Jump to content

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/No Cross, No Crown: Difference between revisions

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Content deleted Content added
Hazard-Bot (talk | contribs)
m Bot: Removing closed AfD from Category:Relisted AfD debates
No edit summary
Line 1: Line 1:
===[[No Cross, No Crown]]===
<div class="boilerplate afd vfd xfd-closed" style="background-color: #F3F9FF; margin: 2em 0 0 0; padding: 0 10px 0 10px; border: 1px solid #AAAAAA;">
{{REMOVE THIS TEMPLATE WHEN CLOSING THIS AfD|F}}
:''The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's [[Help:Using talk pages|talk page]] or in a [[Wikipedia:Deletion review|deletion review]]). No further edits should be made to this page.''
<!--Template:Afd top


Note: If you are seeing this page as a result of an attempt to re-nominate an article for deletion, you must manually edit the AfD nomination links to create a new discussion page using the name format of [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/PAGENAME (2nd nomination)]]. When you create the new discussion page, please provide a link to this old discussion in your nomination. -->

The result was '''keep'''. ([[Wikipedia:Non-admin closure|non-admin closure]]) '''[[User:AKS.9955|<span style="color:#000080"> Arun Kumar SINGH </span>]][[User talk: AKS.9955|<span style="color:#01BFFF"> (Talk) </span>]]''' 02:50, 9 July 2016 (UTC)

===[[No Cross, No Crown]]===
:{{la|No Cross, No Crown}} – (<includeonly>[[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/No Cross, No Crown|View AfD]]</includeonly><noinclude>[[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2016 July 1#{{anchorencode:No Cross, No Crown}}|View log]]</noinclude>{{int:dot-separator}} <span class="plainlinks">[https://tools.wmflabs.org/jackbot/snottywong/cgi-bin/votecounter.cgi?page=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/No_Cross,_No_Crown Stats]</span>)
:{{la|No Cross, No Crown}} – (<includeonly>[[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/No Cross, No Crown|View AfD]]</includeonly><noinclude>[[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2016 July 1#{{anchorencode:No Cross, No Crown}}|View log]]</noinclude>{{int:dot-separator}} <span class="plainlinks">[https://tools.wmflabs.org/jackbot/snottywong/cgi-bin/votecounter.cgi?page=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/No_Cross,_No_Crown Stats]</span>)
:({{Find sources AFD|No Cross, No Crown}})
:({{Find sources AFD|No Cross, No Crown}})
Line 19: Line 13:
*(EC) I'm having trouble with this one, because the title of the book appears to have been adopted as a subsequent slogan--or perhaps was already in popular use as such before Penn titled the book--and specific coverage of this particular book is not obvious. Tentatively '''merging''' should be fine, because there's really no reason the entire text of the article can't be covered in the parent article, but I see no reason why it couldn't also be split back out if a larger article can be written on the book itself. [[User:Jclemens|Jclemens]] ([[User talk:Jclemens|talk]]) 04:33, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
*(EC) I'm having trouble with this one, because the title of the book appears to have been adopted as a subsequent slogan--or perhaps was already in popular use as such before Penn titled the book--and specific coverage of this particular book is not obvious. Tentatively '''merging''' should be fine, because there's really no reason the entire text of the article can't be covered in the parent article, but I see no reason why it couldn't also be split back out if a larger article can be written on the book itself. [[User:Jclemens|Jclemens]] ([[User talk:Jclemens|talk]]) 04:33, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
<div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"><span style="color: #FF6600;">'''{{resize|91%|[[Wikipedia:Deletion process#Relisting discussions|Relisted]] to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.}}'''</span><br />
<div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"><span style="color: #FF6600;">'''{{resize|91%|[[Wikipedia:Deletion process#Relisting discussions|Relisted]] to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.}}'''</span><br />
<small>Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">[[User:Northamerica1000|North America]]<sup>[[User talk:Northamerica1000|<font size="-2">1000</font>]]</sup></span> 05:01, 21 June 2016 (UTC)</small><!-- from Template:Relist --></div><!-- Please add new comments below this line -->
<small>Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">[[User:Northamerica1000|North America]]<sup>[[User talk:Northamerica1000|<font size="-2">1000</font>]]</sup></span> 05:01, 21 June 2016 (UTC)</small><!-- from Template:Relist --><noinclude>[[Category:Relisted AfD debates|No Cross, No Crown]]</noinclude></div><!-- Please add new comments below this line -->
*'''Redirect''' -- I suspect that the Quakers may regard this as one of their early devotional works. I thus suspect it is a significant work. However this article does not say much that does not already appear in the article on [[William Penn]]; indeed that is if anything rather better. There is nothing to merge, but we might redirect to William Penn - section Persecutions, and categorise it as a redirect with possibilities. [[User:Peterkingiron|Peterkingiron]] ([[User talk:Peterkingiron|talk]]) 17:50, 28 June 2016 (UTC)
*'''Redirect''' -- I suspect that the Quakers may regard this as one of their early devotional works. I thus suspect it is a significant work. However this article does not say much that does not already appear in the article on [[William Penn]]; indeed that is if anything rather better. There is nothing to merge, but we might redirect to William Penn - section Persecutions, and categorise it as a redirect with possibilities. [[User:Peterkingiron|Peterkingiron]] ([[User talk:Peterkingiron|talk]]) 17:50, 28 June 2016 (UTC)
*'''Keep.''' famous book.,and famous slogan based on the book. There's no pt merging in somethignthat can be so easily expanded. Article are expected to grow. '''[[User:DGG| DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG| talk ]]) 15:48, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
*'''Keep.''' famous book.,and famous slogan based on the book. There's no pt merging in somethignthat can be so easily expanded. Article are expected to grow. '''[[User:DGG| DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG| talk ]]) 15:48, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
<div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"><span style="color: #FF6600;">'''{{resize|91%|[[Wikipedia:Deletion process#Relisting discussions|Relisted]] to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.}}'''</span><br />
<div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"><span style="color: #FF6600;">'''{{resize|91%|[[Wikipedia:Deletion process#Relisting discussions|Relisted]] to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.}}'''</span><br />
<small>Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, [[User:Ansh666|ansh]][[User talk:Ansh666|<span style="font-size:80%">''666''</span>]] 02:31, 1 July 2016 (UTC)</small><!-- from Template:Relist --></div><!-- Please add new comments below this line -->
<small>Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, [[User:Ansh666|ansh]][[User talk:Ansh666|<span style="font-size:80%">''666''</span>]] 02:31, 1 July 2016 (UTC)</small><!-- from Template:Relist --><noinclude>[[Category:Relisted AfD debates|No Cross, No Crown]]</noinclude></div><!-- Please add new comments below this line -->
*'''Keep'''. One of Penn's most famous works. Neither deletion or merging would make sense. ---- [[User:Patar knight|Patar knight]] - <sup>[[User talk:Patar knight|chat]]</sup>/<sub>[[Special:Contributions/Patar knight|contributions]]</sub> 23:58, 2 July 2016 (UTC)
*'''Keep'''. One of Penn's most famous works. Neither deletion or merging would make sense. ---- [[User:Patar knight|Patar knight]] - <sup>[[User talk:Patar knight|chat]]</sup>/<sub>[[Special:Contributions/Patar knight|contributions]]</sub> 23:58, 2 July 2016 (UTC)
*'''Keep'''. It's notable Christian literature. See also https://archive.org/details/nocrossnocrown00penn [[User:Bpc.sg|Bpc.sg]] ([[User talk:Bpc.sg|talk]])
*'''Keep'''. It's notable Christian literature. See also https://archive.org/details/nocrossnocrown00penn [[User:Bpc.sg|Bpc.sg]] ([[User talk:Bpc.sg|talk]])
*'''Keep'''. As above - it needs addition content - but that should be added. :: [[User:Kevinalewis|<span style="color: #33C;">Kevinalewis</span>]] : [[User talk:Kevinalewis|<sup style="color:#C90">(Talk Page)</sup>]]/[[User:Kevinalewis/Desk|<sub style="color:#C90">(Desk)</sub>]] 14:23, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
*'''Keep''', added scholarly edition to article. A JSTOR search validates significance of text, for any editors with lingering doubts.[[User:E.M.Gregory|E.M.Gregory]] ([[User talk:E.M.Gregory|talk]]) 11:33, 7 July 2016 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' – Per all the above.<span style="text-shadow: 4px 4px 15px #FF9900, -4px -4px 15px #FF0099;">[[User:VictoriaGrayson|<b><font color="#0000FF">VictoriaGrayson</font></b>]]<sup>[[User talk:VictoriaGrayson|<b style="font-family:Helvetica Neue;color:#707">Talk</b>]]</sup></span> 23:25, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

{{clear}}
:''The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's [[Help:Using talk pages|talk page]] or in a [[Wikipedia:Deletion review|deletion review]]). No further edits should be made to this page. <!--Template:Afd bottom--></div>

Revision as of 14:23, 11 July 2016

No Cross, No Crown (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log · Stats)
(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs· FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Doesn't seem to meet WP:BKCRIT. There's not much in here that's not already covered in, or could easily be moved to, the main article about William Penn. Prof. Mc (talk) 20:46, 14 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Follow-up: I have merged the info from No Cross, No Crown into the article on William Penn. Prof. Mc (talk) 20:50, 14 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Literature-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 20:49, 14 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 20:49, 14 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Philosophy-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 20:49, 14 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Christianity-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 20:50, 14 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: So far I haven't found a lot of content that focuses on this writing specifically, which is slightly surprising given that Penn's article claims that this is one of his classic works. It's been repeatedly reprinted again and again since its initial creation, but when it is covered it tends to be in relation to Penn himself. Offhand I'm leaning towards a redirect with the history intact in the hopes that it could be restored one day if/when the coverage is found. Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 04:31, 15 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • (EC) I'm having trouble with this one, because the title of the book appears to have been adopted as a subsequent slogan--or perhaps was already in popular use as such before Penn titled the book--and specific coverage of this particular book is not obvious. Tentatively merging should be fine, because there's really no reason the entire text of the article can't be covered in the parent article, but I see no reason why it couldn't also be split back out if a larger article can be written on the book itself. Jclemens (talk) 04:33, 15 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 05:01, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Redirect -- I suspect that the Quakers may regard this as one of their early devotional works. I thus suspect it is a significant work. However this article does not say much that does not already appear in the article on William Penn; indeed that is if anything rather better. There is nothing to merge, but we might redirect to William Penn - section Persecutions, and categorise it as a redirect with possibilities. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:50, 28 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. famous book.,and famous slogan based on the book. There's no pt merging in somethignthat can be so easily expanded. Article are expected to grow. DGG ( talk ) 15:48, 30 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ansh666 02:31, 1 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]