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Not a single
No need for Avill box as it not a single by Avill it only on limited edtions. In fact is was never going to be on Avill album. stop making the page messy. The article already says it an avill cover no need for more. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.153.1.49 (talk) 15:23, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
Notability
Didn't Avril have her own page for this song? I'm trying to look for it but it only takes me to Leona's...was it deleted? 68.164.133.198 (talk) 23:11, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
- "I Will Be" did not meet the notability threshold before it was released as a single by Leona Lewis. See the notability threshold for songs:
- "Most songs do not rise to notability for an independent article and should redirect to another relevant article, such as for the songwriter, a prominent album or for the artist prominently performed the song. Songs that have been ranked on national or significant music charts, that have won significant awards or honors or that have been performed independently by several notable artists, bands or groups are probably notable."
- So this page would not exist if the song had not been released as a single -- it's notability owing to the latter, not the former. But we should be clear that the song was co-written by Avril. The article correctly records this information. Dynablaster (talk) 19:23, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
"Vocals - Leona Lewis"
In the Credits and personnel section, it says "Vocals - Leona Lewis". It does not also say "Vocals - Avril Lavigne". That is sort of strange given that the article starts out saying this song was indeed also released by Avril Lavigne. In the Reception section there is a quote from Billboard magazine, that talks, among other things, about a "killer vocal". However, it doesn't state whose vocal this quote refers to. That is also confusing since, as I mentioned, the article states that this song was released by two different vocalists. --95.34.4.6 (talk) 23:57, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
- There's no much information about the original version, the maojority of the info here is about Lewis, since she released the song as single. TbhotchTalk C. 23:58, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Charts box
Why does it say "Leona Lewis version"?? its obvious it is, its on the article of her single! lolcalvin999 (talk) 02:14, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
- I've removed it. AnemoneProjectors 09:05, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
Single?
I've looked on the US and Canadian iTunes Stores and "I Will Be" isn't listed anywhere as a single. Should it be changed to a song template instead? Aaron • You Da One 16:25, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
Digital Songs
- http://www.billboard.com/#/charts/digital-songs?chartDate=2009-02-21&order=gainer Aaron • You Da One 12:42, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
DYK nomination
Single?
Considering that multiple pages call this a single, including Spirit and Template:Leona Lewis, should not be labeled as song elsewhere? Tbhotch.™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 19:29, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
- I've posted this a few sections above. I went on the US and Canada iTunes, and it wasn't released as a single to download. Therefore, no release date. Aaron • You Da One 19:30, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
- But again, should not be delisted as single from Spirit (Leona Lewis album) (and add a note considering how obnoxious the IP editors are), from Template:Leona Lewis, Book:Leona Lewis, LL songs, LL discography, etc.? Tbhotch.™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 19:38, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
- Also, I found this at Spirit. Tbhotch.™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 19:40, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
- A magazine saying it's a single isn't enough. There's not release date. Unless a source can be found for it being release to mainstream and A/C radio?? Aaron • You Da One 19:45, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
- 2009 1/6 Mainstream. Tbhotch.™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 19:59, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
- OKay, that can be used then. Obviously wasn't a download song. Aaron • You Da One 20:02, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
- 2009 1/6 Mainstream. Tbhotch.™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 19:59, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
- A magazine saying it's a single isn't enough. There's not release date. Unless a source can be found for it being release to mainstream and A/C radio?? Aaron • You Da One 19:45, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
- Also, I found this at Spirit. Tbhotch.™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 19:40, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
- But again, should not be delisted as single from Spirit (Leona Lewis album) (and add a note considering how obnoxious the IP editors are), from Template:Leona Lewis, Book:Leona Lewis, LL songs, LL discography, etc.? Tbhotch.™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 19:38, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
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Reviewer: Rp0211 (talk · contribs) 17:55, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
- It is reasonably well written.
- It is factually accurate and verifiable.
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- It is broad in its coverage.
- a (major aspects):
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- Fair representation without bias:
- It is stable.
- No edit wars, etc.:
- It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
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Infobox
- Genre only includes R&B in infobox, but it lists adult contemporary, pop rock, and contemporary R&B as the genres in the "Composition" section
- I mean't to remove R&B. No cited by reviewers. You only include a genre in the info box if a reviewer has stated it. Those three draws are what it draws influence from, as noted on Musicnotes.com. Therefore, not reviewers. Aaron • You Da One
- Now there isn't any genre, which is needed by any song article. Rp0211 (talk2me)
- Not if there isn't a sourced genre by a reviewer. Aaron • You Da One
- Now there isn't any genre, which is needed by any song article. Rp0211 (talk2me)
- Is there any source to verify that she recorded the song in 2007?
- The album was released in 2007, and the album booklet has the song in it. Aaron • You Da One
- Include locations that song was recorded according to "Production and recording" section
- Won't the info box be realllllllllllly long though?? Aaron • You Da One
- You can make it so that it can say something like "See this section" or something to that affect. Rp0211 (talk2me)
- Done Aaron • You Da One
- You can make it so that it can say something like "See this section" or something to that affect. Rp0211 (talk2me)
Lead
- It was also co-produced by Steven Wolf and Max Beckley and Smit. → Make it "...Steven Wolf, Max Beckley, and Smit."
- I think that "Max Beckley and Smit" is his full name, because there is nobody called "Smit" in the booklet. Tbhotch.™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 02:25, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
- It is a piano and guitar led song, and draws influence from the musical genres of Adult contemporary music, Pop rock and Contemporary R&B. → Change "and draws influence from the music genres of Adult contemporary music, Pop rock and Contemporary R&B" to "and draws influence from adult contemporary, pop rock, and contemporary R&B genres"
- Done. Tbhotch.™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 02:25, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
- It garnered a mixed response from music critics; while some praised Lewis' vocal performance and delivery, others described it as emotionless. → Replace semicolon with comma; Replace "while some praised" with "with some critics praising..."; Add "while" in front of "others"
- Done. Tbhotch.™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 02:25, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
Production and recording
- Lewis covered the song, and was originally performed by Lavigne..." → Rephrase this sentence to make the prose flow better
- I think I did it. Tbhotch.™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 02:49, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
- ...including Conway Recording Studios, Los Angeles, CA; Henson Recording Studios, Hollywood, CA; Dr. Luke's personal recording studio in New York City; Opra Music, Hollywood CA; Ocean Way Recording, Hollywood, CA; Westlake Recording Studios, Los Angeles, CA; Atlantic Studios, Stockholm, Sweden; Sarm West, London, England. → Use commas as it is in a list; List the recording studios like "Conway Recording Studios in Los Angeles, Hensen Recording Studios in Hollywood..."
- Comma's won't clearly separate them though. You're mean't to use a semi-colon. Aaron • You Da One
Composition
- ...which lasts for a duration of 3:58 (3 minutes, 58 seconds).[7] → Get rid of "3:58" and put "3 minutes, 58 seconds" out of parentheses
- Already done. Tbhotch.™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 02:49, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
- It incorporates elements of Adult contemporary music, Pop rock and Contemporary R&B genres.[6] → Change to "elements of adult contemporary, pop rock, and contemporary R&B genres"
- Already done. Tbhotch.™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 02:49, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
Critical reception
- Combine this section with the "Composition" section
- They don't really go together. I made the Critical reception and Chart performance sections sub-sections under a Response section instead, as they go together more and it's more common to do that in articles. Aaron • You Da One 22:43, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
Chart performance
- No issues
Promotion
- No issues
Credits and personnel
- No issues
Charts
- No issues
Release history
- No issues
References
- No issues
After thoroughly reviewing this article, I have decided to put it on hold at this time. I will give you the general seven days to fix these mistakes and/or address issues which you believe do not concern good article status. If you have any questions, please feel free to ask. Rp0211 (talk2me) 20:28, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
- Since all issues have been addressed, I feel confident passing this article. Congratulations and keep up the good work! Rp0211 (talk2me) 00:43, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks. Aaron • You Da One 10:30, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
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