedia references cleanup to Template:Monthly cleanup category/Messages/Type/Wikipedia references cleanup
• Template:Monthly clean up category/Messages/Uncategorized to Template:Monthly cleanup category/Messages/Uncategorized
• Template:Monthly clean up category/Messages/Uncategorized stubs to Template:Monthly cleanup category/Messages/Uncategorized stubs
• Template:Monthly clean up category/Messages/Unreferenced BLPs to Template:Monthly cleanup category/Messages/Unreferenced BLPs
• Template:Monthly clean up category/Messages/Unreviewed new articles to Template:Monthly cleanup category/Messages/Unreviewed new articles
• Template:Monthly clean up category/Messages/Unreviewed new articles created via the Article Wizard to Template:Monthly cleanup category/Messages/Unreviewed new articles created via the Article Wizard
• Template:Monthly clean up category/Messages/Use British (Oxford) English to Template:Monthly cleanup category/Messages/Use British (Oxford) English
• Template:Monthly clean up category/Messages/Use British English to Template:Monthly cleanup category/Messages/Use British English
• Template:Monthly clean up category/Messages/Use dmy dates to Template:Monthly cleanup category/Messages/Use dmy dates
• Template:Monthly clean up category/Messages/Use mdy dates to Template:Monthly cleanup category/Messages/Use mdy dates
• Template:Monthly clean up category/Messages/Use ymd dates to Template:Monthly cleanup category/Messages/Use ymd dates
• Template:Monthly clean up category/Messages/User-created public domain images to Template:Monthly cleanup category/Messages/User-created public domain images
• Template:Monthly clean up category/Messages/User-created public domain images without user-name to Template:Monthly cleanup category/Messages/User-created public domain images without user-name
• Template:Monthly clean up category/Messages/Userspace drafts to Template:Monthly cleanup category/Messages/Userspace drafts
• Template:Monthly clean up category/Messages/Userspace drafts created via the Article Wizard to Template:Monthly cleanup category/Messages/Userspace drafts created via the Article Wizard
• Template:Monthly clean up category/Messages/Wikipedia articles in need of updating to Template:Monthly cleanup category/Messages/Wikipedia articles in need of updating
• Template:Monthly clean up category/Messages/Wikipedia articles needing clarification to Template:Monthly cleanup category/Messages/Wikipedia articles needing clarification
• Template:Monthly clean up category/Messages/Wikipedia articles needing cleanup to Template:Monthly cleanup category/Messages/Wikipedia articles needing cleanup
• Template:Monthly clean up category/Messages/Wikipedia articles needing context to Template:Monthly cleanup category/Messages/Wikipedia articles needing context
• Template:Monthly clean up category/Messages/Wikipedia articles needing copy edit to Template:Monthly cleanup category/Messages/Wikipedia articles needing copy edit
• Template:Monthly clean up category/Messages/Wikipedia articles needing factual verification to Template:Monthly cleanup category/Messages/Wikipedia articles needing factual verification
• Template:Monthly clean up category/Messages/Wikipedia articles needing page number citations to Template:Monthly cleanup category/Messages/Wikipedia articles needing page number citations
• Template:Monthly clean up category/Messages/Wikipedia articles needing rewrite to Template:Monthly cleanup category/Messages/Wikipedia articles needing rewrite
• Template:Monthly clean up category/Messages/Wikipedia articles needing style editing to Template:Monthly cleanup category/Messages/Wikipedia articles needing style editing
• Template:Monthly clean up category/Messages/Wikipedia articles that are too technical to Template:Monthly cleanup category/Messages/Wikipedia articles that are too technical
• Template:Monthly clean up category/Messages/Wikipedia articles with plot summary needing attention to Template:Monthly cleanup category/Messages/Wikipedia articles with plot summary needing attention
• Template:Monthly clean up category/Messages/Wikipedia articles with possible conflicts of interest to Template:Monthly cleanup category/Messages/Wikipedia articles with possible conflicts of interest
• Template:Monthly clean up category/Messages/Wikipedia external links cleanup to Template:Monthly cleanup category/Messages/Wikipedia external links cleanup
• Template:Monthly clean up category/Messages/Wikipedia introduction cleanup to Template:Monthly cleanup category/Messages/Wikipedia introduction cleanup
• Template:Monthly clean up category/Messages/Wikipedia pages needing cleanup to Template:Monthly cleanup category/Messages/Wikipedia pages needing cleanup
• Template:Monthly clean up category/Messages/Wikipedia references cleanup to Template:Monthly cleanup category/Messages/Wikipedia references cleanup
• Template:Monthly clean up category/Messages/Wikipedia spam cleanup to Template:Monthly cleanup category/Messages/Wikipedia spam cleanup
• Template:Monthly clean up category/Type/Uncategorized to Template:Monthly cleanup category/Type/Uncategorized
• Template:Monthly clean up category/core to Template:Monthly cleanup category/core
• Template:Monthly clean up category/doc to Template:Monthly cleanup category/doc
• Template:Monthly clean up category/monthname to Template:Monthly cleanup category/monthname
• Template:Monthly clean up category/monthno to Template:Monthly cleanup category/monthno
• Template:Monthly clean up category/name part to Template:Monthly cleanup category/name part
• Template:Monthly clean up category/name part from December 2009 to Template:Monthly cleanup category/name part from December 2009
• Template:Monthly clean up category/outer core to Template:Monthly cleanup category/outer core
• Template:Monthly clean up category/to add to Template:Monthly cleanup category/to add

Incidentally, some templates seem to have meanings very similar to those of other templates, but I could be missing important subtle differences.

• "Articles needing link rot cleanup" and "Articles with dead external links"
• "Accuracy disputes" and "Articles with disputed statements" and "NPOV disputes"
• "Articles lacking page references" and "Wikipedia articles needing page number citations"
• "Articles that may be too long" and "Articles to be pruned"
• "Articles with specifically marked weasel-worded phrases" and "Articles with weasel words"
• "Wikipedia articles that are too technical" and "Wikipedia articles needing clarification"

Also, "Wikipedia articles" could be "Articles".
—Wavelength (talk) 02:04, 20 October 2010 (UTC)