Talk:India

The meaning of Vande Mataram needs to be changed in accordance with the Vande Mataram wiki

The literal meaning of 'Vande Mataram' is 'I praise thee, Mother'.

Vande literally means 'I praise/I salute/I worship'. 'I bow', although could pass in spirit, is incorrect.

The wiki for Vande Mataram is accurate in this matter.

I am citing one of the most online sanskrit dictionaries for this.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Akashputhraya (talk • contribs) 04:02, 17 February 2015‎ Template:Reflist-tallk

Official Name: Semi-protected edit request: Apr 4, 2015

Official records so far do not have any support on the fact that Republic of India is the official name of the country. The Constitution however, provides that the Central Government may be sued by the name of Union of India. Also, Article 1 of the Constitution of India uses the term Bharat as synonymous of India.

I propose to edit the first list of the article from India (/ˈɪndiə/), officially the Republic of India (Bhārat Gaṇarājya), is a country in South Asia. to India (/ˈɪndiə/), or Bharat officially known as Union of India is a country in South Asia.

We may retain the information on Republic of India as well. Samitus mallicus 15:43, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

References

Not done: The first source youve linked dosent state what the name is and the second isnt considered a reliable source. If you can finda reliable source that confirms the name then it may be possible to change it. Amortias (T)(C) 11:27, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

How about this: , in lieu of Reference 2 above. Also, Reference 1 says that there is no official name of the country — Preceding unsigned comment added by Samitus mallicus (talk • contribs) 10:39, 9 April 2015 (UTC)

Largest Indian City

In the article's right, it says that Mumbai is the largest (i.e. most populated) city in India. But that is outdated information from the 2011 census. According the 2013-2014 census, Delhi is India's largest city and the world's second largest city (the third is Mumbai). This is an edit request. Thanks.

15:52 UTC — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tejas Subramaniam (talk • contribs) 15:52, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

References

The Census data alone is considered authoritative about population data. Last census was conducted in 2011, and next will be in 2021, there is no census in 2013-14. The reference provided does not cite a source, also, sometimes population of Delhi's satellite towns (Gurgaon, Noida, Faridabad, Ghaziabad) is counted in Delhi's population, the source does not clarify if that is the case.User:Samitus mallicus

Accepted, but the satellite town population was not considered by the reference I cited.

--Tejas Subramaniam (talk) 11:29, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

I think you should use the english timeline. i.e. BC and AC not BCE and CE.

With all due respect to the indian culture and religion, in the ENGLISH version of the WP, it should be AD not CE and BC not BCE.

With Regards. .... added at 23:41, 12 April 2015‎ by 82.11.66.190

Please see this. Incidentally, "AD" is Latin. -- Hoary (talk) 23:48, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

why delete child in Kurta pic

Why picture posted by me to India page in front of clothing was deleted ,as all know kurta is India traditional dress and that child was wearing thatAmit.pratap1988 (talk) 16:10, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

I'm neutral as to whether the pic can be included or not but feel that it does merit discussion before being put. I see that there is place for it and text won't get sandwiched. If no one objects within a few days, @Amit.pratap1988: you can put it (see WP:SILENCE). Sincerely, Joel. Ugog Nizdast (talk) 07:18, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

An image in the clothing section would be fine with me, but File:A_indian_child_in_kurta.jpg is not a good candidate because (1) it is low resolution/quality (we should ideally aim for a featred picture or something at least close, given the number of options, and few available slots on the page); (2) it doesn't depict the subject (ie kurta) very well, not giving the viewer an idea of its length, sleeves etc, and what it is worn with; and (3) we should be wary of using images of non-public individuals in which they are recognizable, on the page. Abecedare (talk) 11:41, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

Talk:India/FAQ should be WP:India/FAQ

Please see this thread to comment. Thanks! Wnt (talk) 12:36, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

National Game Updatation

I think that the National Game of India is Hockey and it should be updated on the page... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.124.74.122 (talk) 07:34, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

See: In RTI reply, Centre says India has no national game. Abecedare (talk) 09:19, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

Nepal earth quake Maybe due to large amount of chinese fracking, Fracking is 100 percent prove to cause earth quakes and tremmers.

Does anyone know if wiki has a page on Chinese fracking? I hear that the nepal earth quake maybe a result of this massive fracking prossess of china, if enough information can be gathered can we make a page on The damage resul;ts left by fracking in asia?92.236.96.38 (talk) 18:51, 26 April 2015 (UTC)Hinting information

This is not really the Talk page for this discussion. Try the Talk pages for Hydraulic fracturing, Hydraulic fracturing by country, or List of countries by recoverable shale gas. I doubt that you'll get much affirmation, though. China hasn't been fracking all that long, fracking hasn't been shown to cause massive quakes, and Nepal is in a seismically active region of the world. Dhtwiki (talk) 23:39, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

Tourism in India

I think there is need of separate small section of Tourism in India. Many countries have that section in their article (like Pakistan). India is a vast nation and has very much diversity in climate, has various natural sites like from Deserts, Hills, Valleys, Rivers, Sea to forests. Also rich history of various religions left vast number of historic monuments. So it deserves atleast small section on Tourism. There is separate article on Tourism in India, we can link this article to that Tourism section. Currently this article is linked in economy section. Thank you. --Human3015 05:52, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

I think no one has problem with creation of new small section of "Tourism in India", thats why no one is objecting here even after I waited for 48 hours. This page has more than 3000 watchers and thousands of daily readers but no one objected my idea of new section. So I will create new small section on Tourism, don't revert it if you didn't took part here in discussion. Thank you. --Human3015 11:05, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

Note: Posting here doesn't mean you have "the license" to add that just because no one has said anything in 48 hours. Silence is the lowest form of consensus and you still can be reverted later because of such a bold change. Everyone is a volunteer here and not expected to reply for each and everything. This talk page is watched by everyone, but just look at the number of unanswered posts here, not all attract replies. Search the talk archives above, I believe there are discussions regarding this. -Ugog Nizdast (talk) 11:57, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply, you are talking like Wikipedia gave you "the license" of reverting everything, anyway, no one owns the article, and everybody is free to make changes according to reliable sources. Thanks again. Cheers. --Human3015 12:15, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

As Ugog said above, if you search the talk page archive you'll see that this has been discussed several times previously and the current consensus is that such a section is undue. If you wish to argue otherwise feel free to make your case and establish new consensus for a section. And having "reliable sources" is a necessary condition for including content; not a sufficient one. There is ample content on India that can be properly sourced, but which belongs in the petinent sub-article and not here. Abecedare (talk) 12:29, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

Ok, Thanks both of you, I have read old discussions. Human3015 13:17, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 April 2015

Johnnyjohn979 (talk) 10:36, 28 April 2015 (UTC) sir i'm a student in delhi in this page it is showing capital as new delhi and largest city as mumbai please change largest city as new delhi it is the most populated city, most populated urban agglomeration, most populous by city proper,most populous metropolitan area as per as current population 2015 many research articles are showing new delhi as the second most populous city in the world after tokyo

even in terms of land area also new delhi is the largest city of india so i'd be very happy if you incorporate these changes with regards

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Edgars2007 (talk/contribs) 10:47, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 April 2015

sir i'm a student in delhi in this page it is showing capital as new delhi and largest city as mumbai please change largest city as new delhi it is the most populated city, most populated urban agglomeration, most populous by city proper,most populous metropolitan area as per as current population 2015 many research articles are showing new delhi as the second most populous city in the world after tokyo

even in terms of land area also new delhi is the largest city of india so i'd be very happy if you incorporate these changes with regards Johnnyjohn979 (talk) 11:04, 28 April 2015 (UTC) please change "largest city Mumbai→New Delhi"

 Not done Please provide reliable sources for you claim. And please don't make this request again without reliable sources. Joseph2302 (talk) 11:11, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

Yes, even given UN source of 2014 says that Delhi is most populous city in the world after Tokyo. read here at UN website. UN says Delhi has 25 million population, while Mumbai has 21 million population. We can't discard this user just because he is talking politely, wikipedia has no place for polite users, we need to be aggressive to make a change, either its in society or in wikipedia. --Human3015 11:28, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

Reference: http://www.un.org/en/development/desa/news/population/world-urbanization-prospects-2014.html

Saraswati river settlements

I have removed the sentence

"Based on the Indian Remote Sensing Satellite data it was observed that the major Indus Valley Civilization sites of Kalibangan (Rajasthan), Banawali and Rakhigarhi (Haryana), Dholavira and Lothal (Gujarat) flourished along the ancient Sarasvati River."

that was recently added to the article and sourced to a Lok Sabha Q&A because:

• it is poorly sourced; the Lok Sabha Q&A may be ok as a source of GoI position, but is not a WP:HISTRS source, which is what we should be using in this article. However sourcing is not my major concern, since we can certainly find good sources verifying that IVC settlements existed along the Ghaggar-Hakra River/Saraswati River.
• More importantly the sentence is simply undue in this high level survey in which we summarize ~30,000 years of ancient Indian history in a paragraph and the whole of IVC history in two sentences. Even if we were to add an additional sentence to the IVC history, it would not be one that simply dropped in the names of a few IVC sites (two of which are already named in the immediately preceding sentence!) without adding any material info.

Abecedare (talk) 20:17, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Kautilya3 (talk · contribs) beat me to the removal this time, but the rest of my above statement stands. Abecedare (talk) 20:19, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Well, my take is that the students are back for summer holidays. So, expect this torrent of this poorly-sourced undue edits to continue. But sometimes they make a good point even if it is done badly. This was one of those. Cheers, Kautilya3 (talk) 20:37, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Yup, no problem with mentioning Sarasvati river per se. IIRC Upinder Singh even discusses whether the IVC/Harappan Civilization is "correctly" named, or if those names simply reflect the early finds (to be clear, not proposing discussing any of that here and, correct or not, those names are commonly used even in scholarly literature). Abecedare (talk) 20:46, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Yup again. If you check our favourite editor's edit history, you will notice that he has created 10 aliases for the IVC, covering his bases in every possible way! -- Kautilya3 (talk) 20:49, 4 May 2015 (UTC)