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About Philippine Governemnt Seals

Hello Future Perfect at Sunrise,

I was wondering if I could get your advice. See I was browsing city and town articles when I spotted some of their official seal's summary in the source description said's Own Work and also the author claimed by a user. I want to seek your advice. Is this really possible? ---- BrianZhukov ^{talk now!} 14:53, 3 July 2011 (UTC+8)

Image licensing

Dear Future Perfect, Anthony Nguyen is my name and that is my photo, however Moo-Hyun Kim is the director of the hospital in question and I am an employee of his. The image for the first file is his property, and he has asked me to upload it. Unfortunately he is not very computer literate, and I'm pretty sure he would be unable to do it. I'm unsure of how to license it appropriately. The other two flagged images are also hospital property, but we are unsure of how to get permission to use them. Please advise if possible.

- Anthony

Photograph Biswabijoy Sen.jpg

Hi this is a photograph which has been stylised using Nero Photo Snap viewer and useing the "Aging" effect. If required, I can send you the original image. Please consider

Deletion

Fut.Perf. Why are you so antagonistic about the article on Daniel Kanu, please am not Daniel Kanu am not a politician, am a programmer and on of his fans in Nigeria. There articles on him on independent sources on the web, he has contributed a lot for our democracy (talk)

ADI in which one editor is telling the initiator of the discussion not to edit further and for editors not to respond to her

At this noticeboard: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#Mugginsx.27s_demands_for_retraction User talk:La goutte de pluie has initiated the complaint about me again that she stated on noticeboard: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard#Reliable_sources.2C_not_the_.22truth.22 Section titled: Reliable sources, not the "truth" which you closed as unsubstantiated. She is also making other allegations and has notified CarolMooredc who has disagreed with me many times on the Death of Caylee Anthony article.

Now, another editor User talk:Cerejota has entered the discussion and has told editors to ignore La goutte de pluie's remarks and for La goutte de pluie to stop editing ON HER OWN ADI THAT SHE INITIATED AGAINST ME. Please see her comments here:

This is becoming a wall of text largely because Muggins and LGDP won't let other people speak. So purpose is being lost here. From the discussion and the points raised, it is clear to me that there are behavorial concerns regarding Mugginsx that are not LGDP's alone, and these need attention. I suggest, to allow this to continue, that LGDP refrain from further participation, as I think her point has been made. Can we then focus on the original complaint? Can we not discuss the content issues and focus on editor behavior? Can ANi regulars ignore that LGDP is participating here, and process this with respect?--Cerejota (talk) 15:12, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

When I reminded cerejota that is was La goutte de pluie that initiated the board and how could she tell her to stop editing and how could she tell other editors to ignore her, she stated:

Because it is not contributing to evaluating the merits of the original report, namely, about your own behavior. Also, your first comment is puzzling, I didn't say anything about complaints. --Cerejota (talk) 15:55, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

Can you please help me? Mugginsx (talk) 16:48, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

Hmm, to tell you the truth, Cerejota's approach appears pretty wise to me. Let me add that I really know nothing about the dispute you were involved in, about that court case (luckily, I live in a country where the case has not even been in the news), and I haven't looked into what went on on that talkpage, so I really have no idea if there's any merit to Goutte's complaint. It should be in your own interest to have people follow Cerejota's advice and try to look into it with an outside perspective and unprejudiced by whatever they think about Goutte (who obviously is currently not very popular on ANI). Fut.Perf. ☼ 16:56, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

How strange. She is not an administrator and I have never seen it before on any discussion board of any type. She has also recently been blocked for her behavior. Nevermind. I guess I will see how it goes. Mugginsx (talk) 18:35, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

Help with reason for tagging image for deletion

Can you help me out with why this image [1] is marked for deletion? Would really appreciate your help. I understand copyright, creative commons and so on, and thought I could easily provide an appropriate tag for this image, but find myself going around in circles with the "info" on Wikipedia. So, would appreciate your help if you can spare a moment. Cheers, Holon (talk) 12:18, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

Ah, right. Sorry you found it confusing (I agree our info system on these matters is sub-optimal). The thing is, you currently have provided info that aims in two contradictory directions. At one time you said there was no copyright attached to the image, but that is probably not the case, technically, because under current law, any photograph is automatically copyrighted. You also said you had the owner's permission for use on Wikipedia, but that is unfortunately not enough. What we need is an explicit, formal statement of a release under a free license. Note that this must include permission for free use not merely on Wikipedia but also elsewhere and for any purpose. Then, you used the tag for "non-free promotional" images, but that one won't help us either, because we can't use such images without a free release if they would in principle be replaceable by another, free image that could yet be created, even if it's released for promotional purposes. If you are in contact with the subject and they want this image to be used, the best thing practically will be if you ask them to please send in a licensing statement of their own to "permissions-en (at) wikimedia.org". It can be as short and simple as "I, the copyright holder of the image at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:DavidAndrich.tif, confirm that I release this image under the terms of the CreativeCommons Attribution ShareAlilke license (cc-by-sa)." Please just make sure they know what they are signing, i.e. that they are fine with the image being used in other venues too. – Fut.Perf. ☼ 12:29, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

By the way, I saw you also said elsewhere you felt frustrated about the unclear instructions. I can sort of sympathize. Actually just the other day I was toying with some ideas about how a system should work that would guide an uploader more clearly through the different decisions in uploading. May I use you as a kind of guinea pig for a few moments? Could you take a look at User:Future Perfect at Sunrise/Upload forms draft and tell me if it would have been helpful to you if the upload system had guided you through a sequence of pages with roughly that content? (Note it's not actually such a wizard yet, as the links are missing, but perhaps you'll get the idea of what I was trying to get at.) Thanks, – Fut.Perf. ☼ 12:38, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

Thanks very much, greatly appreciated. Yeah, I'm up for being a guinea pig with that one, so I'll check it out as soon as I have time and get back to you. I think it's likely I can get the subject to grant the permission, though perhaps I should load up a lower-res version as I tend to do with my own images when I put my (original) music online. So I assume I remove the "non-free promotional image" tag if and when the subject grants the permission, having understood what this means? Does this automatically tag the image? Yep, User:Future Perfect at Sunrise/Upload forms draft is most certainly far clearer than anything I located within about 15 mins before seeking your advice, at least in this instance. It does help that I know a bit about creative commons, though, so I don't know how someone would go with the Creative commons by-sa link to a full article, but I guess that can't be over-simplified. Again, thanks! Holon (talk) 13:03, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

Glad to be of help, and thanks for the feedback. I wonder if we will ever find a way of actually implementing this. They now have a new uploading system on Commons that does a few things similarly, but I haven't figured out how to adapt it to our needs. Fut.Perf. ☼ 14:30, 8 September 2011 (UTC)::

Sorry to bug you again. After a bit more confusion, I've now received and forwarded a message with the form you suggested to "permissions-en (at) wikimedia.org". I have now also included the template to say I've done this. That template states:

"An email containing details of the permission for this file has been sent in accordance with WP:OTRS.

Note to uploaders: Please copy the URL of this image or article in the email to assist OTRS volunteers to find it. If an email cannot be found in the OTRS system, the content may be deleted for lack of valid licensing information."

I assume the reference to the copy of the URL is as per your instructions, i.e. in the email to wimimedia.org. The note to uploaders seems badly worded to say the least. To what does "it" refer in the first sentence? It doesn't make sense to me that "it" could refer to the email. The second sentence seamlessly follows on with passive voice and object being the email. My best guess is that it means something like: "Please include the URL of this image or article in the email you send to Wikimedia.org to assist OTRS volunteers to find the evidence of permission. If this email cannot be found in the OTRS system, the content may be deleted for lack of valid licensing information". Is that right? Its guesswork for me to try to figure out whether I need to copy the URL of the image to another page or place. It's also guesswork for me to try to work out what is needed so that volunteers can find the email. Seems to me the message is a lesson in how not to write for Wikipedia! Not your problem, I realise, just hoping you'll help given it seems you have engaged in attempts to make these requirements clearer! Cheers, Holon (talk) 12:06, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

For the record, the above all worked out, and the template was automatically placed on the page. I presume my interpretation above was correct. Holon (talk) 04:04, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

Kostas Tournas deletion

Hi, I noticed that to my great surprise there was no Wikipedia article on "Kostas Tournas", a very well known Greek singer & composer. I tried to create one and noticed you had deleted a previously existing one, 5 years ago. I don't see a reason posted, so I assume there was a problem with the article itself, as a quick google search will reveal the notability of the person, right? Which means if I write a new one it will probably stay? Most sources of course are Greek, but that should be no problem if I read the rules correctly. Thanks Dkechag (talk) 16:38, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

Indeed. Apparently it was created in August 2006 and speedy-deleted by myself in November 2006 as a copyright violation. The entry in the deletion log says "copyvio (translated) from http://www.musiccorner.gr/biografies/tournas.html". You are very welcome to write a new one, I don't see any problem with that. Fut.Perf. ☼ 16:44, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

Notice

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.SarekOfVulcan (talk) 16:28, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

User:Arydberg

Hi FP,

I seem to remember something about this editor being topic banned from Aspartame articles but I cannot remember if it was a time limited topic ban or not. I noticed that you posted to his talk page before he wiped it and wanted to let you know that he is back at Talk:Aspartame controversy with the same old song as before. N^oformation ^Talk 10:45, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

Apparently it was only for three months. However, he can of course easily be banned again if it should become necessary. So far he hasn't been editing the article itself as far as I can see. Do you consider the talkpage contributions particularly disruptive? BTW, I also noticed there seem to be new accounts around that I don't remember, but I haven't looked more closely into it. Any problems with new socks / single-purpose accounts / meatpuppets etc.? Fut.Perf. ☼ 11:51, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

No nothing disruptive so far, just the one post complaining about WP's rules on sourcing, but I remember this user and what a pain he can eventually become and I'd bet that he's brought the exact point to the talk page in the past. As far as socks/meatpuppets go, no nothing more than usual. If Arydberg keeps it up I'll leave a friendly reminder of his history on the article and we can go from there. Thanks. N^oformation ^Talk 22:46, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

File:LTS Wallpapers 04 1280x1024.jpg

I thought I'd bring this to you attention after seeing it's non-free status. Sarujo (talk) 14:25, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

Thank you

	Quality Management Inspection Medal
	I, [Inspector] No. 108, am honored to award you this medal for your constructive and diligent contributions to the quality management inspection process. I appreciate your assistance in improving the "Stable Version" of the Byzantine Empire article. Always know that you have this humble inspector's gratitude and respect. Thank you. No. 108 (talk) 17:55, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

File:Hey Dude.jpg

Hi Fpas. Hope you're well. A user has contested the deletion of File:Hey Dude.jpg on my talk page at User_talk:Fastily#File:Hey_Dude.jpg. As an editor who participated in this discussion, your input would be appreciated. -FASTILY ^(TALK) 21:38, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

Twinkle

How am I abusing Twinkle 1. You WERE engaged in an edit war. 2. Gmac360 did add unsourced info to John Cena. 3. 2011typhoon was also in an edit war.

these warnings were NOT random --ChristianandJericho 10:45, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

This warning was clearly abusive (the person you "warned" had in fact been the object of quite bad personal attacks, but hadn't made any himself.) This makes no sense either. In any case, automated warnings are nonsense when a matter is already being taken care of at the admin noticeboards. You know, at a place where people express real advice and real warnings, individually. As for edit-warring warnings, they are also useless, when you can't even be bothered to spell out on what article it supposedly happened, and have evidently taken no time to understand the underlying dispute situation. There's also still the very sound advice of don't template the regulars. So, stop it. Now, see, this is an actual warning, the way it ought to be done. Fut.Perf. ☼ 10:52, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

Alright fine, I will just use twinkle when necessary --ChristianandJericho 10:55, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

Hi

I am Leny Ann Abraham(talk|contribs) 10:59, 12 September 2011 (UTC) the error is regretted.

Image licencing assistance required

Fpas, I've got a GA candidate at HMS Endymion (1865) which is on hold. One of the minor problems raised is licencing for some of the images. Do you have any suggestions as to which would be the correct licences? Mjroots (talk) 13:09, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

Can't tell you a lot, I'm afraid. For the "rounding Cape Horn" pic, even the Nautical Museum doesn't seem to know the biography of the painter. If I understand this correctly, it was donated to the museum in the 1930s and is believed to be from some time in the 19th century, but that unfortunately tells us nothing about the early publication history. Fut.Perf. ☼ 16:47, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

Well, at least I think I identified the painter; a royal navy lieutenant of that name (but spelled "Lillingston", not "Lillington") died in 1904. Fut.Perf. ☼ 17:04, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

Michael Jordan statue image move from commons

I created File:Michael Jordan Statue.jpg. I am a bit confused on how to properly document the prior information because although the page history shows it was uploaded by a user at 14:13, the file history says it was uploaded at 14:15 by a bot. Please advise.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 21:43, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

Ah, that's just the thing with "Flickr Upload Bot" – it's a system where a user can request the bot to do an upload for them. I wouldn't worry about those details here. You new upload looks fine. Fut.Perf. ☼ 22:01, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

Totalitarianism

Before this went out of control, would you mind to look at what is going on with Totalitarianism? Sorry to bother you, this has little to do with the Balkans, but I know you sort of (dis)like ledes with a good amount of , and this one is a particularly juicy example, and well-defended by a bunch of edit-warriors. The sourcing is somewhat dubious by itself, as usual in such cases. Colchicum (talk) 22:25, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

you were in this somehow before so...

[2]. Make of it what you will. Volunteer Marek  22:47, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

Edit-war relapse

User Voyevoda, whom you have blocked in the past is warring again, renaming a page [[3]] to reflect the Russian POV as the main. He also routinely inserts insult into edit summaries.--Galassi (talk) 22:05, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

Bulgarians

Hi, Future Perfect. I know you're currently busy at Macedonian language, but could you please take a look at Talk:Bulgarians#Bulgarian citizens in the Republic of Macedonia when you get a chance. Thanks. --Local hero ^talk 13:57, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

Deletion of User:Poeticbent/Richard Tylman

I challenge this. Please use WP:MFD instead of a speedy. Thank you, --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me} 16:20, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

I had a reason for doing it quietly and quickly. I don't think having a big debate about it right now would be in anybody's best interest. BTW, I'm currently in e-mail contact with Pb. Fut.Perf. ☼ 16:22, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

I think I see why, per my previous edit. I agree we may want to wait with MfD, and if you are in a contact with him, his wishes could be important here. But without knowing more (you may want to ask Pb. if he would like me cc-id on the conversation, perhaps), I'd stress that I treat Pb. as a user who was unjustly treated by the system, harassed (primarily through abuse on the page you just deleted, in good faith, I agree), and who created lot of constructive content (up to and including GAs) before he left. As such, we need to make an effort to bring him back to the project, not to put him through another inquisition based on flaky evidence. I'd hope that you are being friendly to him in the emails. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me} 16:33, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

3RR

Hello. You are always very resolute concerning 3RR. User:Vitaly N. already made 4 reverts in the article Ukrainians not to speak of deleting sourced information or of hidden threats [4], [5]. Please prove that you have no double standards. --Voyevoda (talk) 20:08, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

Ukrainians need help if fight against vandalism on the Wikipedia! Ukrainians are presented as they are not a nation but multiethnic part of the Russian people and thats open border with fascism on Wikipedia. There is no similar examples when it comes to articles on other nations. Several well known users such as Voyevoda are persistent in these efforts to show that Ukrainians are not separate nation. At the same time reliable information is deleted and replaced with the interpretations without a source or unreadable sources. Almost every trace of Ukrainians in Russia's history has been cleared and lot's of Ukrainian artist referred to only as a Russian (with my respect to Russians). Users of this work are obviously in anti Ukrainian mood to such an extent that they intentionally write untruth or deliberately erase the facts and finaly damage the work of Wikipedia as an objective media. My suggestion is to devote greater attention to articles related to the Ukrainians and Ukrainian culture in general. Administrators should especially pay attention to several users who are falsely presenting themselves as neutral - Voyevoda is great example of that! Their hatred of Ukrainians is obvious and I do not need to name them. They are very familiar with their unhonest work! I hope that administrators will begin to act and punish those users who spread hatred among the peoples! This sentences were previously wroted by user SeikoEn and I am totally suporting his honest work and toughts! Thanks for further help!--Vitaly N. (talk) 20:16, 15 September 2011 (UTC)