User talk:Xeno

Beware! This user's talk page is patrolled by talk page stalkers.

Adoptee subpage update notification section

If you've updated your adoptee subpage, and would like me to respond to it, please sign your name below (~~~~). When you make a new update, delete your signature, and sign again. xenocidic (talk)

• ✓ Kanġi Oĥanko (talk) 18:41, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
• Prom3th3an (talk) 03:13, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

requesting check for suspected sock puppets

as i'm a new anon ip, i will try to ask you the following:

recently on the UFO article, there seems to be the case of sockpuppets:

the admin User:Kwamikagami (aka kwami) seems to be the puppet master of User:ScienceApologist. they always agree with one another, always support one another, always protect one another and always use the same or very similair writing style. so i thought that maybe i can find another neutral admin who checks these two as kwami seems to abuse his admin rights to push the POV of SA and himself. if you feel uncomfortable doing so, please contact one of your admin colleagues and let them do the job. thx in advance. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.84.19.26 (talk) 16:10, June 10, 2008 (UTC)

I'm definitely not the best person to go to with this, I'm not even a week as an admin. I'll raise your concerns with the individuals you mentioned and a neutral admin. xenocidic (talk) 17:08, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

a'right. thank you very much. i think this is the best way to handle this issue and these concerns. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.84.19.26 (talk) 13:13, June 10, 2008

I left messages with the two users you mentioned and another admin. Though you should know that accusing someone of sockpuppetry is a very serious allegation. Also, don't forget to sign your comments with ~~~~. xenocidic (talk) 17:14, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

while that might be true, i think it's better to make sure i'm wrong. i simply see a pattern in the behavior et all with these users...besides their obvious POV pushing. 66.84.19.26 (talk) 17:18, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

If you want to make an accusation, the appropriate place to do it is here. ScienceApologist (talk) 17:20, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Xeno, I've replied on my talkpage to your question. Cheers, Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 17:24, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

• 66.84.x.x, I don't have time to review the lengthly debate at Talk:UFO, but it appears that this has arisen out of a content dispute where consensus has come down on "the other side". Rather than call sockpuppetry (I doubt someone who has been an admin for nearly 3 years would jeopardize the trust of the community by engaging in sockpuppetry) , perhaps seek a less contentious area of editing or accept the consensus, and move on. xenocidic (talk) 17:31, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, Xeno. SA and I have completely different interests and long edit histories, so I don't see how anyone who looked into it would think we're sockpuppets. It seems to be a case of our anon. IP being incredulous that two editors could have the same contrary opinion. kwami (talk) 17:57, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

No problem. I think perhaps a side-order of incorrect terminology use as I suggested here. IP user has since blanked his talk page with the edit summary: no need to block me because of my differing opinion...i'll take my leave now. glad i opened no account. POV and silencing at its best. <^>, so I guess that concludes this matter. Though nothing he did was block-worthy, if misguided. xenocidic (talk) 18:03, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Adoption

User:Spittlespat would like me to adopt him.I don't know if you think I'm ready, but I will co-adopt if I have to. Mr. Green^{Hit Me Up}About Me 16:21, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

You're still a little wiki-young (just 2 months) but I can oversee as co-adopter if you like. xenocidic (talk) 17:02, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Yea ok.I'm trying to find the Mormon UBX Spittlespat mentioned.Do you know where I can find it?Mr. Green^{Hit Me Up}About Me 17:10, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Perhaps this one: {{User:UBX/LDS}}? Useight (talk) 17:13, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Or this one: {{User:Java7837/userboxing/mormon}}? Useight (talk) 17:13, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Us8, I was dealing with the situation above (feel free to comment on that one). xenocidic (talk) 17:17, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

I would take a deeper look into it right now, but I'm busy writing an essay for my Managerial Economics 301 course. I can only contribute via brief, intermittent edits. Useight (talk) 17:21, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

{{Adopter|Spittlespat|coadopter=Jacob696}}
here's this if you want it. Mr. Green^{Hit Me Up}About Me 17:37, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Aye, I'm not putting individual userboxes up anymore (got way too many adoptees, but I'll tuck him onto my adoption page. xenocidic (talk) 17:40, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Shouldn't we not be encouraging adoptees to put up userboxes stating their religion? Not so much a WP:NOTMYSPACE issue, it just doesn't seem like a good idea, doesn't really help or add anything. Gwynand | Talk•Contribs 17:49, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

I think the adoptee was specifically asking for one...so Jacob was just being helpful. as for whether religious userboxen should be displayed... that's a can of worms I'm not going to touch. xenocidic (talk) 17:51, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

And I just answer questions from a neutral point of view. He wondered where the userbox was, I showed him. Useight (talk) 17:52, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Yeah... I was actually trying not to be too preachy about it, but am only mentioning it because this is adoption, seems like the first bit of good advice might be to avoid such user boxes. Gwynand | Talk•Contribs 17:54, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

I'm going to talk to him about it.He doesn't seem to be on right now though.When he comes back I'll try to explain why he shouldn't place that on his page.Mr. Green^{Hit Me Up}About Me 17:56, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

← Might be a good idea. Thanks for the note Gwynand, I was a little tied up (see the section above) to delve deeper into the issue =). While you talk page stalkers are here, why not help me improve my page on the subject? ;> xenocidic (talk) 18:05, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

I'm not a stalker. Oh, wait...Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 18:06, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

why shouldn't I put up my mormon userbox? It's the only userbox I have do You guys think people will hate me just beacuse I am a mormon I'm sure lots of wiki users have the mormon userbox.--Spittlespat (talk) 18:45, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

There's been an ongoing debate as to whether or not it is useful or in the interest of encyclopedia-building to display religious beliefs on one's userpage. As I said above, it's a can of worms I'm not interested in opening. It's ultimately your call. xenocidic (talk) 18:48, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

No, no. Nothing to do with being Mormon. You might want to take a look at WP:NOTMYSPACE. It might cause you problems, and considering I'm sure you don't want people to judge you over it one way or the other, might be best to just not have it. Gwynand | Talk•Contribs 18:49, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

how

how do I make a light green bakcground?--Spittlespat (talk) 18:58, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

My reply here.

I tried to explain how I made my background.I didn't do it the way you showed me.I made a div.I think Spittlespat should get it, but do you want to add anything to what I told him, or make a little more cleaer? Mr. Green^{Hit Me Up}About Me 16:04, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

My reply here.

So aren't you going to put userboxes on my userpage?

Put A userbox that says the user plays the piano and this user plays runescape. OK? Since you adopted me you are ok to put that on my userpage (put the userboxes on my userpage the piano one and the runescape one)--Spittlespat (talk) 19:44, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

My reply here.

check it out!

go to my userpage!--Spittlespat (talk) 20:16, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

My reply here.

Name...?

just out if interest, what does your name mean? I won't likely come back to this page so ANSWER ON MY TALK!!!11!ONE!

It seems to mean 'I kill strangers'. Wait...I'm a stranger to you!

SAVE ME LORD! AGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

--Editor510 ^{drop us a line, mate} 19:05, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

See question 6 here or this. Short answer: xeno is meant to refer to an invading alien species, not "stranger". cheers, xenocidic (talk) 19:08, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

FWIW, Card most certainly did not coin the term Xenocide. See this game from 1989, for example, although I remember a standup arcade game from the late 80's of the same name, too. Jclemens (talk) 20:24, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Not sure if the term appeared in Ender's Game (1985), but Speaker was published in 1986. xenocidic (talk) 20:29, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Contemporary forensic etymology is a fun pastime. Who knows, if we find an authoritative answer, we might be able to stick it into an article somewhere. :-) Jclemens (talk) 20:46, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

=). xenocidic (talk) 20:49, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Sockpuppet concern

Hi. That SSP noticeboard is a genuine study in frustration. That User:CodyBestFoods is an obvious sock of a banned user, right down to the edit patterns and name creation. I've been trying to get the doggoned noticeboard to work for me, but I just can't. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 19:48, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

My reply here.

Never mind; I got it to work. Thanks. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 19:53, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

My reply here.

No problem, bro. Welcome to the mop and bucket brigade and thanks for the help. :) --PMDrive1061 (talk) 19:55, 10 June 2008 (UTC) {{cookie}}

AIV on 65.254.6.98

What's "stale" about my report on User_talk:65.254.6.98? —Largo Plazo (talk) 20:21, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

My reply here.

I don't understand. It doesn't matter how many times a user has vandalized, how many times he has been warned and at what levels, and whether or not he continued doing so after a recent block was lifted, as long as he hasn't edited in the last 45 minutes? —Largo Plazo (talk) 20:29, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

My reply here.

CoD 4

Sorry about removing that section, at first glance it seemed it was just another POV section that sometimes slips into articles; I hadn't looked at CoD 4 in a while, and the new CoD game announcement reminded me. I've been making awkward edits like that all day, I must need a break. Thanks for correcting me, hope it was no trouble. -- Comandante {Talk} 21:01, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

My reply here.

Thanks again, I can relate to the edit thing. And since this other situation I'm in is so similar and you're an admin now (congrats by the way, didn't know about your RfA), maybe you can recommend what to do here: On Fallout 3, is it correct to mention this as a source when saying that fans of the series are "outraged" that the Survival Edition of the game is only available in the US rather than PAL regions? The source is the developer's blog site, but the outrage only appears in the comments, not the blog part itself. Simply put, is it valid or not to include in the article? The exact policies for sources like this always blur for me. -- Comandante {Talk} 21:17, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

My reply here.

Dude,

I totally just ripped off your dashboard. Friggin sweet. Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 15:53, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

oh I know! glad you like it. P.S., It can be transcluded and it should work fine and you'll benefit from any improvements I make to it. xenocidic (talk) 15:56, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

I didn't transclude it, but what are you changing? I like it how it is and did the old fashion cut/paste...Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 16:11, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

I dunno, I might add stuff or just tweak it a bit. Just watchlist it I suppose and see if you want to integrate the changes as they are made. xenocidic (talk) 16:13, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Done. Keep in mind that I'm an old dude. I change slowly, and I creak when I walk. Once I get used to using the dashboard + header, if it changes on me without me knowing ahead of time, I'll start crying like a baby. Thanks for the pilfer - Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 16:17, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Ha ha! Ditto. :D (Sorry for the name confusion on my userpage! If it weren't for all the hullaballoo, it wouldn't have happened. It was by no means meant to be pointy in any way, and I'm glad you fixed it!) --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 17:57, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

No problem at all Moon, it's a common typo. take care of those old bones you two ;> xenocidic (talk) 17:58, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Talk page stalker!!!. I love what Xeno is doing with this dashboard thing, I'm having a great time with it - I encourage you MRG to get it up and running, it is so efficient! BTW, I also today linked my dashboard to your "frequently used templates", because well, it's sheer genius and organized. Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 18:00, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

← I got dem linked too, but from here. xenocidic (talk) 18:03, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. :D Right now I have the dashboard thing linked from my userpage under "upcoming and ongoing projects". When my work situation settles, I may set it up more completely. As to the TPS charge, well. Guilty. However, I came on legitimate business this time. I need to 'pologize. :) --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 18:06, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

newbie, can you tell?

Hi! Thanks for responding to my request for help -- I just updated my talk page with the following question:

Regarding valid acceptable references and sourcing for new articles that are IT related, are articles and reports from industry-leading analysts (such as Gartner, IDC, Forrester Research, etc.) considered valid?

Thanks for your help! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Elmorgan (talk • contribs) 18:50, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

My reply here.

Hi again.

I just posted my question related to sourcing new articles, but forgot to sign my name...

Elmorgan (talk) 18:54, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

My reply here.

Thanks for replying! I did read the document you suggested, but I just can't tell from what's there... thing is, if analyst sources are not acceptable, I don't want to write the article, or take up anyone's time reviewing it, since analyst reports are the only credible source I can find for the emerging technology I want to cover.

Elmorgan (talk) 19:02, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

My reply here.

Numberjacks

Compare the changes to the titles to the links to the Numberjacks website and you'll see he/she repeatedly changes them so they are incorrect. I reported the vandalism as soon as I saw it. It went stale as he/she doesn't seem to attack elsewhere. If the vandalism contines I'll request semi-protection. Bevo74 (talk) 21:07, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

My reply here.

Talk Page Stalking

{{WP:TPS/userbox|stalkee=yes}} I decided to add a new userbox to my userbox page (currently hidden) :)   «l| Ψrom3th3ăn ™|l»  (talk) 07:18, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Nice =). Feel free to help improve the page as well. xenocidic (talk) 12:21, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

User:Icantstayaway

Hi there. I see that you don't consider User:Icantstayaway's contributions vandalism. As far as I can see the user is repeatedly adding unsourced content to articles about living people, despite having been warned about this. May I ask you to reconsider? -- JediLofty ^{User ¦ Talk} 10:35, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

My reply here.

No, as far as I can see the user has not responded anywhere, but has added unsourced and OR material, even after having been warned repeatedly. I'm not sure I necessarily agree with your assessment that unsourced contributions to articles on living persons aren't vandalism. Certainly the more sever BLP warning templates ({{uw-biog3}} and {{subst:uw-biog4}}) both mention the threat of blocking.-- JediLofty ^{User ¦ Talk} 12:37, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

My reply here.

Fair enough. Thank you for your speedy response! -- JediLofty ^{User ¦ Talk} 12:42, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

The two IPs

See 1 and 2. They are at the very least editing from the same location, and it is highly probable that they are the same person. The Hybrid 13:07, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

My reply here.

Re:It's been a while

(Re [1]) This one stumped me for a while, but then I noticed you were using the {{Userbox}} template. I have encountered that in the past and for some reason it always seems to have major issues with doing what you want it to do. (no clue why) I "hardcoded" the userbox and it seems to align fine now. Gotta tell you man, doing that felt like old times.... *sniff* ;) Thingg^⊕⊗ 14:00, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

My replies here.

hmm... the spacing is an easy fix, but it might take me a while to figure out the other one... just FYI. Thingg^⊕⊗ 14:07, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

My reply here.

ok, I came up with an admittedly clumsy fix, but it works and I really have no idea how to do it more efficiently. btw, I also inadvertently stumbled on the reason why the old userbox was out of wack: it was aligned to the left... (nice huh?) Thingg^⊕⊗ 14:50, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

My reply here.

Re AIV

Yes, this editor's only edits today are those two to a talk page. The AIV was concerning the edit late last night, as indicated. (Incidentally, couldn't we at least get you a less crappy t-shirt or a nicer mop?) - Mdsummermsw (talk) 15:53, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

My reply here.

thanks

for the help.I posted it at th village pump, but idk how well it'll work...Mr. Green^{Hit Me Up}About Me 17:18, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

My reply here.

oops...sorry.Mr. Green^{Hit Me Up}About Me 17:31, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

My reply here.

Ummmm....I'm not sure what the link you gave me yesterday was supposed to tell me.Mr. Green^{Hit Me Up}About Me 15:21, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Oops - my reply here.

Cooly and thanks for putting it on my page for me. :)

Dashboard

For your dashboard, it looks like other people are starting to copy it to their own userspace. Would you like to make the page transcludable (that's a mouthful) so others can just transclude it to a page of their choice? Or perhaps the page can be modulized so people can pick-and-choose what they want to appear on their own version of the dashboard. Gary King (talk) 19:10, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

It should already be transcludemable. Modularization sounds fun. xenocidic (talk) 19:12, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Only Keeper is using it for now. There are others who linked to the dashboard for when they need it. Gary King (talk) 15:20, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Stopping by to note that I've been making quite a lot of use of it from my link point. :) --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 17:07, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Glad that it's useful to people. =) Let me know if you can think of any ways to improve or enhance it. xenocidic (talk) 17:09, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Reply

No, I haven't, but now that I just did, I see it as a very reasonable explanation for what occurred. Enigma ^message 00:02, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

My RFB

Thank you for your comments in my RFB. Since it was only at 64%, it was a shoo-in to be unsuccessful, so I withdrew. I didn't want it to run until its scheduled close time because my intent in standing for RFB was to help the bureaucrats with their workload, not give them one more RfX to close. Through the course of my RFB, I received some very valuable feedback, some of it was contradictary, but other points were well agreed upon. I have ceased my admin coaching for now to give me time to revamp my method. I don't want to give up coaching completely, but I'm going to find a different angle from which to approach it. As for my RFA Standards, I am going to do some deep intraspection. I wrote those standards six months ago and I will slowly retool them. This will take some time for me to really dig down and express what I want in an admin candidate. If, after some serious time of deep thought, I don't find anything to change in them, I'll leave them the way they are. I'm not going to change them just because of some community disagreement as to what they should be. Will I stand for RFB again in the future? I don't know. Perhaps some time down the road, when my tenure as an administrator is greater than one year, if there is a pressing need for more active bureaucrats, maybe. If there no pressing need, then maybe not. Useight (talk) 03:00, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

My reply here.

Thankyou

Thankyou for your help thing you set up on my page if i need help i will contact you Thanks. (Icantstayaway (talk) 08:47, 13 June 2008 (UTC)).

hi xenocidic, i apologise for the rather abusive and somewhat insulting behaviour. i didn't originally create the page 'Callum Stroud' but i know who did and they told me to look at it. i came on to look at and to my slight annoyment, it had been deleted. As i did not know the content of this page, i don't know how oit violated the rules of Wikipedia. i was annoyed at not being able to read what my friend had put about me and thought i would leave a message to show my annoyment. i realise that it was immature and irresponsible.please do not block me. i will now delete the page and ensure it doesn't happen again. many thanks, Stroudi —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stroudi (talk • contribs) 16:05, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

My reply here.

User:Otto4711

darn you beat me to him....Mr. Green^{Hit Me Up}About Me 16:38, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

{{User:Jacob696/UBX/MONK}}

What did I do wrong....it looks ugly....Mr. Green^{Hit Me Up}About Me 16:50, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

My replies here.

AHA...thanks....Mr. Green^{Hit Me Up}About Me 17:09, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Do you know the HEX code for blue?The kind of blue that I have on the monk ubx?Mr. Green^{Hit Me Up}About Me

My reply here.

Cooly....thanksMr. Green^{Hit Me Up}About Me

Hello is this where you wanted me to let you know that I have finished (roughly) my piece on Raymond Griffiths? Ellerdch (talk) 18:02, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

How much do you know about world history?

I need to know where a bomb from Japan landed in in America.It did not explode for a couple years after it landed.I think it may have been in Hawaii but I'm not sure.Mr. Green^{Hit Me Up}About Me 18:43, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Dance Dance Revolution (Game Boy versions)

(Re [2]) There doesn't appear to have been a consensus, just a few changes made by Link as he promoted his position on the subject. The title "hand held versions" is too vague, as there's plans for a "Cell phone versions" article as well (which would also fall under hand held games). And merging those two articles would make it too large. Game Boy versions is the best fit in this case and I have to take any proposal from Link to the Past with a grain of salt as I've encountered him many times making over zealous changes that few or no one agrees with. In the end it's still a case by case idea, I believe that sorting by system instead of type is better given the amount of broad-based DDR articles there are and will be. --AeronPrometheus (talk) 18:47, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

My reply here.

Thank you much. --AeronPrometheus (talk) 18:58, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Dashboard idea

Is there a way to get the "immediate requests" box to update when there are current requests for rollback? I think the requests get filled relatively quickly, so maybe unnecessary/moot as most admins that grant userrrights watchlist the RFR page. Just a thought though, Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 19:08, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

I'll take a look when I get home. Heading out the door this second =). xenocidic (talk) 19:13, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Inexcusable! Fix it now!!! Actually, I think it wouldn't work, because there isn't a CAT to link to "current requests". But I'm a techno-n00b, so I could be really just talking gibberish...Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 19:15, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Hows this - when there are unanswered requests for rollback, a section will appear in the table of contents "Rollback requests". If there are no requests, there will be no such section. Good enough? Will work as long as someone doesn't futz up the Rollback requests page. xenocidic (talk) 21:47, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Excellent! Fix mine too! For your convenience.... Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 22:09, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Ah, keeper, too busy socializing on your talk to realize I did this 25 minutes ago... ;p xenocidic (talk) 22:12, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

You've done well, grasshopper. You've done well. I bow at your feet, o technologically gifted one. Like I said though, rollback requests are usually granted within minutes of request at RFR, so I probably won't need the extra feature, but I'm glad it's there anyway. Cheers, have a great weekend, Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 01:52, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Heh, no problem, you too. As long as the WP:RFR page doesn't get futz with, it should work well. I gave you credit for the idea in the documentation of the dashboard. xenocidic (talk) 01:54, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Re:Comments.js

Sorry - I just had it restored with {{db-author}} still on it. I have the text copied now, so yes, feel free to delete it. Thanks, « Milk's Favorite Cøøkie 23:21, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Ta

Thanks for the defence of my CSD patrolling on my talk page Fritzpoll (talk) 23:22, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

No problem at all. I know how it is to be questioned for "new admin cautionism" ;p xenocidic (talk) 23:24, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Dashboard?

Hi Xeno, I've seen on Tan and Keeper's page something about an admin dashboard. If it's not complicated, can you show me how to use it? It sounds useful. _{TravellingCari}^{the Busy Bee} 02:03, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Certainly! The dashboard is at User:Xenocidic/dashboard. You can copy the code, or preferably, just transclude it somewhere in your userspace. Or you could even just use it right from my page, but then you wouldn't get added to the user's list =). Dashboard documentation and feature requests are on the talk page here: User talk:Xenocidic/dashboard. happy admniming, xenocidic (talk) 02:04, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! I'll look into it. It seems easy enough to use. I'll let you know if I have any questions _{TravellingCari}^{the Busy Bee} 02:16, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

I'll vouch for it. The "dashboard" is a beautiful thing, insanely useful, for which Xeno, if he invented it, (I'm pretty sure he did), should get accoloages, barnstars, and flowers sent to his home. I love my dashboard, seen here...Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 02:18, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Yes, his dashboard is slightly modified because he likes to delete pages more than whack vandals. ;p ( i keed ) xenocidic (talk) 02:21, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

OK, I'm confusled. Not hard. I'm not code-inclined. I made it here and then I got your header so I changed it to my name and got a red link. Otherwise, I like how handy the links are. It beats loading pages just to see if there is anything new. _{TravellingCari}^{the Busy Bee} 02:22, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Aye, you don't need that header line unless you have a header that you put on all your pages as I do (and keeper robbed from me, but that's ok, because I robbed it from someone else). xenocidic (talk) 02:24, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Got it, thanks! Off to play. Know where to find you if I have any other questions. It looks like a great tool, thanks for creating it. _{TravellingCari}^{the Busy Bee} 02:28, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

No problem! If I make any enhancements, I'll integrate them into your dash. Let me know if you would like anything added. xenocidic (talk) 02:30, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

The Training Wiki

Hey Xenocidic,

Are you interested in helping me Founder a "Trainig Wiki" for adoptees (and adopters), admin coaching/ers to be able to try out various things (including admin tools) in an enviroment that is based entirely on Wikipedia (with appropriate Attribution).

This wiki will also be used for testing media wiki extentions that could be implemented in all the wikimedia foundation projects, but thats up to thwem we can only provide feedback on the extention page..

You may say "this idea has already been done", well you could not be more from the truthe. Ive seen the most common wiki that attempt's to give users experiance with the tools, but this wiki is noway similar to wikipedia (i mean they're not even running the same version or templates etc to try)

Have a think about it and get back to me   «l| Ψrom3th3ăn ™|l»  (talk) 10:32, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

To be honest, I don't really have time to work on another wiki, I'm also not sure how much benefit there is in giving users admin tools in a clinical environment like a test wiki. Really and truly, the tools themselves are not that difficult to use, it's in the application of said tools to real-world situations that requires experience. xenocidic (talk) 14:02, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Re: Not a barnstar

Thanks! The code was so straightforward that this has inspired me to consider embarking on tweaking other things in scripts to my liking. (It sounds like you had a similar experience with your modification) Never done JavaScript before, but it just looks like a pretty basic C++-style language with duck-typing.

Kinda funny that there was >5k of hand-wringing over that issue, and it literally was like a single line of code to change the script so that Kelly wouldn't have that problem in the future. ha ha ha... --Jaysweet (talk) 14:27, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

How's it hangin'?

Hi, just thought I'd say a little hello – and congratulate you on your adminship! Hope you guys have been taking good care of the GTA IV article, it would appear that I haven't even taken the time to buy and play it yet! And since that one was actually the only article I was editing on a regular basis, I'm almost on a wikibreak now, only editing when I spot something a do better in less than 30 seconds, heh. nut how's it hangin' for you, got plenty of work to do as an administrator, huh? — Emil K. ^{(talk|contribs)} 00:36, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

My reply here.

Congratulation

I saw that you were named an administrator even though I have only dealt with you a little. Congratulations. Chris (talk) 18:35, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Chris! Let me know if I can be of any assistance. xenocidic (talk) 15:13, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Anytime. Chris (talk) 15:16, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

RE: Ewi30 Blocking

Thank you for blocking the user I stopped from further vandalizization. Cedarvale1965-08 (talk) 02:46, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

No problem. He obviously wasn't here to contribute constructively. xenocidic (talk) 02:48, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Agreed (Cedarvale1965-08 (talk) 04:16, 16 June 2008 (UTC))

RE: Request for adminship

Thank you for taking care of my request on the request page. I am sorry, but I have not ever tried to recieve adminship. I hope I get in, but it's not crucial. I'll just stay an experienced user. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cedarvale1965-08 (talk • contribs) 03:22, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

It looks like your RFA has already been closed, but no problem. xenocidic (talk) 03:30, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Pablo Picasso

Thank you for your assistance with Talk:Pablo Picasso Dbiel ^(Talk) 03:38, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Is using "move" to create an article talk page archive considered acceptable? If not, could you post a notice stating so at User talk:Koavf as this is his primary method of creating archives and he was the one who created the problem that you helped fix. Thank you again Dbiel ^(Talk) 03:56, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

My "oppose"

Thanks for notifying me! Which status thingy are you using? I have been using the manual one but I am getting rather fed up with it! --Cameron (T|C) 14:04, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Oh yes I see now. I think I shall switch sometime soon. = ) Thanks, --Cameron (T|C) 14:12, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Userboxes

Since you just became a admin you proboly don't have as much time anymore.I was wondering if you would like me to take your userbox requests off your hands. I'm pretty sure I could handle any requests.Mr. Green^{Hit Me Up}About Me 18:28, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

I haven't had a request in a while, but if I do, and I can't handle it, I'll certainly send them your way. xenocidic (talk) 18:29, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Read and Understood

(Re [3]) KK. I'll put in a request now. StewieGriffin! • Talk Sign 18:49, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Ye, not sure if it'll work due to the SUL which I just remembered, but couldn't hurt to try. P.S. I'll have a new report ready tonight (EST), but probably not in time for today's broadcast, if you're making one today. xenocidic (talk) 18:51, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

I've put in a request for a steward. There should really be a new tool. Anyway, I need to take my dog out still: Image:BlackLab.jpg. I'll try to put a short one out today and get your contribution on tomorrows. I can't say for definite if there will be one tonight. StewieGriffin! • Talk Sign 18:59, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Archiving

Why? On my talk, you made the claim "Cutting and pasting is typically preferable to page-move archiving." Where did you get this information? WP:ARCHIVE gives the pros and cons of both, and I personally prefer page moving. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 20:32, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Not really It is not clear that there is a consensus for copy-and-paste moving for two reasons: 1.) three out of 5 million members does not consensus make and 2.) if anyone was pleased with the move-archive method, he wouldn't complain on my talk in the first place. I prefer move archiving to copy-and-paste; I realize other editors disagree and that is fine with me as well. But it remains to be seen that one is necessarily better than the other and as you point out, there is not a policy obliging one method. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 21:31, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi

Just saying hello. How are you?  :) --UberVash (talk) 21:21, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Our Adoptee

Seems to be editing less and less. Have you talked to him lately? Dusti^SPEAK!! 00:34, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

See my talk. Dusti^SPEAK!! 15:50, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

My status script

I need some help on it, mainly getting the automatted process working again, but also changing this to how yours is with the dot. It right now takes up too much room and is sometimes hard to read.— Dædαlus^T@lk / _Improve^Contribs 02:59, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Nicolaus Copernicus

Thanks for your assistance and reverting the archive Talk:Nicolaus Copernicus/Archive 6created using move and moving it back to Talk:Nicolaus Copernicus Dbiel ^(Talk) 13:46, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Yea, no problem. He sure did this to a lot of pages, I've been at it all morning. xenocidic (talk) 13:47, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks very much for doing the same for Talk:Charles Darwin, wasn't feeling confident enough to tackle it myself. Much appreciated. . . dave souza, talk 17:26, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Many thanks for all your work, expecially for starting the discussion at Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#Proposal to discourage pagemove archiving Dbiel ^(Talk) 19:08, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Auto archiving

Hmm, good to know that the bot can still handle the threads. Perhaps I'll give it a try one of these days. Useight (talk) 15:33, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Yep, I'll let you know if it works as advertised. xenocidic (talk) 15:34, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, looks like MiszaBot III is coming through under pressure. Useight (talk) 16:21, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Disambiguation

Anny....I don't know what to do with this article.Shouldn't it be a disambiguation? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jacob696 (talk • contribs) 4:03, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

It kindof already is somewhat like a disambig. I would just leave it alone. Maybe tag it with Category:Disambiguation. If you're asking if it should be moved to Anny (disambiguation) then, no, because there's no article that wants to be at Anny. xenocidic (talk) 16:08, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Okay I added it to the Category:Disambiguation. Thanks. Mr. Green^{Hit Me Up}About Me 16:15, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Do you know the HEX code for light green?

Also, do you know what I did wrong for my comitted idedtity template? Mr. Green^{Hit Me Up}About Me 18:16, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

My replies here.

Nine days

Did I miss something? That IP you just blocked hadn't edited in nine days, and I had tagged as such... Tan | 39 17:42, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Nope, you were quite right. I didn't notice the dates, and when I saw the extreme language used, I went right to the blocking form. I've already unblocked. xenocidic (talk) 17:43, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Word - Tan | 39 17:44, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Wikigoon

Awww....you removed the WikiGoon...he's a newly discovered fauna of Wikipedia, shouldn't he be listed too? (Don't worry - I didn't put him back in, nor will I :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by KoshVorlon (talk • contribs) 18:41, June 17, 2008 (UTC)

I moved it to the Extended Fauna list, where new discoveries belong (See Template talk:Wikipedia fauna). But if you were to kick some earnings upstairs, we could talk ;p xenocidic (talk) 18:47, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Dashboard - Thanks (suppression)

Hi there! Just a quick thanks for suppressing the admin section for me (I was unaware this option was available, though I admit I did not look. I've been keeping an eye on your talk page for a while now (can't remember why), but you seem like a good bloke -- Keep up the good work. — Relyimah ^(t-c-e) 20:54, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

It wasn't. I designed it for you ;>. As such, I've immortalized you in the documentation. No problem - enjoy! oh, and thanks. =) xenocidic (talk) 20:57, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! While I know it will be a long long time before I ever considered admin status, I have always been one who likes to know what is going on with that side of things... your dashboard seemed like a good first step. Cheers! — Relyimah ^(t-c-e) 21:06, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

For sure. It can serve as a quick shortcut to get to AIV (though I always prefered twinkle's ARV system) you could also comment on AIV reports, you can also keep an eye on users looking for help, RFA, and comment at WP:UAA. xenocidic (talk) 21:09, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

I have already started doing some of this already (however, I tend to do most of this when I should be doing 'proper' work). Once I get some more time on my hands (Read: win the lottery), I hope to start cleaning this place up a bit :) Thanks again, and it seems I know where to come if I ever need assistance with anything. Now, on to some of that work I'm supposed to be doing... — Relyimah ^(t-c-e) 21:13, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

I was trying to figure out what was going on there, both of you confused me!!! Unfortunatley, the IP came back, thought I would tell you since you gave the warning. Dusti^SPEAK!! 23:38, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

No problem. I issued a final warning. I'm on the way out the door, so report to AIV if he re-vandalizes. xenocidic (talk) 23:40, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. Dusti^SPEAK!! 23:42, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Proposal

Thanks for the notification. Ty 00:07, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

RE: Discouraged Staatements

You're right. I probaly shoulf NOT add text like I did. I have since removed it. I just figured since you're allowed to have boxes that state you support a canidate, I thought you could add something like I did. Thanks for telling me. --Cedarvale1965-08 (talk) 01:47, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

thanks buddy

Thanks, i only want to stop vandalism and revert pages, yet i didnt know how to do it until now. Thanks a bunch. And i do have twinkle, yet how do i use it?

((T'ratos theGreat —Preceding comment was added at 02:14, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

oh, yeah see i dont have firefox, just ie so. I have to revert the manual way. Oh well. And i cant install it either, so.

T'ratos theGreat —Preceding comment was added at 02:17, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Great, thanks. And just to make sure i dont mess up, how do i undo? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tratos the Great (talk • contribs) 02:19, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

i did it!!!

I have within 10 minutes fully reverted pages & sent out warnings to the users of 3 vandalized pages! Im so happy, im a true member of the anti-vandaluism unit. :) Thanks so much buddy.

T'ratos theGreat —Preceding comment was added at 02:49, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

hey, check out this page

I want you to check out this page and tell me what we should do with it. ‎Walter Willison -Tratos —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tratos the Great (talk • contribs) 03:24, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

...

I was wondering if instead of waiting 4 days, if you could please promote me to the Established Users group. I am one ( in reality, not yet in wiki tho) but i dont want to wait. I hate having to write the kapitcha's all the time. Please? T'ratos theGreat —Preceding comment was added at 03:58, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

I don't think that's possible. You'll have to wait it out, unfortunately. As for the article you asked about above, it needs a huge cleanup. If you feel up to copyediting it, go for it. I'm off for the night. happy editing, xenocidic (talk) 04:03, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Bureacracy at its finest...

Looking through random articles, I become interested in Edison's Conquest of Mars (nothing to do really with the point of this), so I look it up on Barnes & Noble's site. There, I see a passing reference to Catch-22, and in turn look up the plot here. I eventually find this and this.

Basically, there's an article for every character in the book, no matter how obscure, and I have no idea why all of this wasn't condensed onto the list of characters page in more succinct descriptions. Since overlooked stuff like this irritates me (enough to post this here at almost 2 AM), I am considering putting all of the character articles in an AfD: none of them assert notability or have sources, and since when do we need an article for every character in a book? Sure, I could just start up a merge discussion, but I doubt that would work; I don't even want to take on the task of a merge like that, so I don't see why anyone else would want to, unless a sizable group of editors got together and did it all at once. Even if there is a merge, most of the less important character articles should be deleted rather than become redirects, which is a lot of deletions.

Anyway, I know something should be done about this, but I don't even know where to begin. Is it even possible to put so many articles up for deletion at once? I'm just at a loss of how to handle the matter (I hesitated before posting this and thought of ignoring it, but hey, it's 2 AM so why not?). -- Comandante {Talk} 05:50, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Well, I squared my jaw and went to work, and decided I can't possibly do it alone. It appears there were previous efforts to try and merge the pages together, but nothing happened. I guess no one else wants to take on such a load. Putting some thought into it, I think this is what needs to be done:

• Merge all Catch-22 character articles (except for this and this, more detailed, possibly notable) into List of characters in Catch-22.
• Identify the major/important characters of the novel; I haven't read the book so I'm not in a position to do this.
• Delete all of the articles on the unnamed characters, as well as the majority of named characters who aren't significant in the plot; I don't believe there's a need for so many obscure redirects.
• Convert the undeleted articles about the more significant characters into redirects to the main list.
• Clean up Template:Catch-22, and put it on the Catch-22 article; it isn't there for whatever reason.

Or, Option B-urrito: We ignore all of this, you delete these comments, and I forget the issue by eating this burrito in my fridge. Kind of sad just letting this go (nags at my organizational side), but I figure if we can't do it, we can't do it. This kind of cleanup needs manpower and gusto, which are at a premium this day and age ("someone else will do it eventually," etc.). But I ramble, so -- Comandante {Talk} 07:10, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Interesting. I always thought Catch-22 was written by Kurt Vonnegut? Maybe I'm thinking of something else. Anyhow, what to do with these? They've been around for an awful long time. Since the main article claims that this is "cited as one of the great literary works of the Twentieth century" then I suppose it does deserve some deeper discussion, but many of these characters articles are completely unreferenced and based on primary sources. Is Maid with the lime-colored panties deserving of her own article? Certainly not, perhaps merge with Lime-colored panties ( I keed ). Anyhow, as you said, this is indeed a monstrous task, perhaps one that may best be prompted by a mass AFD, which I've seen before in the past. Anyhow, just so you know your burrito comment really made me hungry this morning. I'm going to ask someone who is more experienced with deletion to comment. 12:23, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

copied from keeper 76's talk page Ouch! Why'd you poke me? I'm tellin' mom....With a title like "bureacracy at its finest", I was holding my breath expecting the worst...whew. It's about content! How refreshing! I agree with Commandante - those need some massive pruning/deleting, especially the "unnamed characters". How silly for standalone articles, and completely implausible search terms. The "Catch-22" in all of this is that anyone who hasn't read the book won't find them notable, and anyone who has, because it is a fantastic book, will argue that they are all notable. I don't think a mass AFD is the way to go, too pointy. I think BOLDNESS is the way to go, with a dash of IAR. Before deleting anything though, because it is such a prolificly available and popular book, there are no doubt countless reviews/dissections—probably graduate papers, on the book and the characters. If a few sources can fix the WP:OR problem, perhaps they can be salvaged? I'm talking about the "named characters", not the ridiculous maids and whores and whore's sisters...Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 13:44, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Xenocidic: Thanks for taking a look at it. As I may have mentioned, I'm probably not the best person to go around and point out the significant characters since I haven't even read the book. By the way I've opted for Option C-oming to my fridge to eat the burrito; all of the burrito and none of ignorance of Option B-urrito. Anyway, I'm willing to do something to help clean up the articles, I just need to be pointed in the right direction or something (but I'm not reading the book for this; I already have six novels for summer reading for my AP classes, so my hard-worker side is swamped). Whenever someone comes up with a plan, I'll be there (unless no one tells me about the plan; people have a tendency to forget to inform me of important stuff, like the field trip bus leaves at 5:00 AM...). Thanks again. -- Comandante {Talk} 16:54, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Perhaps another course of action would be to try figure out who is an active contributor to these articles and gently suggest they perform some merging into the List of chars article. xenocidic (talk) 16:58, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Using Sparknotes, I believe I've weeded out the lesser characters. Here I've altered the template to contain only the major characters, which either are notable enough for their own articles or just enough to not warrant deletion. These are mainly notable becuase they personally affect the main character, John Yossarian, or represent the significant failings of the military bureacracy in relation to Yossarian's squadron and thus impact the plot. I'll start getting to some of the active editors and begin merging the lesser notable characters to the main list; found a spare hour or two in my schedule today. -- Comandante {Talk} 18:35, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

In the words of a great man, make it so. xenocidic (talk) 18:38, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

k, i would like to user Rollback now

I have reverted a good number of pages now, and i get the hang of it. Can you please allow me to use it now? If so, thanks. IUf not, im still reverting anyway, just thought Rollback might make it easier. T'ratos theGreat —Preceding comment was added at 16:41, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

It's too early to grant rollback, you've only made a handful of undo's, and not all of them were correct. Continue using the undo button for a few weeks. xenocidic (talk) 16:43, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Farm?

Hi Xenocidic, I believe an account you have blocked (Nigel321) might be part of a vandalizing sock farm. I've filed an RFCU here, in case you want to comment. Thanks, R. Baley (talk) 17:03, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Done. cheers, xenocidic (talk) 17:08, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

3rd Party Opinion

As a gamer, can I get you to drop in and give an outside opinion at Talk:List_of_songs_in_Rock_Band#Offspring_DLC where there is a discussion on whether DLC announcements from the artists themselves count as reliable sources Vs. announcements by the games publishers. Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Chrislk02 ^{Chris Kreider} 18:18, 18 June 2008 (UTC)