User talk:Hasteur

Question regarding Commons:Deletion requests/File:Richardson mothership.jpg

Hi, thanks for your message on Commons. Yes, if you were able to visit the site and to photograph the building yourself there shouldn't be any problem, as you would then be the owner of the copyright in your own image. Although the architect will have copyright in the design of the building itself, the US has freedom of panorama which means that you are allowed to photograph the building without worrying about anybody else's copyright. It would be a useful thing to do, as there don't seem to be many photographs of it online. I found another one here (image towards the bottom of the page) but it's not free to use. If you'd like me to check the licensing and tagging of the photograph you eventually take, do feel free to leave me a note. --MichaelMaggs (talk) 12:59, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

Draft:LexiBoling

I never said wikipedia was a indefinite draft storage space or whatever the hell. If you simply type in Lexi Boling in the search Wikipedia bar, you will see the page has already been created by someone else. So there is no need to continue to edit the draft I started. The problem is, that other user uses the exact same sources I used... but my draft was rejected and they were approved. So if someone wants to delete it they can go right ahead. Peace.Trillfendi (talk) 17:25, 20 August 2017 (UTC)

@Trillfendi: My bot simply was reminding you that your page had become eligible for G13. Based on your above statement I've taken the bold action of redirecting your effort to that page. If there's something that's missing, feel free to add it to the mainspace page. Hasteur (talk) 18:38, 20 August 2017 (UTC)

Unsolicited advice?

May I make some unsolicited advice? I understand that Taku has a lot of crummy draft pages sitting around, and I am sympathetic to the idea that these should not just sit around forever ignored. (I think I voted in favor of deleting one of them.) And I also have been able to observe his argumentative behavior in a few places and what makes it so annoying. But it also looks to me like you're making this into something personal. Your goal is presumably to build a consensus around dealing with Taku's drafts in one way or another (probably, some should be deleted or moved back into a user page, some should be polished a bit and made into articles, and some should remain as drafts), but I think that the ferocity with which you are engaging undermines this goal. This edit, for example, does not serve any constructive purpose -- it just reads like venting. I would suggest trying to exercise more restraint as far as engaging with him is concerned -- I think it will be better for arriving at a desirable consensus. Again, just my unsolicited two cents. Best, JBL (talk) 17:26, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

@Joel B. Lewis: I'll hold back from direct replies to Taku, it's just driving me up and down the walls that he invests numerous times the amount of bytes defending these turdbuckets as actually doing something about them. I repeat here, if Taku even made one single change to the pages to get them off the "Draft namespace, not in AFC, 6 months unedited" list I stop focusing on his creations. I am trying to sort out the entirety of the pages that meet those criteria (from User:MusikBot/StaleDrafts/Report). Personally I'd love to see Taku commit to putting his drafts irrevocably into AFC (i.e. take the AFC submission banner off after they got rejected) to allow an independent set of eyes evaluate if the page is ready for mainspace and to provide feedback as to what needs to be improved. This has the side benefit of if they continue to leave the Draft to be unedited after it's been reviewed, CSD:G13 applies at 6 months and pages get reminded about at 5 months unedited. Hasteur (talk) 17:52, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

I think the annoyance mentioned in your first sentence is completely understandable -- it's a shame that he's clinging to the obviously useless pages so hard. Best of luck with your project! --JBL (talk) 20:27, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

I'm not a bot guy so thanks for the explanation on CSD talk. Too bad we can't automate the nominations, but eventually the bottom of the pile will be found. Taku requested REFUND on 5 or 6 G13 deleted and then the admin detagged another 5 or so. At least they are off the stale list for a while. Legacypac (talk) 06:23, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

Most people take their religion a lot less seriously than Taku takes his junk pages. The fight is an absurd waste of time. How about we just disengage and close ANi and all other discussion. We G13 as we find them and let him request refunds or remove the tags. At least the list will be clear for a while. His pages will pop up in 6 months unedited and we can seek deletion more firmly then. This drama makes us look bad and distracts from the effort to empty the backlog. Legacypac (talk) 23:18, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

G13 declines

Hey just curious, what's your rationale for declining the G13s for Draft:Genus (film), Draft:Norco (film) and Draft:Shadow Run (film)? They were created and abandoned in June 2015 and the only subsequent edit was Legacypac's MfD nomination (which I think would qualify as "maintenance action such as tagging") so I would have thought they would have qualified? No shade, I just came across them via MfD. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 17:12, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

He takes a narrower view of unedited than I believe is warranted by the criteria. Also, my CSD noms were just after the close and update to reflect G13 expansion, when I went through and CSD'd a bunch of recent MfD noms. I'm not sure if he was aware of the close yet. I figured it was not worth fighting over and an MfD close was more solid than a G13 refundable close. Legacypac (talk) 17:56, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

@Premeditated Chaos: See Legacypac's argument. In the grand scheme of things it's six of one, half dozen of the other. If voters at the MFD advocate for G13, then I'm happy for it, but that's because I think a MFD nomination is an editor change and not the finessed "no edits unless it's a trivial". A MFD has a firmer consensus (from multiple editors having participated in it) than a single editor and admin participating in a CSD. Hasteur (talk) 18:07, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

No problem, I was just curious if that was the view you were taking. Thanks for replying so quickly :) ♠PMC♠ (talk) 18:22, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

Bot messages regarding G13

I just ran across one of your bot's terse G13 notices (on DGG's talk page) and it struck me as perhaps being unsuitable for notifying the less involved editors to whom it may be addressed. After doing some more research, I see that the bot takes the trouble to deliver different messages for different kinds of users. I'm very impressed! — jmcgnh^{(talk) (contribs)} 03:56, 4 September 2017 (UTC)

The terse notices are for people who have opted in at User:HasteurBot/G13 OptIn Notifications for notifications that a page they have interacted with in the past for AFC is soon to be G13 eligible so that people can choose to try and save a page. Hasteur (talk) 13:24, 4 September 2017 (UTC)

MfD

MfD was specifically cited in the closure at [1], so some of my MfD/Taku comments are now obsolete. Time permitting I will review and strike/update as appropriate. If there are any specific discussions in which you would like to see an update from me, please feel free to ping me to them and I will prioritize. VQuakr (talk) 19:21, 13 September 2017 (UTC)

Bot nominations?

Will your bot nominate all these? [2] Legacypac (talk) 10:38, 14 September 2017 (UTC)

All of a sudden almost 3000 pages piled up [3] will your bot get them all or should I keep reviewing them manually? Legacypac (talk) 05:13, 20 September 2017 (UTC)

You don't have to. I'll take a look at the bot, but it's going to be after the weekend. Hasteur (talk) 12:03, 20 September 2017 (UTC)

Legacypac So, turns out I wasn't scanning the Category:AfC submissions by date/2017 subcategories for early notice (5 months unedited). I've enabled up through September 2017 so more will start getting notified on. Hasteur (talk) 20:59, 24 September 2017 (UTC)

Taku topic ban proposal

I don't think you'll mind, but I wanted to explicitly note that I was unusually bold and expanded the initial evidence.[4] If there's any objection you can certainly revert. Alsee (talk) 04:02, 18 September 2017 (UTC)

@Alsee: I was trying to let AN readers be astonished/flabergasted by Taku's previous misbehavior by only linking to the section in which they were indef blocked for the personal attack rather than put it out in the open on AN. Kind of a "jack in the box" suprise when Taku's own words more quickly indict him than anything I could write. Hasteur (talk) 12:33, 18 September 2017 (UTC)

Ummm, I'm not sure I follow. It was at least two links away and I don't think people saw it until I put it out there. I very nearly missed it. Alsee (talk) 14:07, 18 September 2017 (UTC)

It's better spelled out. People vote like lemmings and don't click all the links. Legacypac (talk) 15:35, 18 September 2017 (UTC)

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DRN clerk bot

Hey Hasteur, any idea why the bot removed a listed discussion from the table while it is on the DRN board? Nihlus 05:51, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

@Nihlus: I'm currently at work so I don't have full control right now. I see that the discussion has already closed. Do you still want me to investigate this? Hasteur (talk) 12:42, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

Not super important so don't go out of your way, but I wanted to make sure it wasn't malfunctioning. Nihlus 15:03, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

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ArbCom Cases

I agree that it is never a bad idea to improve the instructions on the odd chance that it might avoid someone making a stupid mistake. However, surveying the filers who filed stupid cases is not likely to be useful, and is what I was saying would be trying to prevent things that could not possibly go wrong but went wrong anyway. Robert McClenon (talk) 01:14, 15 November 2017 (UTC)

Robert McClenon And what I was trying to imply is that it seems like there has been an uptick in editors jumping to filing ArbCom cases as their first recourse in dispute resolution. If we took the time to figure out why they are using ArbCom first, it'll potentially reduce the number of these trivial requests and time that Arbitrators have to spend on these and get the arbitrators to finishing their existsing caseload. Hasteur (talk) 01:51, 15 November 2017 (UTC)

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16:42:09, 2 February 2018 review of submission by Stas`

• Stas` (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Pro:Atria (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hasteur thank you for reviewing the draft. I will try to answer the questions you left. The article was submitted to allow changes and updates to a list of articles that already include references to the topics I cover in the draft. The list is available under the see also section.

In regards to the general tone of the article, as I mentioned previously, this is my first contribution and I'm still learning about all this. As a result, I removed all the content from the draft that is not backed-up by references. I hope it is better now.

To answer your question about the implementation. The alternatives you mentioned are not Managed File Transfer solutions. An MFT solution provides both, the client and the server side, along with scripting/automation support. It's important to mention the following special differences:

• OS support (AIX/HPUX/Solaris).
• Multi protocol, including WebDAV. FTPS authentication does not provide x509 mutual authentication.
• HTTP API (for authentication/authorization/accounting).
• Low memory footprint, even with many connections.
• Single process (no threads) Python + Twisted based (we might want an article in which we describe out library/software stack).
• Available for ARMv7 and ARMv8 CPUs on Linux.

I tried sending edits to the relevant articles, but those would get rejected due to the lack of an approved article. That's the main reason I submitted the draft. Please let me know if other changes are required for the draft to be approved. Thanks in advace. Stas` (talk) 16:42, 2 February 2018 (UTC)

Draft:Level structure

I have started the thread Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Mathematics#Draft:Level_structure. -- Taku (talk) 00:40, 4 March 2018 (UTC)

New Page Reviewer Flag

Hi, Hasteur.
I've noticed that you are an AfC reviewer but don't yet have the New Page Reviewer flag. Would you please consider heading over to PERM and requesting it? (check the flag requirements HERE)
As part of a larger plan to increase cooperation between New Page Patrol and Articles for creation, we are trying to get as many of the active AfC reviewers as possible under the NPR user flag (per this discussion). Unlike the AfC request list, the NPR flag carries no obligation to review new articles, so I'm not asking you to help out at New Page Patrol if you don't want to, just to request the flag.
Of course, if it is something you would be interested in, you can have a look at the NPP tutorial. Please mention that you are an active AfC reviewer in your application.
Cheers and thanks for helping out at AfC, — Insertcleverphrasehere ^{(or here)} 06:23, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

Regarding Hasteurbot's automatic notification concerning Draft:John Raley

Hasteur,

First of all, your bot is pretty dope! Just wanted to let you know that I have edited that page a fair amount since it was rejected in October and have resubmitted it for creation as a wikipedia aritcle. Unsure exactly how this whole process works in terms of draft deletion, but if you could let the powers that be know that that isn't a dead draft article yet, and to please refrain from deleting this draft until it is reviewed again (edit: or direct me where I might go to let those power know), I'd be very grateful!

Thanks, Rejewskifan (talk) 09:46, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

@Rejewskifan: Hello there. Thanks for the praise regarding the bot. Because you've made changes to the draft the 6 month timer that my bot gave you the reminder on has been reset. As long as you keep improving and re-submitting the work, it won't be put up for deletion under the "Stale Drafts" criterion. Hasteur (talk) 20:25, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

@Hasteur: gotcha, sounds good, thanks for the quick reply!Rejewskifan (talk) 03:59, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

Promising draft

I propose that drafts tagged with {{Promising draft}} be no longer nominated for CSD G13 by the bot. Jjjjjjdddddd (talk) 15:34, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

• @Jjjjjjdddddd: Since you seem to only raised this on my talk page I'm inspired by the words of Hector Barbosa. "I'm disinclined to acquiesce to your request. Means No". First The bot only works on drafts that are tagged with the AFC submission banner, second it only does nominations of pages that meet the Stale, third the Promising Draft is only a request without any policy force. Until there's a firm consensus to prevent G13 from being enacted on Promising drafts, I personally am not going to implement this exception. Hasteur (talk) 02:40, 3 May 2018 (UTC)