User talk:Tony Fox

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		The Working Man's Barnstar
		I've seen your work in the receent changes log. Good job! Wardhog 22:48, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

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		Yes, you do! Thatcher131 16:27, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

On 9 November, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Byron Darnton, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Carabinieri 18:22, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

On 15 November, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Nell Brinkley, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--EncycloPetey 23:05, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

You are now an administrator

Congratulations, I have just closed your RfA as successful and made you an administrator. Take a look at the administrators' how-to guide and the administrators' reading list if you haven't read those already. Also, the practice exercises at the new admin school may be useful. If you have any questions drop me a message at my talk page. Best wishes, WjBscribe 12:21, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

w00t! Congrats, Tony! -- Kesh (talk) 00:13, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations! Addhoc (talk) 05:36, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations on being a special fox! *g* Master of Puppets ^{Care to share?} 05:50, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

(There was an edit conflict. I just came back.) Yes, congratulations, Tony Fox. Flyer22 (talk) 05:56, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations ! Cirt (talk) 06:13, 20 December 2007 (UTC).

Congratulations as well. Cheers, Midorihana_{(talk)(contribs)} 06:31, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Congrats for your successful nomination --JForget 14:38, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

w00tx500! Congratulations! --VSimonian^{([talk]-[contribs]-[email])} 20:16, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

About your RfA

The admins' T-shirt. Acalamari 18:16, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations on your successful request for adminship. I am glad you passed, and you are welcome for the support. For information on using your new tools, see the school for new admins; you will find it very useful. Good luck! Acalamari 18:16, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

You're very welcome! I'm glad to hear of your success. Keep up the good work. :-) Lradrama 12:38, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Re your RfA

The otters say thanks for the fish! Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps)} 18:53, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Keri Nowling

The template "uw-unsourced1" seemed to only go up to level 3 in Twinkle, so I assumed that it was a final warning. My bad. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps)} 03:33, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

I've informed this user that MySpace is not a reliable source, and I've informed him/her about WP:V and WP:RS. If any reliable sources are found that list his DoB as 1960, then I might amend the article to state that his DoB is disputed. (Actually, one source does say that he celebrated his 44th birthday at a concert in 2004, but since everything else says 1959, I went with the majority -- after all, "44" in that one source could've just been a typo.) Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps)} 04:02, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

It happened again... Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps)} 04:17, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

This time, the user placed the following message on my page. Lookingh at Lala.com, it doesn't look like a reliable source at all. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps)} 02:08, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

"The lala.com Website Is A Third Party And The Information They Have As To Collin Raye Is Correct,Because The Article Is Correct.Keri Nowling,Seymour,Indiana."

• I assume that last message was meant for Keri Nowling and not me? I'm quite familiar with WP:RS... Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps)} 02:23, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, as she posted there, I figured I'd respond there. I know you're familiar with guidelines. =) Having said all that, though, I do have to say there seems to be a disagreement on his age depending on what websites you look at... they range all over the place. Annoying, that... Tony Fox (arf!) 02:26, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Guess what happened to Keri Nowling this time? Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps)} 13:17, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Star

Hey, thanks. Tough day in the trenches... Chubbles (talk) 21:44, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Re your comments on my talk page:

"Hi there. Could I please ask that you use the preview button when making a series of edits to a page rather than making a long series of small edits and saving each one every time? I've got the AFD discussion you're participating in on my watchlist, and it's bouncing to the top constantly with every edit that you make. It's usually considered a better move to use preview than multiple saves, and it makes it easier for any other editors who want to edit to do so without hitting an edit conflict. Thanks."

I just saw this; I didn't even know I had a talk page. I also didn't know that careful saving caused admins to be notified disruptively of people's various revisions -- sorry to hear that; I'll try to be more considerate. Ironically, I was making edits in order to strive for the recommendation of your second paragraph (though I hadn't read it at the time):

"I'd also suggest that you keep cool in the discussion of the Jade Raymond AFD; voluminous, argumentative comments sometimes can swing discussions away from the point of said comments. It's best to look at how best to meet the concerns raised in the delete requests, such as the need for good reliable sources to expand the article's sourcing. If you can find good sourcing to help assert notability, that would be useful. Cheers."

I've tried to address the concerns of the delete requests, and actually did add sources. I also added statistics -- please see my initial response one last time.

I wasn't aware that the length of a response was a point of contention; I'll be aware of it now. As for "keeping cool": Nearly all of my edits were made with the idea of "keeping cool" -- perhaps certain comments on the talk page gave me the sense that Raymond's entry was being attacked for reasons that had nothing to do with merit and everything to do with the blatant misogyny that has followed her all over the gaming community.

It seemed to me that people were questioning the Raymond entry's relevance for deeply sexist reasons, just as stalkers had questioned her competence and accused her of literal prostitution all over the internet: because she is encroaching on the territory of male gamers. Though it is far less perilous physically, Raymond's case seems to correspond in many ways to that of Lois E. Jenson v. Eveleth Taconite Co.,[1], as both involve the entrance of a woman into a position and place of employment heretofore staked out as male territory. Both also involve stalking, abuse and sexual harassment, and, later, more insidious claims that the victim was unimportant and that certain nefarious events were not unusual or noteworthy.

Thanks for listening. If you find anything else I might do on this site to be inefficient or troublesome, then please let me know. --Sepium Gronagh (talk) 21:11, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Do you want to thank him for his conduct, Tony, or should I? :) --Kizor 22:07, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Top-posted ... er, stuff

In two years I have posted a few articles, they were done correctly and frankly rather insignificant to begin with. Still you deleted them. Fair enough, I think your an intellectual snob and a could use a spell checking program when you post. A challenge, Tell me my member name and I will donate $1,000.00 you have a month and I will log in under my member name next time I post. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.251.137.149 (talk) 09:44, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Who to the what now? Tony Fox (arf!) 19:18, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

The Medic Droid (band)

There was a weak delete who said they couldn't determine if the band was actually listed on the iTunes chart. It was -- they were listed at Number 28. I treated this as a weak keep. The question was also asked whether the iTunes dance chart counts as a relevant national chart or should be regarded as simply a chart from a single vendor. This was debated and appeared debatable. So the matter seemed to me to be closer than you are suggesting, and I tend to err slightly in favor of keeping. A no consensus can be relisted. Best, --Shirahadasha (talk) 07:08, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Foto na Dans

In November, you voted to keep the band, and said there would likely be more information in Afrikaans, I have a moderate understanding of the language, but have battled to find useful sources in that language. Can you remember if there were there any specific sites which you felt could contain relevant information. I personally think it is a very weak keep, they do get a fair deal of airplay on [MK] and campus radio, but not sure if that is enough for a foreign-language band on the English wikipedia. 198.54.202.242 (talk) 10:33, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Hope you check back here, looks like your IP is dynamic... I don't speak Afrikaans, so I can't really say what would or wouldn't be a good source. I was more suggesting that someone who knows the language would be able to track something down. As you point out in your addition to the article, they are nominated for a number of awards, so I still feel they're on the good side of WP:MUSIC. Cheers! Tony Fox (arf!) 16:42, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Most of the sites I checked either re-iterated what's already on the page or were fan sites filled with emotional language lauding their compositions, unique style etc. Would be a major thing if one could find a place that records South African record sales. I've yet to find one - it would be a good addition to a number of South African articles. 198.54.202.242 (talk) 19:28, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Valencia

Oh my gosh, I LOVE this band! I saw the lead singer do a solo show last week! Ambulance on the way... Chubbles (talk) 21:42, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

I even listened to their CD this morning. How crazy is that? Chubbles (talk) 22:18, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Moises Arias

Thanks, I reverted to the wrong revision. BJ^Talk 05:59, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

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No I won't don't interfere with me working. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kharissa (talk • contribs) 23:29, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

You dont own it either took me a bit to figure out your 'edit conflict' —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kharissa (talk • contribs) 23:40, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Sorry :)

I was just keeping an eye on both places because the editor kept removing the Afd tag and the discussion.  :) Corvus cornix_talk 23:38, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Totalitarianism

As I told another user, the term "totalitarianism" is hotly contested by political scientists. It is a serious violation of NPOV and NOR for Wikipedia users to be randomly and arbitrarily inserting this tag in pages on specific regimes and individuals. The tag can go in articles that directly relate to the subject, such as totalitarianism and post-totalitarianism, books on the subject, and theorists who contributed to the concept such as Hannah Hannah Arendt. I am only removing the tag from where it does not belong. Maglev Power (talk) 01:41, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Welshleprechaun

Hi Tony - this isn't the first time that WL has been involved in this type of thing, and apart from anything else he's broken 3RR on Transport in Wales AND Transport in Cardiff in the last 40 minutes alone. I think a short block is a good idea now, and I've blocked the IP editor as well. I'm happy if you want to reduce it, but I think a block of some sort is required here. Black Kite 19:38, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

WNYO

I am fancymustard's roommate. WNYO-FM has already been dealt with by Dorftrottel. Refer to his talk page! -UWMSports (talk) 18:39, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

So unblock him, you don't have any business here! -UWMSports (talk) 18:40, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

I posted at the user's talk page saying that I'd endorse unblocking if he agrees to resolving the content issues at the article talk page with me. I think the edits happened in good faith and in utter ignorance of all our policies. User:Dorftrottel 18:45, February 5, 2008

OTOH, let him calm down first. User:Dorftrottel 18:47, February 5, 2008

HE gave you a source! He gave you what you wanted. He reverted edits made AGAINST HIM. BLOCK those others that reverted him back if you want to follow code. This is horse shit and you know it! -UWMSports (talk) 18:48, 5 February 2008 (UTC)