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Hello, Vyeh, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like this place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

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Alpha Centauri

Per your post at WT:VG, I found some references to improve the article. I posted them on Talk:Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri at the very top of the page.

Also, myself and other editors have created a writing guide for video game articles. I believe it can give you more insight into writing a quality video game article on Wikipedia. Hope this helps. If you have any questions, please feel free to ask. (Guyinblack25 ^talk 14:46, 4 June 2010 (UTC))[reply]

Since the guide is in my userspace, no one else can delete it with out good reason. I have no intention to delete it either, though it may get moved one day into the Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games space. It should't be hard to find either way.

I'll try to get to Alien Crossfire's talk page sometime over the weekend or next week. As you may have noticed, I'm semi-retired. What that amounts to is that I do things very slowly. :-\

Glad to see the articles getting some attention. Let me know if you have any other questions. (Guyinblack25 ^talk 17:31, 4 June 2010 (UTC))[reply]

Welcome. (Guyinblack25 ^talk 04:19, 7 June 2010 (UTC))[reply]

I just added the only useful thing mentioned about Alpha Centauri in the Nov. 2000 PC Gamer — they reviewed the game in their April 1999 issue. — Twas Now ( talk • contribs • e-mail ) 12:13, 12 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like I missed the merge discussion over the weekend. :-\
Overall, the article looks to be making progress. If you'd like to look at similar game articles that are rated high-quality on Wikipedia, I recommend Age of Empires II: The Age of Kings, Empires: Dawn of the Modern World, Halo Wars, Populous: The Beginning, and StarCraft as examples to use as templates. Happy editing. (Guyinblack25 ^talk 19:27, 14 June 2010 (UTC))[reply]

Alpha Centauri / Alien Crossfire

Ooh, it was a little while ago that I edited Alien Crossfire (and possibly Alpha Cent. as well). I did mainly grammar and touchup changes, but I'd be glad to look over what you write and help polish it once you've revised the articles.Peyre (talk) 18:08, 7 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You call that an edit?

I edited that article 16 months ago just to link the page to MobyGames. What, are you copy-pasting messages to every single user that ever edited those pages? Kevin (talk) 03:51, 9 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Why contact so many people?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Vyeh

I notice you contacted dozens of people about this. Wasn't there enough feed back from editors already there? Why not contact recent contributors or whoever made large contributions? Of if its just about the external links, talk to those who added or changed them. Seems odd to contact so many people. Are you planning on working on anything but the external links section? Dream Focus 05:56, 9 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Sid Meier's articles

Hello, Video games are not my primary interest in Wikipedia. Furthermore, the only edit I ever made to either of those articles, according to this tool, was a disambiguation link fix in July 2005! Do not spam random users just because they've made one or two edits to a particular article. Graham87 03:57, 10 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Epo Said

"13:23, 11 June 2010 Vyeh (talk | contribs) (62,672 bytes) (Restored Eponymous comment which was inadvertently deleted)"

And here I thought you were just sick of hearing from me... ;) Here's to hoping SMAC can be a featured article! Eponymous (talk) 13:26, 11 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've been making tiny tweaks to the language on SMAC -- I'm a fiddler and a polisher after others do the heavy lifting for the most part. Let me know if there are any specific areas where you want to see a little extra linguistic lacquer, in this article or others you are working on -- I'm pretty comfortable working with you on that level. Cheers! Eponymous (fnord) 16:49, 29 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

References

RE:What is the process for promoting an article from Start Class to C Class?

Guidelines for assessments are located at Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Assessment. To have the article reassed, you can put in a request at Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Assessment/Requests. In response to a request, an assessor will review the article and generally post notes about their decision on the talk page. If the article meets certain certain quality criteria, then notes may be sparse or unnecessary.

In regard to suggestions to improve the article:

I recommend fleshing out the "Reception" section first. I recommend checking other sources listed at Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Sources. These are considered reliable for video game articles. Find whatever reviews you can and paraphrase the writer's comments with proper attribution: writer's name, publication, and citation.
- "[NAME] of [PUBLICATION] praised the graphical detail.^[#]"
Once that's done, the "Development" section needs work. The process is similar to the reception section. Though instead of a writer's opinion, you're looking for news pertaining to production details: inspirations, processes, deadlines, time frames, etc. And again, the content should be properly attributed with citations:
- "[DEVELOPER] spent X years/months developing the game.^[#]"
The "Gameplay" section is too detailed. Trim it down to the bare essentials. Just keep in mind that the reader doesn't need to know how to play the game to understand how it works.
Remove unsourced statements and original research. Just keep Wikipedia:Verifiability in mind. Readers have to be able to verify content. Simple statements like "Alpha Centauri is a video game" do not need sourcing because this is very easily verifiable. But others like "Chiron is an homage to James P. Hogan's 1982 space opera novel Voyage from Yesteryear..." are very specific and require a citation to a reliable source.
Organization would be good to reduce excess sub-headings. Some sections can be combined into other sections to reduce undue-weight and give better context.
- Factions → Stoyline or Gameplay
- Fiction and Modification → Legacy
- Availability → Development
- Expansion → Legacy or Development depending on the content

Hope it helps, let me know if you have any other questions. (Guyinblack25 ^talk 16:39, 21 June 2010 (UTC))[reply]

I gave the article a quick sweep and it has greatly improved. I'll try to give the article a copy edit sometime this week. Once all the work is done, it might have a chance to reach Good article. Keep up the good work. (Guyinblack25 ^talk 21:19, 29 June 2010 (UTC))[reply]

If you're still working on the article, then I'll wait until you're done.

A few quick suggestions:

I think you'll be fine without citations in the lead. The rest of the article that is cited will be able to back it up.
Gameplay is probably too bare bones.
I'd combine short paragraphs to make larger ones. 1–2 sentence paragraphs are too short to stand on their own.

The article is really improving. Keep it up. (Guyinblack25 ^talk 20:40, 1 July 2010 (UTC))[reply]

Just letting you know that I have not forgotten your request. Some project discussions and a GAN sidetracked me this past week. I'll look at the article as soon as I can. (Guyinblack25 ^talk 17:58, 12 July 2010 (UTC))[reply]

There are a couple places to get outside comments

Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Assessment/Requests will provide brief comments to improve
Peer reviews are meant for more in-depth comments
- Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Peer review is for comments from VG editors, but has seen less participation lately
- Wikipedia:Peer review is meant for a more general audience that our project's, but it also has limited participation

I'll still give the article a copy edit, I'll just be going at a slower pace. Once it's done, I think the article will do well at WP:GAN (Guyinblack25 ^talk 16:43, 6 December 2010 (UTC))[reply]

Just chiming in to let you know that I haven't forgotten about the article. Would you mind refreshing me what sections need copy editing? (Guyinblack25 ^talk 22:55, 13 January 2011 (UTC))[reply]

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Edge 165

Yep, one and the same. - X201 (talk) 17:46, 9 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Good article processes

As you're already aware, "GA" on Wikipedia typically refers to a "Good article". To obtain this quality rating, an article must be nominated at WP:Good article nominations, or GAN, where it is reviewed by an uninvolved editor. Given the backlog on the page, nominations can sometimes sit for a while until a reviewer comes along. The reviewer compares the article to the Good article criteria and will either pass or fail the nomination. Should an article degrade over time or the passed nomination is contentious, editors can place the article up for reassessment at WP:Good article reassessment, or GAR. Depending on the reassessment discussion, the article will either retain or lose its GA status. To further add more to digest, there are also Good topics, which are collections of Good articles that are within the same scope.

You'll see these terms pretty regularly at the VG project because many editors there try to bring articles up to Good quality, partly as a badge of honor, but also because review by an outside party ensures that quality is actually there. Hope that explains everything. If you have anymore questions, please let me know. (Guyinblack25 ^talk 19:24, 12 July 2010 (UTC))[reply]

Re: Italics

Couldn't find it in the MOS, but things like Civilization's is just proper English- the title of the game is always italicized, but the "'s" isn't. If it looks strange to you, just change up the sentence structure- "Alpha Centauri uses a modified Civilization II's game engine." becomes "Alpha Centauri uses a modified version of the game engine from Civilization II. Also, the reason I said it was the sequel to the series, not the first game, was because it was sort of the sequel to both Civ1 and Civ2. That said, you're the one editing the article, so if you think it's just the "sequel" to Civ2 as it uses that engine and came out after it, go right ahead, it's your call. Good job on the article so far, I'm enjoying the improvements to it as I love that game. --Pres N 15:19, 31 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Clarification

You state here that in the archive link I gave, I came across as looking worse than the person I reported to WQA because I raised the issue of Cailil's prior history with me. I would like to confirm that you read my statements on that matter, and disagree with me that Cailil's prior and new actions warranted my mentioning the prior history. Thank you. Blackworm (talk) 01:44, 3 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Talk:Bob Day confusing post

Please proofread your last post at Talk:Bob Day. Something has made it look very odd. HiLo48 (talk) 21:05, 17 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Block Appeal

Your request to be unblocked has been granted for the following reason(s):

That's a solid range block, so I've applied to IPEXEMPT flag to this account.

Request handled by: Kuru (talk)

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This appears to now be

Done. -- Cirt (talk) 15:25, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. Sorry for the email messages. Vyeh (talk) 11:48, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome back!

...and I removed the external link you asked me to get. Nolelover^{It's football season!} 21:22, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Although finding out I had been blocked for six months by a bot was not very welcoming! Vyeh (talk) 11:50, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

=D Nolelover^{It's football season!} 17:11, 26 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox merge

Sorry for the haste, but the other options were absolutely ridiculous! Do you mind putting the last touches on it? Nolelover^{It's football season!} 16:09, 7 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I may not get to it till the weekend. Vyeh (talk) 18:32, 8 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Merry Christmas (and other assorted holidays)!

Nolelover^{It's football season!} wishes you a Merry Christmas and a happy New Year! May this be a time of peace, joy and goodwill towards men.

Spread the holiday cheer by adding {{subst:Wikipedia:CONTRIB/Holidays/Christmas1}} to your friends' talk pages.

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+Just chiming in to let you know that I haven't forgotten about the article. Would you mind refreshing me what sections need copy editing? ([[User:Guyinblack25|Guyinblack25]] <sup>[[User talk:Guyinblack25|talk]]</sup> 22:55, 13 January 2011 (UTC))
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