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Article Licensing

Hi, I've started a drive to get users to multi-license all of their contributions that they've made to either (1) all U.S. state, county, and city articles or (2) all articles, using the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike (CC-by-sa) v1.0 and v2.0 Licenses or into the public domain if they prefer. The CC-by-sa license is a true free documentation license that is similar to Wikipedia's license, the GFDL, but it allows other projects, such as WikiTravel, to use our articles. Since you are among the top 1000 Wikipedians by edits, I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all of your contributions or at minimum those on the geographic articles. Over 90% of people asked have agreed. For More Information:

• Multi-Licensing FAQ - Lots of questions answered
• Multi-Licensing Guide
• Free the Rambot Articles Project

To allow us to track those users who muli-license their contributions, many users copy and paste the "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" template into their user page, but there are other options at Template messages/User namespace. The following examples could also copied and pasted into your user page:

Option 1

I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions, with the exception of my user pages, as described below:

{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}

OR

Option 2

I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions to any [[U.S. state]], county, or city article as described below:

{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}

Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain, you could replace "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" with "{{MultiLicensePD}}". If you only prefer using the GFDL, I would like to know that too. Please let me know what you think at my talk page. It's important to know either way so no one keeps asking. -- Ram-Man (comment| talk)

Priory of Sion

FYI, I did I little formatting on your fine Priory of Sion article, mostly in regards to section headings (per Dysprosia's comment) and numbering. I also did some work on the Rennes-le-Château and Bérenger Saunière articles, in case you're interested. Gwimpey 19:04, Jul 12, 2004 (UTC)

Paul Smith hacked at Bérenger Saunière by completely replacing the text, then blanked my user page and told me I needed to do some more reading. Apparently, he didn't like the way I described the Priory hoax. I'm trying to incorporate his edits back into my article with some language improvements. You might want to keep an eye on all the Priory pages. Gwimpey 01:37, Jul 19, 2004 (UTC)

Templars

That was a great change you made to what I wrong on Knights Templar. I agree with it totally, thanks!

Wgfinley 16:12, 16 Jul 2004 (UTC)

The Templar Revelation

Since you've done such good work on Priory of Sion and Holy Blood, Holy Grail, I thought I'd ask if you can add anything to the The Templar Revelation article. —Charles P. ^(Mirv) 00:11, 11 Jan 2005 (UTC)

I would love to but I haven't read the book so I can't contribute much to the article. Loremaster 15:27, 11 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Neurotheology: Protoscience

Thank you for correcting this[1], protoscience is more correct. --AI 20:52, 6 September 2005 (UTC)

Templar page

Thanks for the revisions Loremaster - that really cleaned up that page. I'll work on my re-write of the history in Jan, and post it on the talk page for approval. Like your quote, by the way - Sneakers, isn't it?DonaNobisPacem 23:39, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

I look forward to reading your re-write. Oh yes that quote is from the film Sneakers. ;) Loremaster 00:05, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

User 166.66.16.116 is constantly trying POV editing on the page, and refuses to go to the talk page - is there anything to do, other than constantly revert? I mean, you should check out the history there! He's taken his editing to other pages as well, mostly with conspiracy theories and the like.....DonaNobisPacem 07:37, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

Well, if this user decides to undo all the work I have done, we would have to trigger the dispute procedure. However, since he seems to only focus on external links for now, we can let him be as long as the section isn't overwhelmed with Templar-Masonic links. Loremaster 21:22, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

So by the comments on the Templar page, it appears user 166.66.16.116 is really BlueTemplar13 - that's quite a rant against the Church he has going there! It doesn't have much to do with the article, it seems to be a bit more personal than that - I think I'm just going to let it go....DonaNobisPacem 06:26, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

Apparently I am not liked....User_talk:DonaNobisPacem#Templar.....which is really funny, considering I haven't been around to revert his edits lately! DonaNobisPacem 20:51, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

Don't worry about it. I think our crusading BlueTemplar will be neutralized sooner rather than later. --Loremaster 22:26, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

Transhumanism

You're doing great work there. This article is getting better and better. Metamagician3000 02:06, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

Thank you. So are you. Someone should work on the Human enhancement article. --Loremaster 02:16, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

There's already a useful article called Human genetic engineering, which you may have seen. I've done some work on it and think it is pretty good in its current form. It doesn't cover the entirety of what could be called "human enhancement" but it's doing some of the job. I don't have time now, but it would make sense to grab some of the material in that article as the core of a human enhancement article. It would be necessary to cross-link them and to explain that the expression "human enhancement" could cover a variety of technologies that could be used to increase human capacities - whether prosthetic, neurological, or whatever - as well as genetic technology. Metamagician3000 05:50, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

I created a stub article for Human enhancement. --Loremaster 22:43, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the message. I had seen the notice of Main Page status for Transhumanism as well. You should be quite gratified as the author with the most substantial contributions to the article.--StN 01:37, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

I also want to congratulate and thank you (and others too, but as stated above you've been a central person) for your work on this and related articles. Well done! ...And sorry that i've wikifaded and not recognized you sooner. "alyosha" (talk) 19:39, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

"Threats to morality and democracy" doesn't sound like my wording. I think it was yours. In any case, I think "freedom," an existential concept, might be better than "democracy," a political one, when contemplating the prospect of a Brave New World.StN (talk) 01:16, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Democratic Transhumanism

Thank you for your corrections of my edits on Democratic Transhumanism. I actually agree with your assessment of the situation. See the talk page of that article for more. --Danaman5 23:18, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

Great job on the article, it looks great now. See the talk there for more. --Danaman5 18:27, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

talk page slog out & apologies

Hi, now that I've regained my senses I realize I ve been a bit of an asshole on the Transhumanist talk page. I hope you will accept my apologies for being less than cordial.--Isolani 00:23, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Apologies accepted. --Loremaster 23:27, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Priory help?

Hey bro,

I just wrote a note on the Priory of Sion talk page about an inconsistency in the article I was hoping you would know how to address. I can take a shot in the dark but would prefer a more informed ruling.

By the way, I really like the bit on your user page about being a world citizen. It rings true. Thanks and peace,

CaliforniaKid 06:46, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

Done and thank you. --Loremaster 16:24, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

Biopunk movement

Thanks for the lead. I have now read the Newitz pieces, but it will take me a little time to decide how I would like to approach this.--StN 02:25, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

Take your time. I know you will do a good job. ;) --Loremaster 02:30, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

Desposyni

Revised and expanded your worthy article and would love to see what you make of it. Maybe if it is improved sufficently we can get it peer reviewed or as a featured article? Cheers, Fergananim 22:31, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Great work. Since I am too busy working on other projects, I am happy to see someone improving it. --Loremaster 04:50, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Roboticist

Thanks for the save on the Frankenstein complex article ... I have GOT to stop searching for just the plurals ... I'd left it that way hoping someone would add an article, but I guess I was just lazy and didn't search hard enough. :-)

Good work on Citizen Cyborg

(-: Procrastinating@^talk2me 10:00, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Thank you

My edit of GATTACA was the first I have made in Wikipedia. I'm not sure how I dropped the link on the word "invalid," but I'm glad you caught it and repaired it.

-Leo

See also

See also are a list, lists are worse then text. Wiki is not paper, we should have room to discuss all related issues, and see also, which rarely discuss the linked items, give little indication why they are relevant.-- _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk}  16:15, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Thank you, Piotrus. --Loremaster 19:02, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Simulated reality

Thanks for the note. Good to know people are actually out there. I enjoyed your article on Transhumanism.

Keep up the good work!

-Lord Volton, III, of House Florian.

Knights Templar

Hiya, I'm getting the ball rolling on a push towards FA status on the Knights Templar article. Steps will be:

• Requesting a review of its status from the Military History WikiProject (I submitted this one a few minutes ago)
• Peer Review
• Good Article nomination
• (assuming the above go well) Featured Article nomination

Interested in working together again? :) --Elonka 09:22, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Sure. I'll try to take a crack at it on Monday. :) --Loremaster 20:40, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Hiya, if you have time, could you pop in to the talk page? We're running into some POV questions, and I'd really appreciate a third opinion, from someone else who's familiar with the article's history. :) --Elonka 23:35, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Knights Templar is now officially at featured status, congratulations! I know that for the last part of the push, you haven't been able to help as much as you would have liked, but please rest assured that I have the utmost respect for your previous significant contributions to this article. You deserve to put the Template:FAstar star on your userpage. :) --Elonka 15:43, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for starting my user page!

Hi, Loremaster, I just want to say thanks for starting my user page. That was a pleasant surprise, and it was interesting to see yet another aspect of the behind-the-scenes efforts here. --Rich Janis 13:43, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Martine Rothblatt

Loremaster, great work on Martine_Rothblatt's article! Rothblatt commented over at the Immortality Institute forums about her views of Transbemanism if interested. Btw, I'm hoping to create an article on Ben Goertzel another transhumanist who recently delivered a Google TechTalk. If you'd like to collaborate, please email me at (support(@)agiri.org) for my latest draft. Regardless, I'd really appreciate your feedback on what I have thus far. 71.198.59.176 10:56, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Disability, Genetic Politics and Reproductive Technology

Dear Loremaster,

I am a PhD student at the University of Sheffield, conducting ESRC funded research into 'disability, genetic politics and reproductive technology'. I see that you are a regular contributor to the articles on transhumanism and human enhancement and I wondered if you'd like to take part in my research project? I believe you'll be able to make a valuable contribution. Before you decide, you should be aware of what this involves. I want to email you with a few simple questions on the topics of the research. These emailed questions will be sent in stages, over a period of weeks, and all of the identifying information you provide will be treated with confidentiality. The research findings will be disseminated amongst stake holders in the field and I would be happy to share these findings with you prior to any publications. If you are interested, you will find my contact details on my userpage. Feel free to get in touch should you have any questions. Your valuable contribution would be much appreciated.

Yours sincerely,

Nicholas 17:16, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Hi Loremaster, I'll be sure to contact Dr Hughes. Like you, I'll be away from the computer for a couple of days, until Monday. So there's no rush with regards to your potential participation. Thanks for your time. Nicholas 19:21, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Hi Loremaster, I hope everything is well with you. I would like to invite you to take part in a "research wiki". This is the second stage in the data collection process for my research project. The "research wiki" will be used because I'm interested to see how differing attitudes to the subject interact with each other, and I want to evaluate the potential for consensus in this area. I think the wiki is extremely useful in this context. It involves collaboration and sharing ideas amongst a group, and therefore it could help shed a light on especially contentious issues or areas of potential agreement. For further information please see this link. Best wishes --Nicholas 16:38, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Spanish version

Hi Loremaster. I am a user of the english and mostly spanish wikis. As you may have noticed the article on transhumanism has been promoted to FA status in the es:wp. I have taken part in this process as i have written-translated most of the article and secondary articles on several Transhumanist thinkers and concepts. For doing this I have based myself largely in articles written by you. I dont know if you understand spanish, but i would like to share views on the differences between the two versions with the aim of improving both. Best Regards.--Varano 13:55, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

Hello

		The Purple Star
		In recognition of the insults and other damage you received. As I think we all know by now, there is occasionally a price to be paid for acting with integrity. Thank you for having done so, despite the difficulties involved. John Carter 17:24, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

There are now evidently some results available regarding a related matter here. Thought you might like to know. Oh, yes, and on a completely unrelated matter, I have this seemingly random list of pages I would welcome your perhaps looking over, if you are so inclined. Joses, James the Just, John the Baptist, Pauline Christianity, Nazarene (sect), James Tabor, Robert Eisenman, Herod the Great, Essenes, Gospel of the Ebionites, Tiberius Iulius Abdes Pantera, Clopas, Mandaeism, Historicity of Jesus. There's no real rush on any of those, of course. Thanks again for all your efforts. John Carter 17:24, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Gattaca -- reactions

In response to your query, yes, I think the reactions section of the Gattaca article is quite a bit more balanced now. I made a couple of tiny wording mods to it, but I have no objection to how it now stands. atakdoug (talk) 21:16, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

wta-talk

Thought i'd share with you this ms i just posted to wta-talk (if you're not already on it). I thought about posting it to the article talk, but for now here feels better.

>>>>>>>> By coincidence, i finally got down my to-do list to an item i wanted to contribute to the WP transhumanism article. Meanwhile, there's all this negativity about the article (which is one thing, tho i disagree), and talk of scamming the system to force changes. That is disturbing to me. I agree with others that it's the low road. Thus it will not reflect well on WTA/>H. It also violates common respect for others and WP, and WP policies. And so it ultimately will not work, incl due to the resistance of WP editors, incl myself. With sincere respect and IMHO, some folks might want to consider the following:

• The article isn't that bad. Appreciate a good (enough) thing when it comes your way.
• There's plenty of opportunity to work on the article, *and fight fair if you need to*.
• To back up: learn how WP works. (Some are familiar with this, but some seem not to be.)
• WP is not the place to expect your personal/particular/favorite view of >H to be expressed -- it's going to be the sloppy semi-consensus of those who have worked recently and effectively on the article.
• Ditto re promoting >H or putting it in what you see as a positive light. WP is for a more neutral presentation. (See my first listed point.) We have our own media and means for promotion.

I'm not going to debate the details, or how good the article is, etc. I'd rather lurk these days, but i felt i had to say something about the scamming part.

Peace, alyosha <<<<<<<<<<

Support to you in keeping...hmm...what i'll call a protective but non-ownership even keel thru all this. "alyosha" (talk) 17:41, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

And I responded to yours. Please do not turn this into an edit war. I was about to integrate a few things as explained on my talk page message but you simply blank reverted. I will nonetheless proceed with my intended edits.

And after that I will also voice my opinion on the citations. Please be patient. Content is more important than form. Str1977 ^(talk) 20:51, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Sic NVM

That was a good catch/addition, seeing as how I'm sure someone would have been confused (legitimately or deliberately) without the name addition. --Human.v2.0 (talk) 15:51, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Jesus bloodline

Wow! I'm too busy to edit for awhile and some good work gets done while I am gone! Good work!!! Wednesday Next (talk) 17:11, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Loremaster, due to the continued edits to this article, I'd prefer to wait a bit before another copyedit to be sure it's stable. I'll keep an eye on it, but feel free to remind me. SlackerMom (talk) 14:13, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

OK, I don't have the time or energy to join the fray over this article, but my observation is that you are working very hard to do a good job on it and to keep it NPOV and balanced. I really can't figure out why your adversary is being so difficult, and you certainly haven't remotely done anything against Wikipedia policy that I can see. I just thought you could use a word of encouragement. SlackerMom (talk) 21:41, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your invitation of 6/24

I have been on a Wikibreak, since starting work at NewsTrust.net. I checked out the article in question, but did not have anything to add, as despite my interest in politics, I tend towards reading poetry and fiction. If i come across anything or have any spare time, though, I'll keep your project in mind. Cheers, --Beth Wellington (talk) 23:54, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

FYI

Wikipedia:Requests_for_checkuser/IP_check#Tile_join. Tim Vickers (talk) 19:40, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Wow! I never would have guessed that Wfgh66 was such a major puppetmaster. 532 sockpuppets!!!! Wednesday Next (talk) 19:49, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Although the number is stunning, I am not surprised in light of Wfgh66's fanaticism... --Loremaster (talk) 21:49, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Okay, yes, it was primarily the number that stunned me as well. Wednesday Next (talk) 21:51, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

On second thought, Paul Smith claims that he mostly uses a public computer so its possible and highly probable that the majority of these accounts belong to other people... --Loremaster (talk) 18:09, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Well, from reading around about the issues, it appears that checkuser showed that both he and the puppetmaster edit from multiple public sites and they happen to frequently edit from the same sites at the same time. If there were only one public site involved and he sometimes was at the same place at the same time, I'd believe it might be a case of mistaken identity. But apparently they have a pattern of moving around between sites together. That doesn't seem very likely to me... Wednesday Next (talk) 17:31, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Conflicting information about the date of usage of the word, "transhumanism"

I'm not particularly interested in creating an account at this time, but I thought you might like to know that the information regarding the first known use of the word, "transhumanism," in the introduction of the Transhumanism article does not match its source (2b). I would assume that it is a typo, but I stumbled upon the article coming from the page about Olaf Stapledon. That article lists the first appearance of the word as 1966, but a brief text search of the source reveals no mention of the word transhuman or the year 1966 except the date on quarterly or whatever it was.

I thought I would post this here so as not to muck up an article you have taken so much interest in. Hopefully, we won't be hearing about any high school essays with an incorrect date for the appearance of the word, "transhumanism." I hope this note is helpful to you and not too out of place. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.121.61.162 (talk) 09:26, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Re your message on User talk:Wednesday Next

Just a courtesy note since it seems you are unaware: this editor has been blocked as a sockpuppet of Ekajati. Coldmachine^Talk 21:57, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Hello, Loremaster. You have new messages at Coldmachine's talk page.
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Personal Attack

Hi there, just wanted to point out that I reverted a personal attack on your page (I won't leave the edit link in case you don't want to know) from a certain User:Lunar eclipse17. --RazorICE 08:14, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Appeal

I appealed against my ban - and so the Wikipedia User ID Wfgh66 got deleted and so the indefinite ban with it. Lunar eclipse17 (talk) 10:57, 21 October 2008 (UTC)