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*'''[[Homosexuality]]''' I suggest people keep an eye on the shenanigans going on there. User Tzenkai and Raul something-or-other came in about a week ago full of pomp and bluster, criticizing the writing and flashing their "credentials" while spelling on the level of slow junior high students. The former is now deleting whole sections and issuing diktats about what should be done with the article. Is this agreeable to everyone here? [[User:Haiduc|Haiduc]] 03:43, 11 July 2005 (UTC) |
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*'''[[Paraphilia]]''' over the definition of [[transvestic fetishism]] [[User:AlexR|AlexR]] 04:20, 10 July 2005 (UTC) |
*'''[[Paraphilia]]''' over the definition of [[transvestic fetishism]] [[User:AlexR|AlexR]] 04:20, 10 July 2005 (UTC) |
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*'''[[Batman]]''' Anon deletes academic discussion of history of homoerotic interpretations of Batman and Robin, and no one bothers to revert it, as though it was dirt. Here is the entry on the deletion: ''15:38, 17 Jun 2005 206.201.180.226 (Removed homosexual stuff)'' I do not want to get into a revert war with this bigot, I hope some people here will pay some attention to this. [[User:Haiduc|Haiduc]] 01:31, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC) |
*'''[[Batman]]''' Anon deletes academic discussion of history of homoerotic interpretations of Batman and Robin, and no one bothers to revert it, as though it was dirt. Here is the entry on the deletion: ''15:38, 17 Jun 2005 206.201.180.226 (Removed homosexual stuff)'' I do not want to get into a revert war with this bigot, I hope some people here will pay some attention to this. [[User:Haiduc|Haiduc]] 01:31, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC) |
Revision as of 03:43, 11 July 2005
This is the LGBT notice board, for Wikipedians interested in articles related to Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender topics.
If you are interested, please watch this page.
Be sure to post any issues/concerns that you become aware of.
- Note: This page is for lists and summaries. Please have discussions on other pages, and be sure to add a link and description on this page.
Action items
- Note: Please add new entries to the top of each list.
- Relisted: Category:Anti-gay rights legislation (July 2, 2005)
- Category:LGBT rights opposition (June 19, 2005)
- Category:LGBT Ancient Greeks (June 14, 2005)
- Category:Homosexual philosophers (June 14, 2005)
- It is also proposed to rename this to Category:LGBT philosophers but right now the vote is trending toward delete. Everyone is encouraged to please look at the merits of keeping or deleting this.
- Category:Philosophers by sexuality and gender (June 14, 2005)
- Category:Bisexual philosophers (June 14, 2005)
- A second proposal is to merge this category with the (future?) Category:LGBT philosophers. As above, take a peek and speak your minds.
- Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Reduced Gene Pool Argument (July 2, 2005)
- Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Either Or Argument (July 2, 2005)
- Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Duressed bi-curiosity (July 1, 2005)
- Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Innate bisexuality (29 June 2005)
- Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/American Society for the Defense of Tradition, Family and Property (21 June 2005)
- Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Phobia (attitude) (21 June 2005)
- Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/One National Gay & Lesbian Archives (20 June 2005)
- Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Heterophobia (18 June 2005)
- Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Beard (female companion) (10 June 2005)
Proposed merges
- Same-sex attraction (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). Merge with homosexuality or delete
- Pseudo-homosexuality. Discussion on talk page. (11 June 2005)
Articles with disputes
- Homosexuality I suggest people keep an eye on the shenanigans going on there. User Tzenkai and Raul something-or-other came in about a week ago full of pomp and bluster, criticizing the writing and flashing their "credentials" while spelling on the level of slow junior high students. The former is now deleting whole sections and issuing diktats about what should be done with the article. Is this agreeable to everyone here? Haiduc 03:43, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
- Paraphilia over the definition of transvestic fetishism AlexR 04:20, 10 July 2005 (UTC)
- Batman Anon deletes academic discussion of history of homoerotic interpretations of Batman and Robin, and no one bothers to revert it, as though it was dirt. Here is the entry on the deletion: 15:38, 17 Jun 2005 206.201.180.226 (Removed homosexual stuff) I do not want to get into a revert war with this bigot, I hope some people here will pay some attention to this. Haiduc 01:31, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- I actually am very interested in this sort of interpretation of comic art. I just don't have Batman on my watch list. Thanks for pointing it out. -Seth Mahoney 02:47, Jun 18, 2005 (UTC)
- Homosexuality and Christianity
- Gender, particularly [1]; User:Njyoder made some rather sweeping edits, and he isn't known for accepting other people's opinion.
- The Intimate World of Abraham Lincoln (previously titled Sexuality of Abraham Lincoln; POV, weasel phrases, title and article's existence are disputed
- Eli Siegel founder of Aesthetic Realism which promised to "cure" homosexuality. Several supporters of Siegel, or perhaps one supporter from a dynamic IP, persistantly revert the Siegel article to a puff piece and remove any critical info or sources.
- Patpong and Nana Plaza: use of the phrase "kathoeys (transwomen) instead of, or in addition to, women", See discussion at Wikipedia talk:LGBT notice board#Kathoey
- Richard I of England - debate as to whether and if, to which extend article should include bits about Richards homosexuality.
- List of transgendered people an AOL editor with a past history of vandalism has been systematically removing three "Catholic" entries on the list over the last few months, by covering over the edits with other edits in the article. The individual has now reverted to the old tactic of strategically placing internal notes within the article to hide the three entries from public viewing.
- Third gender - Njyoder want this to be merged with gender, because 19.2k Google hits are "not notable" and anyway, it's only about a minority.
- Anti-gay slogan - User:Thomas Aquinas believes the article is biased against people opposed to same-sex sex.
- Christine Jorgensen Somebody keeps inserting sex change into that article.
Requests for comment
- Talk:Clay Aiken - Heated discussion in process about a) whether or not to include a paragraph stating some people think Clay may be gay and b) whether or not to include a link to what may be a website with questionable content. 7 July 2005 16:26 (UTC)
- Now there's a revert war in process over that link in the article. Please help. 8 July 2005 20:45 (UTC)
- Talk:Natalie Wood — one editor has added references to Wood's friendships with gay men, backed up by a citation. Another editor insists on excluding it as "gossip". -- 5 July 2005 11:07 (UTC)
- Another take on the problem might read: One anon editor has added references to Wood's friendships with gay men, backed up by a citation. Another editor insists on excluding it as a disingenious and misleading effort by the anon to ultimately support an assertion in the Elvis Presley article that Presley was gay. 5 July 2005 11:41 (UTC)
- Talk:KJ, Talk:Jamie Denton - are their inclusions in Category:Gay icons (and Category:Sex symbols) verifiable, NPOV and encyclopedic? Samaritan 02:22, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- talk:International Lesbian and Gay Association. Editorial consensus is needed on how to handle the previous membership in the ILGA of NAMBLA and other pedophile groups. Currently, about 2/3 of the article is devoted to these groups which were expelled in 1994, with very little attention given the the bulk of members or the aims of the ILGA. A better balance should be possible. -Willmcw 23:35, May 17, 2005 (UTC)
- ILGA (talk) I'd like to bump this up. Ongoing dispute related to alleged links between pedophile groups and the gay rights groups that founded the ILGA. User:Lmno continues to add poorly sourced content into the article that would, IMHO, seem to be original research and NPOV - a non-significant minority viewpoint on the evidence. Any comments that would help resolve the impasse would be gratefully received. Axon 21:43, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
- "Around the world" articles: I am currently merging the tables in Gay rights around the world into the table at Homosexuality laws of the world. But there are a slew of "Gay Rights in Foo" articles to link. I'm reluctant to do so until the names are fixed. We certainly need to lowercase "Rights", but I'm wondering if "gay rights" is the right name. Thoughts? Contributions to individual country articles are also very welcome. They were written by an anonymous IP who is not a native English speaker. Most or all of them are also listed in Category:LGBT stubs. -- Beland 06:33, 21 May 2005 (UTC) See discussion at Wikipedia talk:LGBT notice board#Naming of country articles
- Talk:Transsexual, particularly "Requirements Changes", for those interested, also the "treatment" topic. Nick proposes writing parts of the article in a way that I fear violates NPOV (although in other texts I have done pretty much the same thing - only those were political documents, not WP articles). Would like a comment before I edit the text again; if more people agree with Nick, then me edting won't be necessary. -- AlexR 11:26, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
- talk:List of famous gay, lesbian or bisexual people has a vote on a proposed standard for the list. -Willmcw 23:03, May 15, 2005 (UTC)
- Categories for deletion/Supercategories and Subcategories - slightly off-topic, a proposal to change how entries are added to multiple categories. I believe this may address the problem underlying the LGBT category controversy. -- Samuel Wantman 19:53, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:David Dreier (scroll down a bit, and it's a lot of reading) if you wish to see an experience of consensus that I found worthwhile. If anyone wants to fine tune the David Dreier article further, thinks it doesn't report on the situation of the 2004 election accurately, or still has comments, they would be very welcome: probably best on that article's talk page. Moncrief 19:33, May 8, 2005 (UTC)
Templates for deletion
Requested moves
Ongoing discussions
- Note: Please link to discussions on other pages. You can start discussions on the talk page.
- What is the correct name? is it LGBT or something else:
- Wikipedia:LGBT notice board/Archive 1#LGBT, queer and definition - about topic names in Wikipedia
- Talk:LGBT - older discussion about topic names in Wikipedia.
- Talk:LGBT#Transgender or Transgendered Which is preferred?
- The ethics of outing on Wikipedia.
- Talk:Oscar Wilde - controversy as to whether to describe Wilde as "gay" or "homosexual."
- Wikipedia:LGBT notice board/Archive 1#Mergers and renames - proposed article renames and mergers.
- Wikipedia talk:LGBT notice board#Categorization of articles proper categorization of LGBT articles
Recent decisions
Category for deletion votes
- Categories for deletion/May 4 - A vote to rename Category:Gay, lesbian or bisexual people to Category:Gay, lesbian, bisexual, or transgender people - The result of the vote was rename.
- Categories for deletion/May 7 - A vote about reinstating LGBT subcategories. The categories were deleted after a debate without most of the people who worked on creating and populating the categories. - The result of the vote was reinstate all. The categories have been restored.
Article votes for deletion
- Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Friend of Dorothy (10 June 2005) - result was keep.
- Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Sappho r.o.k. (11 June 2005) - result was delete.
- Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Aunt Mary (10 June 2005) - result was delete.
- Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Fag hag (10 June 2005) - result was keep.
- Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Homonazi (10 June 2005) - result was delete.
- Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Pronoun game (10 June 2005) - result was keep.
- Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/ILGA-North America (10 June 2005) - result was redirect to International Lesbian and Gay Association.
- Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Pathogenic theory of homosexuality (8 June 2005) - result was merge with Gregory Cochran.
- Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Mincer (6 June 2005) - result was delete.
- Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/The End of Gender: A Psychological Autopsy (6 June 2005) - result was delete.
- Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/LGBT Characters in The Star Trek Universe (4 June 2005) - result was keep.
- Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Androminetophilia (4 June 2005) - result was keep.
- Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Kim evoy (3 June 2005) - result was redirect to Chamberlain v. Surrey School District No. 36.
- Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Pro-feminism (1 June 2005) - result was keep.
- Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Homosexual Cakewalk (31 May 2005) - result was speedy delete.
- Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/The Elite Butt-O-Matic Syncopators from Planet Homo (31 May 2005) - result was speedy delete.
- Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Robert Eads (30 May 2005) - result was keep.
- Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Kaczyzm (29 May 2005) - result was speedy delete.
- Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Section 377 of the Singapore Penal Code (23 May 2005) - result was keep.
- Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Trevor Tangen (21 May 2005) - result was delete.
- Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Bi-permissive (20 May 2005) - result was delete.
- Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/James Harkness (16 May 2005) - result was speedy delete.
- Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Parade Parade (10 May 2005) - result was keep.
- Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Anal masturbation (9 May 2005) - result was keep.
- Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Gayed (8 May 2005) - result was delete.
- Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/NIJJ (8 May 2005) - result was delete.
- Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Sister Unity (8 May 2005) - result was keep.
- Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Pedophilia and homosexuality (8 May 2005) - result was no concensus (ie. default keep)
- Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Muliebrity (7 May 2005) - result was keep.
Resolved disputes
Recent articles
- The Celluloid Closet
- Stephen Spender's sexuality
- Guerilla Gay Bar
- Straight acting
- Kocek
- Tellak
- Baccha
- Should this one be listed among the Transgender in non-western cultures as well, like Kocek? AlexR
- I think so, though what is not quite clear to me is to what extent the boys were naturally transgendered, versus adopting the transgender role as a professional accomodation. Haiduc 03:35, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
Articles needing work
- Stubs can be found at Category:LGBT stubs.
- David and Jonathan is extensive, and David, but Jonathan is a stub/disambig
- Two-Spirit was either previously Berdache or merged with it or something - the article still can't decided what term it is about. Fixed at least first paragraph, but still not good. Maybe somebody with personal knowledge can help out here. -- AlexR 12:36, 14 May 2005 (UTC) (discussion here)
- LGBT literature - rough ouline of the subject, needs a great deal of work.Ganymead 06:08, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
- Crystal and sex. I just started this article and have a lot more to add. Exploding Boy 21:28, May 17, 2005 (UTC)
- I think the title "Crystal meth and sex" would be clearer and more precise for the above. Moncrief 07:25, May 21, 2005 (UTC)
- Legal recognition of same-sex couples in the United States
- Societal attitudes towards homosexuality
- Sexual orientation and military service - I just created it. -- Beland 02:25, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
- Pedophilia and homosexuality
- Pedophilia and sexual orientation
Mergers
- Religion and heterosexuality -> Merge with Religion and sexual orientation and Religion and sexuality.
- Religion and homosexuality -> Merge with Religion and sexual orientation
- Sexual morality -> Move to Religion and sexuality, which is a much more self-descriptive title.
- Anti-gay slogan -> Merge with Societal attitudes towards homosexuality, keeping the list of accusations whole, at the request of Haiduc
Pejorative terms for failed gender roles -> Gender role(done)
Missing articles
- Gay and lesbian history
- Gay fiction
- Gay film
- Gay literature
- Lesbian fiction
- Lesbian film
- Lesbian literature
- LGBT film
- for discussion on the above topics, see Wikipedia talk:LGBT notice board#Missing Articles
Missing Categories
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