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Hello. I am Rhett Lawrence, the record producer, and I corrected some things and added some relevant details on this article which you appear to have reverted. Since I was there, I think what I have to contribute would be considered important and first-person accurate. I am new to Wikipedia. If something was done incorrectly, what can we do to fix the article and not have it randomly reverted by someone who was not there? Thanks |
Hello. I am Rhett Lawrence, the record producer, and I corrected some things and added some relevant details on this article which you appear to have reverted. Since I was there, I think what I have to contribute would be considered important and first-person accurate. I am new to Wikipedia. If something was done incorrectly, what can we do to fix the article and not have it randomly reverted by someone who was not there? Thanks |
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:I've just had a close look at your last 250 edits, EE. It's interesting. Of the 250, every single edit was on a topic relating to pop music or videogames, except for these: |
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:* Three edits on 19 May to [[Anastasia (1997 film)]] |
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:* One edit to Paris, Ontario |
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:* One [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Milk&diff=prev&oldid=53165144 edit] to Milk |
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:* Five edits to [[Butter]] and three to [[Black pepper]] on 16 May. There are both featured articles mostly written by myself. |
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:* Two image-fiddling edits to [[S. A. Andrée's Arctic balloon expedition of 1897]] today and one to [[Talk:S. A. Andrée's Arctic balloon expedition of 1897]]. This article is mostly written by Bishonen. |
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:This is a hair's-breadth from stalking. If you want to develop broader editing interests, I recommend it, but find some way of doing it other than hounding articles that you know Bishonen or Bunchofgrapes follow closely. —[[User:Bunchofgrapes|Bunchofgrapes]] ([[User talk:Bunchofgrapes|talk]]) 18:41, 21 May 2006 (UTC) |
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Billboard access
You asked me if I had any access to full U.S. Billboard Hot 100 charts, and to tell you the truth I do not. I do, however, have very good sources. User:207.177.124.156|207.177.124.156]] | talk 21:43, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
Ok, I'll see what I can do, and if I cannot find it, sorry in advance! User:207.177.124.156|207.177.124.156]] | talk 15:18, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
Revert Tsavage comment in "We Belong..."
I restored the addition to my comment...under my username. I afterwards glanced at the History, saw the IP # and realized you probably thought it was someone else helpfully expanding on my objection. Well, in fact that was me. I keep getting logged out lately, and didn't notice. Please ignore the edit summary comment (it was unexcitingly polite anyway...). --Tsavage 00:18, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
- No problem. Except that I didn't think they were expanding on your objection. I thought it was an IP address including vandalism which then I reverted the edit as established by Wikipedia:Vandalism. —Eternal Equinox | talk 00:27, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
Hey, no I think your fair use rationale is well written. When I went to go check on the image today I realized someone had re-uploaded the image and had removed its original fair use write up. I agree the article should include some more information on her performances and what critics said. I'll try to find some articles on it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Underneath-it-All (talk • contribs)
- When I have the time, I will continue tidying the article and improving the writing. —Eternal Equinox | talk 19:30, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks so much for your help. It's much appreciated. — Underneath-it-All 20:12, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
Do not add material to an article or create an article without crediting the users who worked on the original material. Also, per WP:MUSIC/SONG guidelines, very short song articles shouldn't be created, especially when the album article is short as well. Extraordinary Machine 22:51, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
- "Without crediting the users who worked on the original material" — unfortunately, this line confuses me. Also, there are several other articles on Wikipedia presented with limited information. The principle reason for creating the article was that the image of the CD single wasn't deleted without warning. I haven't read the Music/Song guidelines, so I'm unaware of the notes within. I know that you will be writing and expanding "A Thousand Miles" eventually but I took the initiative of creating the article and, unless I'm wrong or haven't read a specific policy, anyone is allowed to create an article. —Eternal Equinox | talk 00:20, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
- Anybody can create an article, yes. However, nobody can contribute to an article or create an article using material from elsewhere on Wikipedia without crediting the original authors by mentioning in the edit summary where it came from. That is a violation of the GFDL license under which all Wikipedia contributions fall; as the article was technically a copyright violation at the state of its creation, it qualified for speedy deletion. "It was co-produced and co-arranged by Carlton and Ron Fair [...] and was one of the most popular songs of the year. The music of the song is supported by a full orchestral arrangement and its lyrics reflect the protagonist who pines for her lover, whom she has separated from." - this material, which you started the article with, was taken almost word-for-word from the edit history of my sandbox area here. If you had started the article with something you had written yourself then I wouldn't have a problem, but instead you chose to plagiarise my work. Extraordinary Machine 15:12, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, you are right, I should have asked, and therefore, I apologize. Please do not take this as insulting toward you or I purposely ignored you, it had been that I was merely in a rush to avoid the image being deleted. I will stray from your sandbox unless I am interested in a topic you are writing. Please excuse my rudeness and do not let this effect you personally. Again, my sincere apologies. —Eternal Equinox | talk 22:23, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
- Apology accepted. I didn't create it because I wanted it to be perfect before it went live. Just remember to mention in the edit summary where you got material from if you didn't write it yourself. Also, I missed the article's stint on the Main Page, but I don't really mind. Extraordinary Machine 19:14, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, you are right, I should have asked, and therefore, I apologize. Please do not take this as insulting toward you or I purposely ignored you, it had been that I was merely in a rush to avoid the image being deleted. I will stray from your sandbox unless I am interested in a topic you are writing. Please excuse my rudeness and do not let this effect you personally. Again, my sincere apologies. —Eternal Equinox | talk 22:23, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
- Anybody can create an article, yes. However, nobody can contribute to an article or create an article using material from elsewhere on Wikipedia without crediting the original authors by mentioning in the edit summary where it came from. That is a violation of the GFDL license under which all Wikipedia contributions fall; as the article was technically a copyright violation at the state of its creation, it qualified for speedy deletion. "It was co-produced and co-arranged by Carlton and Ron Fair [...] and was one of the most popular songs of the year. The music of the song is supported by a full orchestral arrangement and its lyrics reflect the protagonist who pines for her lover, whom she has separated from." - this material, which you started the article with, was taken almost word-for-word from the edit history of my sandbox area here. If you had started the article with something you had written yourself then I wouldn't have a problem, but instead you chose to plagiarise my work. Extraordinary Machine 15:12, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
Don't play games
Don't play games. This is not up to you. Of course Raul654 supports my action, or I would hardly have undertaken it. I'm serious: you're banned from WP:FAC, and I want to see better behavior when you return. Feel free to remove my messages on your page; that tells me you've read them. Better not touch the one on Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates, though. And please note that I'm by no means talking only about your removal of Bcrowell's messages, as inappropriate as that was. (Hello? "Assume good faith"? You used to be big on that.) Please reread my original message if you want to know what else. Then read the nomination discussion, if you want specific examples. Don't ask me to point stuff out. That's been your theme-song on FAC, and it's over: do your own work. Bishonen | ノート 23:04, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
- Other administrators support your three-week FAC ban, not just Bishonen. You already know Raul654 does. Now you know I do as well. The ban remains in place, and enforceable. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 00:11, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
- I'm sure they do support the ban, with the lies they have been fed. It doesn't matter. Following this situation, should Bishonen appear in my face and "ban" me once again, especially when she is clearly in the minority, I'll open an RFC. —Eternal Equinox | talk 02:50, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
Help
Thank you, that's very nice of you to offer your services. I'm not an administrator no. However, I feel a break from editing is required. I may return soon. Ultimate Star Wars Freak 20:06, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
DYK
On [[Wikipedia:Recent_additions/2016/September#A Thousand Miles 2016|A Thousand Miles 2016]], Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Example, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Error: Invalid time.&end=Error: Invalid time.&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Example Example), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Is
I've come across multiple textbooks and paperbacks insisting that the word "is" is not capitalized in the titles of books, reports, documents, etc.; yet I've also uncovered several encyclopedias and biographies—although the biographies were of little use—which believe "is" should be capitalized in this case. While I conducted a worldwide-web search, I came across different theories which are likely to have come from anonymous and constant contributers of separate websites, but I've drawn the conclusion that I am officially confused. Even though you explained that the common majority of manuals read "is" as capital, I am no longer positive about whether it is one or the other. Are you aware of any books and/or websites where I can investigate? —Eternal Equinox | talk 21:59, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
Not your fault
Not your fault at all. Don't worry about it; keep up the good work. Everyking 23:17, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
- OK, my e-mail should now be confirmed, so I think it'll work. I guess I'll need to start communicating through e-mail more often anyway, considering all the restrictions on what I can say on-wiki. Everyking 12:10, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
Spice Girls...thanks for your help
Hi!
Thanks for your helping RE: the Geri Halliwell article!
I've had quite a few problems with that particular user, yet he seems to be in a minority of one on most issues! Love to work together on the articles - I recently re-wrote the entire Spice Girls page, so hopefully I'm going to start on the solo pages just as soon as I get some free time...so if you wanna do it together, that'll be great :)...
Hotwiki has continued to vandalise though - reversing back your last edit. What do you think is the best way to report users like that? Admin? I've already taken steps against him - and it seems like I'm not the only one to complain about him....
xx Rimmers 19:17, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, an admin would be favourable. His attitude needs to meet Wikipedia:Civility, which it certainly does at specific times, however, is very negative on an all-around basis. We could always open an RFC, but it's a bit too early for that. He should be reported for now. —Eternal Equinox | talk 20:50, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
- Hi - just to let you know i've contacted an Admin about the situation; if you would like to contribute to the complaint then feel free - it can be found at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Premeditated_Chaos#Help_needed_please . If the admin has more imput from other users then hopefully it will give her a clearer account... Rimmers 01:15, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
The offer...
...is to unban you, on certain conditions, which I'd rather explain by e-mail, and have done so. Bishonen | ノート 21:25, 23 March 2006 (UTC).
- All right, I will respond through e-mail. —Eternal Equinox | talk 21:31, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
Canadian chart
What I used is this. Unfortunately that only gives the present week. I had to record them week by week as it happened; I don't know of any archives. Everyking 04:36, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
- I also access that website, so it won't be of much help. Thank you nonetheless. —Eternal Equinox | talk 13:28, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
Re: Supernature
I can try to find sales figures, but I know that the album has not been certified in either country which makes it even harder to find sales information. I'll try searching again tomorrow. — Underneath-it-All 06:16, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, thank you. I'm going to keep looking out for the figures as well. Do you by chance own Supernature? As long as it can be certified gold in Canada, at least we'll have a distinct idea of its sales. —Eternal Equinox | talk 13:29, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
- I brought the import version when it came out in Europe because I couldn't wait four or five months until it came out in Canada. I think we'll just have to wait a while before we know any sales figures, especially for it to become certified. It was just recently released and charted in the lower end of the albums chart, so it might be able to be certified, but I'd give it some time. — Underneath-it-All 13:35, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
- My girlfriend also bought the imported version because she was also unable to wait, but perhaps I could go out and purchase the edition with "Beautiful". After all, I am a fan too. Yes, it's true, we'll have to wait some time. Do you know what position Supernature is at this week on the Canadian albums chart? It's difficult to locate since the chart is only comprised of the top 100. —Eternal Equinox | talk 13:38, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
- I couldn't wait to buy it either but then of course I re-bought the DVD deluxe edition when the North American release came out. It's really cool (no surprise) - lotsa videos! Plus I bought "Number 1" video from iTunes to watch on my iPod. Woohoo! -- eo 15:03, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
- My girlfriend also bought the imported version because she was also unable to wait, but perhaps I could go out and purchase the edition with "Beautiful". After all, I am a fan too. Yes, it's true, we'll have to wait some time. Do you know what position Supernature is at this week on the Canadian albums chart? It's difficult to locate since the chart is only comprised of the top 100. —Eternal Equinox | talk 13:38, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
- I brought the import version when it came out in Europe because I couldn't wait four or five months until it came out in Canada. I think we'll just have to wait a while before we know any sales figures, especially for it to become certified. It was just recently released and charted in the lower end of the albums chart, so it might be able to be certified, but I'd give it some time. — Underneath-it-All 13:35, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
I found some articles that have some information about the making of the album. Both articles contain information of the recording process. Hopefully their helpful:
- Underneath-it-All 16:00, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
- Here's another article:
- Keyboard Magazine - this article discusses the technology that they used in the studio.
— Underneath-it-All 23:18, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
- Thank you for the barnstar!! If you need anything else just let me know. — Underneath-it-All 23:25, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
- I may have missed it in one of the references you've provided, but are there any articles that provide extensive look on the writing process between Alison and Will? You're welcome! :) —Eternal Equinox | talk 23:27, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
- Thank you for the barnstar!! If you need anything else just let me know. — Underneath-it-All 23:25, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
The CMJ article talks about where they recorded the album and the writing process. It's near the end I believe. — Underneath-it-All 23:34, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
- Would it be possible for you to create the article Train (Goldfrapp song)? —Eternal Equinox | talk 23:55, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
- The version I have with "Beautiful" on it runs 48 minutes, without the song it runs 43.10. — Underneath-it-All 21:41, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
I got the chart information from Top40-Charts.com, which may be incorrect as I recently noticed that some of the charts have not been updated in a long time and that charts from certain countries are wrong. — Underneath-it-All 23:08, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, it is likely that the information is incorrect. I am going to replace it with the data from the MariahCharts website. —Eternal Equinox | talk 23:54, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
- I agree. The "Making of the album" section is complete. I think you did a wonderful job on it and that's it's well written. I don't think any other references are required. — Underneath-it-All 04:04, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
I know they did a wide variety of tv performances in the UK such as CD:UK, TRL and T4. To promote the release of "Number 1" in the U.S. they did a special performance at the Nokia Theatre in New York. A good site to check out which has tons of information of promotional performances and magazine and such is goldfrapp.free.fr. — Underneath-it-All 18:49, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
Sloppy work
My dear, I really think it's time to leave well alone - don't you? This is all so tedious and tiresome. I can feel myself becoming quite agitated over it all. Such a pity if your new found freedom over the site became an empty hollow victory. Time to move on to editors new I think - I'm sure your admirable talents will be appreciated amongst new subjects and a new crowd. I shall watch your progress on the site with interest. Good luck for the future. Regards Giano | talk 21:48, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
Gone
Just to let you know, I'm taking an extended Wikibreak. I can no longer participate fully. Not Anymore. Take care of "We Belong Together" for me. If you have any issues, you know my email. Peace. Oran e (t) (c) (e) 02:24, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
In the Mariah Carey article, I was wondering if you could identify what year the image was taken, that is if you can? Thank you. —Eternal Equinox | talk 13:27, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
- Oh, and thanks for catching this. :) —Eternal Equinox | talk 13:29, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
I'm afraid I don't know what year that image is from. Extraordinary Machine 17:11, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
- If that is the case, then do not worry. It was merely my curiosity. —Eternal Equinox | talk 01:38, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
Goldfrapp!
(As you already know) Supernature (Goldfrapp album) recently acheived good article status after being nominated. The article was passed because:
- Very good references
- Well researched
- A pleasure to read
I can't say enough good things about this article, Highway 06:57, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
Song and album titles are not exempt from Wikipedia's naming conventions. Extraordinary Machine 20:49, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
- I'm not sure. If appears as though thorough references were provided, but as I said, if it is stated by the naming conventions, it will remain in proper English. Thank you. On a different note, and excuse me if I'm acting too fishy, but are you perhaps located in Europe? —Eternal Equinox | talk 20:51, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
I noticed that the talk page for I'm With You has been deleted. —Eternal Equinox | talk 20:01, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
- Yeah, I saw that. So much for the "merge"... ;) RadioKirk talk to me 20:10
, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
WBT FAC
Good! I personally think it's better to concentrate efforts on one thing at a time and if possible try to figure out something like a "magic formula" so it gets easier in future nominations. Everyking 04:38, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
- Per Wikipedia:Hatnotes, disambiguation links shouldn't be put at the top of articles when the subjects of each article are highly related and when the link is present in the article itself.
- There isn't a reference for the album Mariah Carey staying at the top of the U.S. charts for eleven weeks (and some of the already present references report different numbers of weeks), so it's better to just leave it at "several". Extraordinary Machine 16:17, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
- Could you please point out some of the references that discuss the different number of weeks Mariah Carey spent at the top of the U.S. Billboard 200? Also, I'm hoping for you to nominate the article here very soon. :) —Eternal Equinox | talk 01:10, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
- Marc Shapiro's Carey biography reports a different amount of weeks, as does another source that I can't remember at the moment. By the way, your unexplained reverts at Cool (song) are not appreciated; at least have the courtesy to reply at Talk:Cool (song). Extraordinary Machine 18:41, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
Thanks
Thanks for the beer! Good luck with your FAC. -- getcrunkjuicecontribs 20:40, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
Your request
I'm replying here since you request it, but I hope you're aware that posts on my page get read by many people, including individuals I have specifically advised you to stay away from; it's on a lot of watchlists and gets a lot of traffic. To put your HW talk on it seems almost like a deliberate provocation, and I really have to quote Everyking, of all people: Don't be so strange. But since you insist on bringing these things up so publicly, I'll tell you how I see it: your recent edit warring at Cool tends IMO more to imply that you're Winnermario than that you're HW... if you see a distinction there. You ought to pull in your horns on that article. As for me commenting on WBT on FAC, I'll see. I'm pretty tired of seeing WBT brought back to FAC at such indecently short intervals, and also pretty tired of getting flamed at the slightest opportunity by Tsavage getting hold of some improbable end of some far-fetched stick (that's no fault of yours, but I'm still tired of it). Also, since all I've ever gotten in return for FAC advice on WBT has been suspiciousness and nagging from you and Journalist, I can't say it's an inspirational task to me, though I take your word for it that you mean to do better this time. And, finally, I have no personal interest in the type of subject. But I'll see. Bishonen | börk börk börk 20:50, 2 April 2006 (UTC).
My return
I've semi-returned, sort of. My anger is now gone. My mood is lifted because I got accepted to York University and Ryerson University, with offers for scholarships if I maintain my 90% avg (The pressure's on). I'll be semi-active though. Oran e (t) (c) (e) 0==3:13, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
- Do you know if Cruz was able to get into the university? Last time I checked, his average dropped to an 89%. —Eternal Equinox | talk 19:37, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
- We Belong Together had been nominated again, but Raul654 removed it because he believed it had spent "too much time at FAC". I'm not sure I believe this. Bulbasaur and even Céline Dion spent astronomical time periods at FAC even during their second and third times. I wonder if someone else is the result of his decision. —Eternal Equinox | talk 00:17, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
- Let's assume good faith here. I highly doubt that he did it to spite anyone, or was influenced by someone else. I really understand and respect his decision. Let's just wait a while; theres no point in speculating or accusing. Oran e (t) (c) (e) 00:31, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
- We Belong Together had been nominated again, but Raul654 removed it because he believed it had spent "too much time at FAC". I'm not sure I believe this. Bulbasaur and even Céline Dion spent astronomical time periods at FAC even during their second and third times. I wonder if someone else is the result of his decision. —Eternal Equinox | talk 00:17, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
Thank you
Thank you for your vote of confidence in my recent request for bureaucratship. Even though it didn't pass, I greatly appreciate your support and hope I will continue to have your respect. Thank you! Flcelloguy (A note?) 23:01, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
- You were the first to welcome me and now the first to give me a star. The world would be a nicer place if there were more like you in it. - Maria202 03:02, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
Cover artwork
I love the cover of "Fly Me Away". It's so different from what they have done in the past. It's supposed to relate to the music video which should be interesting as it includes Alison being played as an animated doll. I also heard its supposed to have a carnival-like theme. I can't wait to see it! — Underneath-it-All 20:16, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
- Do you know of any websites it will premiere on? I am positive that it won't be receiving much rotation in North America, if any at all. —Eternal Equinox | talk 20:19, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
- Not sure as of right now, but Mute will probably show it as well as Goldfrapp's official site. — Underneath-it-All 20:21, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
- I hope that it appears on one of the websites. If you are capable of collecting more information, please don't refrain from telling me. :) —Eternal Equinox | talk 20:23, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
- Not sure as of right now, but Mute will probably show it as well as Goldfrapp's official site. — Underneath-it-All 20:21, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
re: Ooh La La
Dunno where it will be on next week's dance chart yet... won't know til Billboard publishes the new charts on Thursday. I expect it will hit number one, but hae no idea if it will happen next week. It needs to jump over "Oh Yeah Oh Six" by Yello, which was number two and has been moving up rather quickly as well. We'll see, right? -- eo 20:18, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, I suppose we will see by Thursday. It will definitely be number-one on the Canadian dance chart, which it ascended even quicker on than the Billboard dance chart (imagine a forty-five to nineteen jump!). —Eternal Equinox | talk 20:20, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
- Well, it's number two this week. It had better not stop there. I'm not a Billboard-reporting DJ but I have friends who are. I'll bug them this week to chart it high on their lists :-P -- eo 15:21, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
- You have friends who "work" with Billboard? A very unique profession, in my opinion. Anyway, I do believe it will reach the top. The song is definitely a club-killer. :) —Eternal Equinox | talk 19:33, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
- Well, it's number two this week. It had better not stop there. I'm not a Billboard-reporting DJ but I have friends who are. I'll bug them this week to chart it high on their lists :-P -- eo 15:21, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
Some Goldfrapp news
Hey, the Goldfrapp fansite Goldfrapp.Free.Fr. has posted some pictures and a sound sample of the single version of "Fly Me Away". The press release sheet that came with the promo states that the band will be touring North America in the fall, which is exciting because I would love to see them live. Here's the link. — Underneath-it-All 02:43, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
- Hello, thanks for the link and the information. I'd also love to see Goldfrapp live in concert, and I'm sure it wouldn't be difficult purchasing tickets considering their fan-base is relatively low here. Excellent discovery, thank you so much. —Eternal Equinox | talk 20:15, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
I'm With You
I noticed that the talk page for I'm With You has been deleted. —Eternal Equinox | talk 20:01, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
- Yeah, I saw that. So much for the "merge"... ;) RadioKirk talk to me 20:07, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
- Well, what is going to be done then? Please respond on my talk page, thank you. —Eternal Equinox | talk 19:48, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
- Argh, shoot, I forgot all about that. I was going to leave a message with User:Extraordinary Machine to see if he was up on it; I'm mid-article right now so I can do it later, or you can, if you'd prefer. If so, please keep me up on it. :) RadioKirk talk to me 19:57, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
- Here's what the deletion log for the talk page says:
- 01:27, April 6, 2006 Admrboltz deleted "Talk:I'm With You" (The given reason is: This page needs to be temporarily deleted to perform a history merge (CSD G6). The page to be merged here is Talk:I'm with You. Please also check Wikipedia:Cut and paste move repair holding pen for possible explanation of complex case)
- Hope that helps. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 20:01, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, I did check the edit history to see whether the deletion of the talk page was understandable or not, but what I fail to intrepert is why the correct version had been removed over the inaccurate. —Eternal Equinox | talk 20:07, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
- Well, what is going to be done then? Please respond on my talk page, thank you. —Eternal Equinox | talk 19:48, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
Mariah Carey
Saucy. Since I'm bored with editing WBT as of right now, are there any other articles you'd like to collaborate on? —Eternal Equinox | talk 21:45, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
- You should read this lol. Anyway, yep. We could dabble a little on "Crazy in Love" or "Always Be My Baby" (I've come to really like the latter song though, esp. the opening chords). Anyway, I'm not sure if i can do it right now. I'm gonna party in a few; I'm just waiting for my friends to come pick me up. Oran e (t) (c) (e) 21:52, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
- Let's start with CiL since it has already been developed. After that, we can do ABMB. All right, I'll see you next time you come on Wikipedia, and I'm going to start working on CiL. —Eternal Equinox | talk 21:54, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
- I've replied to EM's talkpage. Oran e (t) (c) (e) 22:14, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks for the kind words! :) P.S. Sorry I couldn't get the "Fantasy"/"Always Be My Baby" samples. Extraordinary Machine 16:51, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
- Really, don't worry about the samples. The idea came to me when I saw the dance remix of "My All"—in my opinion one of the most unusual songs ever—in the article. Anyway, I've seen that you may retire from Wikipedia (or conduct minimal edits) in the future. Is there a reason you've come to this decision? —Eternal Equinox | talk 18:34, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
- See [1]. Extraordinary Machine 18:52, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks. I think it's interesting to see how much the article has changed, but also to notice that some sentences haven't really changed that much, and that the basic layout of the article is essentially the same. Extraordinary Machine 21:15, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, it is quite interesting. —Eternal Equinox | talk 23:30, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks. I think it's interesting to see how much the article has changed, but also to notice that some sentences haven't really changed that much, and that the basic layout of the article is essentially the same. Extraordinary Machine 21:15, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
- See [1]. Extraordinary Machine 18:52, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
- Really, don't worry about the samples. The idea came to me when I saw the dance remix of "My All"—in my opinion one of the most unusual songs ever—in the article. Anyway, I've seen that you may retire from Wikipedia (or conduct minimal edits) in the future. Is there a reason you've come to this decision? —Eternal Equinox | talk 18:34, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks for the kind words! :) P.S. Sorry I couldn't get the "Fantasy"/"Always Be My Baby" samples. Extraordinary Machine 16:51, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
- I've replied to EM's talkpage. Oran e (t) (c) (e) 22:14, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
- Let's start with CiL since it has already been developed. After that, we can do ABMB. All right, I'll see you next time you come on Wikipedia, and I'm going to start working on CiL. —Eternal Equinox | talk 21:54, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
I can't find a Canadian version of the single, and most retailer sites do not provide the track listings for the items they do have. I assume that the Canadian version of the single probably has the same track listing as the singles in Europe did. Underneath-it-All 15:11, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
- It is likely, yes. —Eternal Equinox | talk 15:19, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
Hi
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The Working Man's Barnstar
For all the hard work on Wikipedia, a barnstar should be given to Eternal Equinox hottie 21:48, 11 April 2006 (UTC) |
I just want to tell you that I really appreciate your hard work on this site. You are really active, you're talk page is way longer than mine and I see that you cleaned-up so many articles and turned them up into a good article which is really nice and cute. I really liked what is written in your user page specially your love life it made my eyes tear. Oh I'm also moving in Toronto in the next few years maybe I'll meet you there lol.
So I'm giving you for the first time a barnstar lol hope you like it and cherish it. I know we had some cat fights before but it's ok we are still cool. --hottie 21:48, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
Re: Always Be My Baby
Thanks. Maybe. Extraordinary Machine 21:48, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
Re: Kelly Clarkson
The intro to the article was poor, including grammar errors, excessive attention to a basically irrelevant acting failure, and unsupported assertions about her AI image. I wasn't violating any WP practices by improving it! 68.194.50.41 02:19, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
More Kelly Clarkson - sound sample
Hi, I've uploaded a sample and tried to get a piece with some appropriately emotion-charged lyrics. I read through the lyrics first - something I had not done before - and they are devastating, aren't they? Makes me feel sorry for the poor girl. Anyhow it is here ...Image:Kelly Clarkson - Because Of You.ogg. I haven't put it into the article and will leave that up to your judgement. Hope it's ok. Cheers. Rossrs 10:07, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
- I would really like to thank you for materializing this sound sample! You deserve a little something for all your hard work. —Eternal Equinox | talk 13:53, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
- You're very welcome. Thanks for the barnstar too, which I appreciate. Rossrs 14:00, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
FAC: The Office (US TV series)
Hey, just letting you know I responded to your comment over at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/The Office (US TV series). When someone made the move to that title it caught me off guard as well, but the current naming conventions do prefer it the current way. Regards, Mrtea (talk) 22:40, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
Psst
Image:Mariah Carey We Belong Together chart trajectories.png —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 21:20, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
- In case you didn't look, this was a higher-quality scatter-chart of the same data... —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 23:37, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
- That is one of the only mainstream songs I am surprised you have not heard (most of the other stuff on the radio these days is... yeah). It doesn't matter though. I did see the scatterplot graph, I'm just unsure if it should be included in the article. It looks... well... different. Do you suggest I give it a try? What if the opposers find this one even more appauling? —Eternal Equinox | talk 23:42, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
- I thought it addressed their (nitpicky) complaints about the chart, but who knows? No big deal either way, I guess. The old jpg also suffered from compression artifacts, giving it some ugly halo effects around the sharp lines. —Bunchofgrapes ... OK, just got you message about the colors. being color-blind has its disadvantages. Hang on. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 23:52, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
- No, I'm the color-blind one! Any better now? —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 23:57, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
- I thought it addressed their (nitpicky) complaints about the chart, but who knows? No big deal either way, I guess. The old jpg also suffered from compression artifacts, giving it some ugly halo effects around the sharp lines. —Bunchofgrapes ... OK, just got you message about the colors. being color-blind has its disadvantages. Hang on. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 23:52, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
- That is one of the only mainstream songs I am surprised you have not heard (most of the other stuff on the radio these days is... yeah). It doesn't matter though. I did see the scatterplot graph, I'm just unsure if it should be included in the article. It looks... well... different. Do you suggest I give it a try? What if the opposers find this one even more appauling? —Eternal Equinox | talk 23:42, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
Rudeness and the "We Belong Together" FAC nom
As you waited more than two weeks since hte last nomination, for now, I do intend to let the latest "We Belong Together" FAC nom run its course. However, your comments to others on that nomination have been downright rude. I'm goint to ask you to reconsider what you do there, and treat others with the respect we expect all FAC participants to show. Raul654 00:04, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
- I am not being rude. Personally, I believe that at this point most of the objections are picky and simply adding "extra spice". I am attempting in every way possible to address these objections, no matter what my opinion on them may be, that being good or bad. However, although I'm sure you're not interested, and will ignore this, I should alert you that HeyNow10029 and I are experiencing an edit war at Kelly Clarkson, and I think her objection is based on this, as it was last time. If you require elucidation that this may be the reason, see her comments at the current FAC for WBT. She is ignoring my suggestion and ranting about the bolded comment I made. Thank you and thank you, regardless of your decision(s). —Eternal Equinox | talk 00:09, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
EE, I've looked over the FAC edits from today, and I'm sorry to say that you have been quite rude, I would say incivil, both to HeyNow10029 and to Bishonen. I had hoped you were learning that a confrontational approach at FAC was not the way to succeed; now, I just don't know. Stop ascribing motivations to others and just concentrate on really listening to what they say about the article! —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 01:23, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
- Bishonen's not following you around, she's following the FACs -- like she always has. It shouldn't surprise you -- no, it can't surprise you -- when she calls you on behavior unbecoming a FAC-nominator. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 02:13, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
Two things: (with all due respect)
- I am very tired of the drama between you and Bishonen. This is the same reason why I tried to leave wikipedia in the past. You can't keep assuming that every move she makes is a part of a scheme against you (and you can't keep running to me everytime you suspect something). I will not be pulled down in any of this. I have worked far too hard and I have too good of a reputation to destry over this feud.
- I think that you made a very big mistake renominating the article so early (especially without consulting me, as we are supposed to work on it together). Two weeks is way to early, and I wouldn't be surprised if Raul delisted it again. I will have no part in this one. Oran e (t) (c) (e) 03:29, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
Unsourced statements
Hi, sorry I didn't respond to the note you left on my talk page about the unreferenced sentence in The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask; I've been busy lately. I've added the sentence back with a reference, which was the same reference as the previous sentence. If you feel the need to remove a sentence just because it is unreferenced, it would be helpful if you could comment the sentence out instead of actually removing it, possibly with a note stating why is it commented. That makes it easier to add the sentence back if needed, and will prompt future editors that a reference needs to be added. Thanks, Pagrashtak 05:14, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
Re: Hi EM
It's a pity, but I guess it's your choice...I mean, I'm leaving soon as well, and I know that it's my choice :). Feel free to contact me by email. Extraordinary Machine 17:51, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
Hi
I really like that you added me "in your high regards" that's so nice and don't leave the site--hottie 01:54, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
RE: VJ Search rumour
I heard the rumour when I was at the Madison on St. Patrick's day. I ran into a guy I knew when I interned at Chum TV in the General Production Camera Department. I asked him if he was following the VJ Search and he told me "Ah... Shit. I already know who wins that." I was like , "oh yeah?" and he was like "That rocker dude wins it." and I was like "Tim?" and he was like, "Yeah Man."
Billboard
Nah, sorry. Everyking 02:46, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
And by the way, stick around. It would be terrible for you to leave. Everyking 08:46, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for Choosing Belgrade
Posted by (^'-')^ Covington 07:16, 1 May 2006 (UTC) on behalf of the the AID Maintenance Team
Scatterplot
Image:Gwen Stefani Cool chart trajectories.png —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 23:10, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
Please be careful
Hi, when you're editing, please be careful not to remove categories and language links. Thanks! --JoanneB 22:03, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
IRMA & Impossible Princess
I've gotten Irish chart trajectories from going through the database on www.chart-track.co.uk and from the chart forum ukmix.org. Also, for the Impossible Princess article I think I meant that Minogue gained more confidence in her ability as a writer and as a performer, reading it over I can see how it's unclear about what I meant. -- Underneath-it-All 03:10, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
- Also, have you heard any news about the video for "Fly Me Away"? I watched a short clip of it on YouTube, but haven't seen any other site which has the full video. From what I saw of it though I'm pretty excited about it. -- Underneath-it-All 03:15, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
I've yet to see the "Fly Me Away" video since I've been doing other things this past week. However, I'm going to access it right now and attempt to locate another website with a better-quality version, that is, if one is actually accessible. —Eternal Equinox | talk 14:47, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
- I'm surprised at the rather low chart position it attained. —Eternal Equinox | talk 01:32, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
- The position is pretty good though since it received very little promotion and the video hasn't been released yet, but I agree the chart position is disappointing. -- Underneath-it-All 01:29, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
- The video has not been released? Oh! I... didn't know that. Well then, perhaps you're right, but I too wish it had gathered a more commendable debut. I'd assume that it is going to eventually ascend the UK Singles Chart, but more unusual circumstances have occurred. Do you by chance own the "Number 1" CD single that was solicited here in Canada? —Eternal Equinox | talk 01:32, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
- The position is pretty good though since it received very little promotion and the video hasn't been released yet, but I agree the chart position is disappointing. -- Underneath-it-All 01:29, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
- No, I never bought the CD single, but downloaded some of the songs from it off of iTunes. I never realized the video wasn't released yet until today when I read about it on a music blog. It's odd that Mute didn't release the video before the single was released. Their strategy for promoting the single seems a little off. -- Underneath-it-All 01:36, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, I must agree with you. It is not common for a record label to conduct an official single-release in that sort of manner, especially since "Fly Me Away" is being promoted as the fourth. At this point, you would figure that they were attempting to press sales, moreover, since Supernature had been incapable of debuting at number one on the albums chart. —Eternal Equinox | talk 01:38, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
Thanks
Thanks for the greeting I was wondering if someone remember my b-day, yes I'm the one who uploaded those samples it's pretty cool. And oh you're back well Welcome back to Wikipedia!--2hot4u2handle 17:37, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks so much for the "re-greeting"! Could you tell me how to create sound samples? —Eternal Equinox | talk 21:23, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
Ok, Open the Windows Media Maker, then choose a mp3 you want, put it on the "storyboard" box, select a 30-second clip you want then save it. Then open a wav to ogg conveter if you have one, just convert it to ogg. You can now upload it on Wikipedia.--2hot4u2handle 23:05, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
Peer review/goldfrapp
I will definately help once my exams are finished (soon) :) -- - K a s h Talk | email 18:56, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
Goldfrapp
Hi EE, I just wanted to let you know that it might be few days before I can work on those samples. I'm a bit busy at the moment, so I'm not sure when I will get a chance, but I will do them. cheers Rossrs 21:33, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
BB
Sorry, but no. Good to see you're still around, though. Everyking 03:42, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
Please Help
Say You'll Be There
Sure, I re-added the old pic and I uploaded a new pic but I don't know where to put it: Mel C--2hot4u2handle 01:22, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
HeyNow
Stop bugging her EE. And stop making up policy: users can if they choose remove stuff from their talk pages without archiving. The gray area is whether they can remove vandalism warnings. Most say no to that, but even that's a little unclear. As far as removing things that aren't warnings for blockable behavior, it's fine. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 03:21, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
- Bunchofgrapes, I wasn't aware that talk pages did not apply to the Wikipedia policy which I had read (or I merely forgot or something — whatever the case). I didn't intend to bother her in any way, I was just explaining some details about an image, but she became critical. I understand now, so thank you very much for clearing the situation. However, in advance, please don't accuse me of bothering her since I was incorrect, but once again, thank you much for the notification. —Eternal Equinox | talk 20:10, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
FAC
To be totally honest, I would prefer if we waited a while. We still have some prose to finetune etc. I want to anticipate every objection, so we need to work on it extra hard. After that, we could send it for another peer review (we could contact some of the friendlier opposers of the last FAC, like EveryKing etc). Then, maybe by the end of this month, we could try our luck once more. If we do it any sooner, we'll look desperate. Oran e (t) (c) (e) 20:24, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
- All right, I agree with you. Plus, there aren't many people who like me on Wikipedia as of this writing, and I don't want to tempt them any further. Are you online by chance? Don't you think it's time we started on Crazy in Love (Beyoncé song)? —Eternal Equinox | talk 20:27, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
- I'm actually leaving for work in about 5 mins :(. (And I'm also working 9-5 tomorrow). I don't know exactly when I'll have time, but I will start soon, I promise :P Oran e (t) (c) (e) 20:30, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
- Oh, lovely. :P
- Don't worry too much about it, but I'm going to begin to heavily tidy it. The music and structure will begin to receive incorportation eventually. —Eternal Equinox | talk 20:32, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
- I'm actually leaving for work in about 5 mins :(. (And I'm also working 9-5 tomorrow). I don't know exactly when I'll have time, but I will start soon, I promise :P Oran e (t) (c) (e) 20:30, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
Crazy In Love
Who are those critics anyway? "Crazy In Love" is totally different from pop songs like Britney Spears' ones or Hilary Duff's ones.
200.138.194.254 20:46, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
- I think that the misunderstanding comes from how the term "pop music" is used. Let me explain: there is popular music, a broad blanket category which is any music that is popular and accessible to the general public (ie mainstream music), and then there is pop music, a sub-genre of popular music, which is music from artists like Britney Spears, Madonna or Hilary Duff (god, I can't stand her). Because popular music is a general term, any song can be called a "popular song" (even if it is rock, soul, or R&B). The confusion sets in because "popular music" is often abbreviated "pop music", and people cannot distinguish if we are referring to the pop music that Madonna "sings" or popular music (the popular, blanket genre). For "Crazy in Love", I can assure you that we are referring to "popular music" (which has simply been abbreviated "pop music"), and not the sub-genre. Understand? Oran e (t) (c) (e) 23:41, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
- I do understand this, but even I believed "Crazy in Love" contained pop roots. After all, it was a success with pop radio. —Eternal Equinox | talk 02:51, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
- I think that the misunderstanding comes from how the term "pop music" is used. Let me explain: there is popular music, a broad blanket category which is any music that is popular and accessible to the general public (ie mainstream music), and then there is pop music, a sub-genre of popular music, which is music from artists like Britney Spears, Madonna or Hilary Duff (god, I can't stand her). Because popular music is a general term, any song can be called a "popular song" (even if it is rock, soul, or R&B). The confusion sets in because "popular music" is often abbreviated "pop music", and people cannot distinguish if we are referring to the pop music that Madonna "sings" or popular music (the popular, blanket genre). For "Crazy in Love", I can assure you that we are referring to "popular music" (which has simply been abbreviated "pop music"), and not the sub-genre. Understand? Oran e (t) (c) (e) 23:41, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
Goldfrapp
Hi EE, well I have finally added the samples you requested. Can I just ask that you go back into the image description pages and add the copyright,song writing, production etc credit, as per the Mariah Carey sound samples. I must admit, I'm not familiar with Goldfrapp, but funnily enough was given a copy of Supernature about 2 days before you asked me to make samples. I hadn't had a chance to listen to it until now, and I like it. I tried to make the samples a bit diverse and tried to match them with what's written in the article. So for "Ooh La La" I concentrated on the vocal, the "Spirit in the Sky" sample and the chorus (being a hit single and all). "Let It Take You", I concentrated on the vocal, and "Satin Chic" on the synth and music in general, and tried to find a section where there were changes in tempo. Anyway, hope they're what you wanted.
They are :
Image:GoldfrappOohLaLa.ogg
Image:GoldfrappLetItTakeYou.ogg
Image:GoldfrappSatinChic.ogg
cheers, Rossrs 11:46, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
Your latest edit to RfA
Hello, I just noticed you made this edit, with an edit summary of "Forgot commas". Yet this edit seems to have nothing to do with commas, but rather deletes a lot of content, and changes arbitrator's opinions on hearing the RfAs. Could you please elaborate on the reasons for this edit? Thank you. -- noosphere 19:06, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
- Ok, cool. It looked like a mistake.. but I just wanted to be sure. -- noosphere 19:52, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
- No apologies necessary. Your explanation was enough. -- noosphere 19:58, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
Miranda Otto article
I expanded the opening a bit. Thanks for your help on the article! I was wondering if you could help me go through it and rewrite sections that have poor grammer, etc. Thanks so much! -- Underneath-it-All 16:33, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
- Of course I will. Once I complete a few quick edits, I'll begin to rewrite some of the sections. —Eternal Equinox | talk 20:40, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
- I'll try to find it. The article where I got the information about her first play from does not state the plays name. -- Underneath-it-All 23:08, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
- Found it. According to the official site for In My Father's Den, Otto's first theatre production was The Bitter Tears Of Petra Von Kant. -- Underneath-it-All 23:20, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
We Belong
Just read over it, looks fine, very well written, and I see that a scatterplot has been adopted. Very Good job on this article, I will be able to vote a very enthusiastic support whenever you choose to nominate this, as I believe that mythical one month line has been passed already. Told you I was an easy person to get along with if you tried :) -Mask 21:30, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
- I am always going to cooperate on an FAC from this moment. After all — and you know that you were right — pressing down on the minority is never the way to complete a project. However, a month has not passed; you posted a message on Talk:We Belong Together dated April 29. —Eternal Equinox | talk 21:33, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
- Alright then, the 29th. And I really mean it when I say you guys did a bang-up job on this article, it's quite thorough. -Mask
21:39, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks! —Eternal Equinox | talk 21:40, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
- Alright then, the 29th. And I really mean it when I say you guys did a bang-up job on this article, it's quite thorough. -Mask
I have no clue. Perhaps you should ask User:Luigi-ish? -- getcrunkjuicecontribs 23:38, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks. —Eternal Equinox | talk 23:55, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
- Just one week. But it's still possible to regain the #1 position as its current position is number 2[2]. -- Luigi-ish 00:31, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
Mariah Carey revert
Hello. I am Rhett Lawrence, the record producer, and I corrected some things and added some relevant details on this article which you appear to have reverted. Since I was there, I think what I have to contribute would be considered important and first-person accurate. I am new to Wikipedia. If something was done incorrectly, what can we do to fix the article and not have it randomly reverted by someone who was not there? Thanks