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This project is launched to make articles related to Protected areas of India an Featured. Pls. join this project. Amartyabag (Talk) 10:40, 22 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Collaboration style and topics

Since there are only 4 of us at present, we should probably have a collaboration of the month - and informally or formally decide on one topic from the candidates. ray 22:41, 23 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

As per ray's comments in the talk page for Collaboration of the Month. Let us select any well known NP which is stub and can expand it. I would suggest to go for Kaziranga National Park which is stub but is well known. Amartyabag (Talk) 10:07, 24 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I would second Kaziranga. Let us have it as the collaboration of the month for February. What do the others think ? As for the remaining days of January, lets clean up the Indian PA category entries. They are in a mess. ray 16:59, 26 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, let's have Kaziranga as the collaborative effort for February, 2007. Hope some of you guys have good resources so that the article can be improved :) Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 18:09, 27 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Good, I think this is a consensus. I have also destubbed or created most of the blanket articles, and some additional ones on Forest Department terms we may need. Category sorting is left, as are issues of userboxes, user categories, logos, and stub templates. If we can get these done by Jan 31, we can start off the Wikiproject properly in Feb. By the way, I am now going to vanish for some time and resurface a few days later. ray 01:55, 28 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Some suggestions for improvement

Use of Hindi in PAs: I think there is no justification of using Hindi in all PAs except in the areas where hindi is the popular local language. If we continue following this norm then all Wikipedia article related to India should have hindi name, which I think is highly debatable. Remove the use of hindi language policy. I am strictly not against any language.

Agreed. Having Hindi everywhere might not serve much purpose, I will change the Hindi part in the directives ray 16:53, 26 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Solved as steps taken by ray. Amartyabag ^TALK2ME 11:32, 17 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

New Userbox and user category related to Indian PA should be created

Hmm . The standard have a global PA infobox, which looks sufficient. Only a few countries have their own PA infobox, typically due to additional info which cant be accomodated by the original infobox (like website url for australia). A user category would definitely help, though ! ray 16:53, 26 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I mean Userbox and user category for this Wikiproject. Amartyabag (Talk) 11:14, 27 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Created Amartyabag ^TALK2ME 11:32, 17 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wikiproject message and Indian PA stub should be created. Preferrably with some comination of green.

Yes, definitely these need to be done. Amartya can you do it? I am a bit short of time these days. ray 16:53, 26 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Created Amartyabag ^TALK2ME 11:32, 17 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

New image or logo of this Wikiproject might have the map of India with PA written on the map boldly in green. Amartyabag (Talk) 14:34, 24 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Good idea. ray 16:53, 26 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Created Amartyabag ^TALK2ME 11:32, 17 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ulterior Motives

Reasons for working on this topic are:

Concern about recent human intrusion into this wilderness area, especially illegal forest clearing and agricultural cultivation.
Concern about the resulting reduction or extinction of the high proportion of endemic species of flora and fauna in these unique South Western Ghats montane rain forests.
Concern about degradation of the culture and habitat of the native nomadic Palayan tribes people who have lived in the caves of this area for millenniums.
To stimulate awareness and action to reverse the above intrusion and degradation, including stepped up enforcement of existing Environmental policy of the Government of India. Marcus334 19:34, 24 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Legislation from Official website of: Government of India, Ministry of Environment & Forests

“Legislations on Environment, Forests, and Wildlife” from the Official website of: Government of India, Ministry of Environment & Forests

The Wildlife Protection Act, 1972 (Non Government)

Atulsnischal 07:59, 29 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Best wishes for this Project and thankyou all for your efforts from Atul

Invitation for Wikipedia:WikiProject Protected areas of India

Thanks. Would you be interested in the newly formed Wikipedia:WikiProject Protected areas of India ?

Cheers. ray 04:27, 29 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Invitation for Group for discussion group

You may be interested in joining the group for discussions leading to article improvement on wikipedia in the area of Indian biodiversity. Shyamal 07:00, 29 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

reply

Thanks Ray and Shyamal for inviting me, I will love to contribute much more to Wikipedia on India’s Natural Heritage and Wildlife etc. which are interests close to my heart but I am still not so good in keyboarding, that makes me really very slow. I really admire the work on Wikipedia that anybody can access easily, especially the growing work on wildlife and conservation in India that you all are generating. I am glad you all have got together for Wikipedia:WikiProject Protected areas of India and am sure overtime coordinated effort by members will improve the coverage systematically. I feel very happy that in the long-term this material will be easily available to younger generation, school kids and budding naturalists not only of our region but worldwide spurring their love and respect for environment as a whole.

I really admire your efforts and enjoy your work.

Atul Singh Nischal Atulsnischal (talk · contribs)

Atulsnischal 02:14, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Great Website of an Indian Zoo

Zoos in India dont have websites of their own yet, but this is a great example that stands out:

Located in: Chandaka forest ???

Atulsnischal 03:30, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Noticed another website of an Indian Zoo:

Atulsnischal 04:06, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Kaziranga NP - Collaboration of the Month (February 2007)

The article is presently a stub.

What it has

An infobox (incomplete)
A history of the protected status of the park (needs verification and a reference)
Brief one liners on the
- Flora
- Fauna
Park information (incomplete)

Some sources

Kaziranga at the Google News Archive - link
Useful books on Rhino conservation - link link

Children's lit on Kaziranga link

A map to get our bearings, not usable for WP link

Official UN document (for data and citations) link

UNESCO WHS page link

Some census data link

Commercial website link

Details on a website I usually deem v accurate link

WTI reports on projects, etc link, Newsfeeds link

The closest thing to an official website link, the 100 yr celebration website doesnt work

Flickr commercial photos tagged kaziranga link

Wikimedia cat link

The sat photo is terrific, but we need a US gov photo link

PAI Tool Box: Concensus needed

If we reach concensus on User box, Message box and Info box should they be in Wikipedia:WikiProject India Tools or add (section)==Tools== on Project page?
---Marcus 00:21, 2 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox/Map

Blank Protected areas of India/Infobox for use in Protected areas of India Articles.

User category

You may list yourself in the Category:Participants in WikiProject Protected areas of India by adding the following to your userpage. [[Category:Participants in WikiProject Protected areas of India| {{subst:PAGENAME}}]]

Stub notice

You may use {{India-protected-area-stub}} for any Indian protected area stubs that you write or come across. This will automatically put the article in Category:Indian protected area stubs.

This article about protected areas of India is a stub. You can help Wikipedia by expanding it.

User box

You can also add the {{User WINDPA}} user box to your userpage. Inclusion of the userbox will automatically add you to the user category.

This user is a member of WikiProject
Protected areas of India.

The template is made with default Wiki templates on Userbox. I think there is no reason to resize. Amartyabag ^TALK2ME 11:25, 2 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

However, please also manually add your name to the project's list of participants.

This user is a member of WikiProject
Protected areas of India.

User:Marcus334|Marcus]] 22:27, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Message box

Template:Messagebox protected areas of India similiar to:

Protected areas Project‑class

	This page is part of WikiProject Protected areas, a WikiProject related to national parks and other protected natural or ecological areas worldwide.Protected areasWikipedia:WikiProject Protected areasTemplate:WikiProject Protected areasProtected areas articles
Project	This page does not require a rating on Wikipedia's content assessment scale.

It needs group consensus and editing by a WikiBoxGuru--Marcus 00:21, 2 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Nice templates but I do not think in India, buildings are referred as PA. So no need to add photo of Taj, instead use the the Indian PA image on one side.Amartyabag ^TALK2ME 11:25, 2 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Ok the templates now looks better. But can we get a photo with some wild animal with a beautiful scenery as background. The current picture of mt. kanchenjunga seems that this project is of a mountain. Amartyabag ^TALK2ME 11:27, 3 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Replaced Image:Kangchenjunga.JPG. Realistic forest habitat: can't see tiger face clearly. Someone else pitch in here.--Marcus 06:17, 4 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Done and added to the WP:IND banner. Amartyabag ^TALK2ME 11:34, 17 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Email group- Wikipedians for Indian Nature

This is an additional forum which has many Wikipedia supporters who may not be very WikiSavvy. All are welcome to: group:|Wikipedians for Indian Naturefor discussions leading to article improvement on Wikipedia in the area of Nature in India. Shyamal 07:04, 29 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Infantile "Hindi" Wikipedia

Atulsnischal 07:45, 5 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

WT:INB

Wikipedia talk: "Notice board for India-related topics"

Please make use of this notice board if needed (Link also included in our Taxbok).

Atulsnischal 16:23, 5 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Please help with reference for important historical fact taught in Indian School History books (when you have some time)

For Common Indian Monitor scientific page, somebody is threating to take the para out

Historical anecdote

Shivaji's general Tanaji Malusare used Shivaji’s famous pet monitor lizard which is locally known as ghorpad named "Yeshwanti" with a rope tied around its waist for climbing up the walls of the Sinhagad fort from it’s steepest and the least guarded side in the dead of a moonless night during the Battle of Sinhagad. Once he had scaled up himself after the giant lizard, up the sheer steep cliff unnoticed, he threw down rope ladders for others to climb. ^{[citation needed]}This Common Indian Monitor (Varanus bengalensis) found locally in present day Maharashtra is the species of Monitor Lizard said to have been used which is also known as ghorpad in Marathi. ^{[citation needed]}

Ghorpads are famous for their ability to cling to smooth surfaces, and were traditionally trained for this purpose by herders in the area. ^{[citation needed]}

Thanks

Atulsnischal 22:18, 3 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This is a fine piece of historic anecdote, the only problem is that it is without references from a valid reliable source. Atul provided only two references, one was to a music site article; the other being from indbazaar.com. None of these are reliable sources at all. I've requested Atul to provide a reliable source such as books from historians, but am yet to see that. There is actually no problem in having this anecdote, but we need to be careful to stuff an encylopedia with facts that are supported (so far) only by a music site article. If this is a historic fact, there must be some historic references to it. Provide that and move along, that's the wikipedia policy. Thanks. --Ragib 23:08, 3 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I noticed User:Ragib started editing the the bengal monitor page by distorting the historical anecdote of Maratha over Mugal victory first. Strange. Made it into a "persistant myth" from fact, now he wants a reference for each sentence otherwise he threatened to take the pagragraph out.

Atulsnischal 00:38, 4 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Huh? Where does "maratha vs Mughal" even come into the picture!!! You add a tidbit to an article, when asked for references provide a google cache link to a music site, and now making even more misleading claims about what I stated!! Why don't you just provide a reference for the information, from a reliable source (which is not from a google cache of a music site). Verifiability is Wikipedia's basic principle, and instead of finding hidden motives, why don't you just dig up a usable reference? Waiting for that. (I frankly don't care whatever the myth is about, but it needs to be verifiable. Thanks. --Ragib 00:47, 4 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Please continue discussion on Talk:Bengal monitor. Shyamal 02:15, 4 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Your (Atulsnischal) article Wildlife of India

Dear Atulnischal, I'm not sure what grand plan you have in mind, but copying the section on Flora and Fauna from the India page and pasting it to create a new article and then referencing it on the India page itself requires some explanation. Fowler&fowler «Talk» 23:08, 12 February 2007 (UTC) User talk:Saravask[reply]

"Wildlife of India" deserves an article in its own right, "Wildlife of India" is a popular term that people look for and search for on the internet, school kids, nature lovers and people who want to go on nature and eco-tourism trips etc. General people and younger generation looking for Info on Indian wildlife do not look for scientific and little known and boring words like Fauna or Flora or terminology like Protected areas of India etc. All this can be brought together under "Wildlife of India" article by a popular and commonly used and searched name. As per the content of this article: everybody is free to edit and add info on it.

Thanks, sincerely

Atulsnischal 23:21, 12 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wildlife of India

Kindly contribute to this article when you get time, and request others too.

Thanks

Atulsnischal 17:23, 13 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Collaboration dashboard

I have added a dashboard to the project page. It really helps with collaboration in the India project. Hope it helps here too. Regards, Ganeshk (talk) 18:58, 21 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Natural history-India emailing list

Natural history-India emailing list aids NGOs and Grassroots workers along with scientists, researchers, naturalists and nature lovers, it is India's premiere list in these aspects and on Conservation and Natural History.

Please help edit and save this article about this important Mailing List, it has come up for deletion because there are very less references on the net or I was not able to find any good ones.

Please help when you have time, improve article to save it and also vote for keeping it here:

PLEASE VOTE TO KEEP THIS ARTICLE: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Natural History of South Asia - General Discussion and Research Emailing List

Thankyou all

Atulsnischal 10:58, 3 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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 I have added a [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Protected areas of India/Dashboard|dashboard]] to the project page. It really helps with collaboration in the India project. Hope it helps here too. Regards, <font color="navy">[[User:Ganeshk|Ganeshk]] ([[User talk:Ganeshk|talk]])</font> 18:58, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
+==[[Natural history-India emailing list]]==
+[[Natural history-India emailing list]] aids NGOs and Grassroots workers along with scientists, researchers, naturalists and nature lovers, it is India's premiere list in these aspects and on Conservation and Natural History.
+Please help edit and save this article about this important Mailing List, it has come up for deletion because there are very less references on the net or I was not able to find any good ones.
+Please help when you have time, improve article to save it and also vote for keeping it here:
+PLEASE VOTE TO KEEP THIS ARTICLE:
+[[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Natural History of South Asia - General Discussion and Research Emailing List]]
+Thankyou all
+[[User:Atulsnischal|Atulsnischal]] 10:58, 3 March 2007 (UTC)