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== Rude comment == |
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Hi, Andrewa. I find the fact that you linked [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AMolycorp&type=revision&diff=767662376&oldid=766981179 your comment] aimed to the RM proposal made by me, to the newly created essay by you, quite rude. It says that you considered it humorous and asks do not take it seriously but I think you are wrong here. Actually, by my understanding everybody should take wiki policies seriously. Saying this, I have to say that I agree with your comment but not with link it to your essay. Actually, I have read [[WP:TITLE]] and [[WP:NCCORP]] (well, not in this particular case but tens times before) and my mistake was not to elaborate the rationale in more details. Actually, there is a lot of sources using the new name after the company was purchased by creditors, so I think that it is possible to establish the notability of the new name. My bad was not adding these sources (except one) to the article before nominating it for renaming. This was because of the current shape of this article. It miss a lot of information from the earlier history as also about more recent development (actually everything what has happened after filing for bankruptcy protection) and by my understanding it was just created because the company's listing and was mainly missed afterwards. I tried to sort out that mess but soon discovered that the total rewriting of this article may be a good idea. Saying this, that article is not my top priority and due to lack of time there is a long list of thing in wiki I want to do before spending my time for exploring that company and rewriting that article. Once more, I am not disagree with your comment but with link to rather rude essay. Thank you. [[User:Beagel|Beagel]] ([[User talk:Beagel|talk]]) 20:22, 1 March 2017 (UTC) |
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please help
dear sir, can you help with ethnic issues in Japan? the article has multiple issues and needs urgent attention. Фквжьись (talk) 23:07, 4 February 2017 (UTC)
AN/I goof?
Andrew, if my latest conjecture at AN/I is correct, you might want to just hat that whole section, or move it, or in some other way address the error. Dicklyon (talk) 03:53, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
Capitalisation
I'll completely back you if you try to get the policy on title capitalisation changed. The current situation is ridiculous, and I suspect you'll find a lot of support. G-13114 (talk) 20:26, 13 February 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks, User:G-13114. It will also face a lot of bitter opposition.
- Several editors have put a lot of time and effort into implementing Sanger's style decision on capitalisation. (See the very first version of WP:AT which he wrote.) They've done it in good faith, following the guidelines of the time, and to have their work thrown out is not welcome, understandably. And they've defended their actions in good faith. There has been much bitter discussion, it has lost editors, and people are rightfully sick of talking about it.
- Sanger does refer to previous discussion on that point, but I have not been able to locate it. The MediaWiki software has changed a lot since then, the WikiText syntax has changed, and some of the links don't work as a result. Any help finding these previous discussions is appreciated, but it may be a lost cause.
- I'm still getting my thoughts together, but personally I think we should adopt a style that says use capitals in article titles wherever it makes the topic clearer to the general reader (and not otherwise). This would capitalise for example Eastern Brown Snake.
- The other obstacle to overcome is that some people have very strong feelings as to what is correct capitalisation, generally expressed in terms of proper nouns and proper names. They are I think mistaken in this. Modern linguists cannot even agree on what these terms mean, let alone the circumstances in which they justify capital letters. But in Australia most people haven't studied grammar since primary school, where such simplifications are necessary, and I suspect America (where most of our potential supporters and opponents were educated) is the same. Andrewa (talk) 01:20, 14 February 2017 (UTC)
- I really have two objections to the current rules:
- 1) I really can't see the logic to using sentence case for titles, virtually no publications I know of in the real world use this convention, and titles are IMO supposed to be different from the text, as they fulfil a different purpose.
- 2) The current one-size-fits-all convention is inflexible and often completely inappropriate for certain topic areas, and it can lead to a situation where an incoherent mishmash of capitalised and non-capitalised titles can exist within one category. I would say there is a good case for consistency within categories.
- G-13114 (talk) 14:34, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
- Good points all, but I'm not in complete agreement with several of them. It sounds as if you would use capitals in titles even more frequently than I would. Andrewa (talk) 15:32, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
Gawker RSN discussion
Thanks for your comments and help. I'm trying to walk the line between deescalating the situation and clarifying it for editors such as yourself. I'd hope we can get to the point where we can get further discussion from outside editors. So far Collect has made clear statements against using the source, MrOllie has provided some context, and you've commented that the source might be used in a limited manner. --Ronz (talk) 23:24, 21 February 2017 (UTC)
- I don't believe I've ever looked at the hat documentation. That's embarrassing. Thanks for bringing it up. I use them regularly to de-emphasize extra details and side discussions. In this case, I was treating it as a side discussion on a topic that I'd already asked for responses on my talk page [1]. I won't be doing that again, but will continue to use it for extra details. --Ronz (talk) 23:35, 21 February 2017 (UTC)
- It doesn't help that wp:hat redirects to wp:hatnote and until recently that was a dead-end. I'd guess from that we can conclude that a great many haven't looked too hard for the doco (or it would have been fixed long ago).
- Ironical that wp:hatnote lacked such a much-needed hatnote, what? (;-> Andrewa (talk) 23:48, 21 February 2017 (UTC)
[2] What specifically are you referring to, if anything, other than the hat? --Ronz (talk) 22:02, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
question
Would you please remove my name from your last comment on the RSN re: Napoleon Hill? I ask because you've made it appear as if I've signed my name there and I have not. You can substitute a reply in {{ }} instead. That makes it clear that I did not sign my name there. Thank you. SW3 5DL (talk) 23:51, 21 February 2017 (UTC)
- Done. I do not see any problem, but it's easily solved. Andrewa (talk) 00:04, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
Apostrophectomy listed at Redirects for discussion
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Rude comment
Hi, Andrewa. I find the fact that you linked your comment aimed to the RM proposal made by me, to the newly created essay by you, quite rude. It says that you considered it humorous and asks do not take it seriously but I think you are wrong here. Actually, by my understanding everybody should take wiki policies seriously. Saying this, I have to say that I agree with your comment but not with link it to your essay. Actually, I have read WP:TITLE and WP:NCCORP (well, not in this particular case but tens times before) and my mistake was not to elaborate the rationale in more details. Actually, there is a lot of sources using the new name after the company was purchased by creditors, so I think that it is possible to establish the notability of the new name. My bad was not adding these sources (except one) to the article before nominating it for renaming. This was because of the current shape of this article. It miss a lot of information from the earlier history as also about more recent development (actually everything what has happened after filing for bankruptcy protection) and by my understanding it was just created because the company's listing and was mainly missed afterwards. I tried to sort out that mess but soon discovered that the total rewriting of this article may be a good idea. Saying this, that article is not my top priority and due to lack of time there is a long list of thing in wiki I want to do before spending my time for exploring that company and rewriting that article. Once more, I am not disagree with your comment but with link to rather rude essay. Thank you. Beagel (talk) 20:22, 1 March 2017 (UTC)