Talk:T.J. Miller

R.I.P. Hud...

...best damn character in a fantastic film. WELL DONE, sir! 199.214.26.192 (talk) 20:48, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Spacing of "T.J."

I cannot be alone in finding this styling of the name bizarre, am I? I've never seen a space put between the letters "T._J." before; I've always understood it to be "T.J.", as in all other names of this sort. His own name listed on twitter is "T.J." (with no space). I'm seeing a number of articles in this style too... can someone point me to the discussion that resulted in this style? Shadowjams (talk) 19:53, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

Please see MOS:SPACEINITS. --Rob Sinden (talk) 11:22, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

Shadowjams is not alone. T.J. Miller has also questioned the spelling of his own name. https://www.facebook.com/wikiwhat/videos/110458719651405/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrazzle (talk • contribs) 11:28, 4 September 2017 (UTC)

So T.J. Miller himself said in the Esquire piece that he doesn't use or like the spaces in his name. So this is the reason to change the page name. As well as to reflect what he self-identifies as his name. So should Wikipedia ignore what he states is a fact? I don't understand why Wikipedia should be inaccurate. And Miller was not joking when he said he's a comedian, not an actor. He states this, is not joking when he says this fact. Again coming straight from the subject of this page. It is very common for comedians not to consider themselves actors. So this should be changed to reflect T.J.'s wishes. See video and article here: Bruney, Gabrielle; Gondelman, Josh; Miller, T.J. (3 September 2017). "Watch T.J. Miller Have a Check-Up with the Wikipediatrician" (Includes video). Esquire. -- BrillLyle (talk) 06:34, 6 September 2017 (UTC)

Article is too long

This article reads like an advertisement/resume rather than an encyclopedic article. Further, it's longer than his obscureness justifies. His career is worth maybe one or two sentences. There's no need to go into depth on someone who did maybe one movie that wasn't very popular or critically acclaimed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.215.169.241 (talk) 16:12, 10 December 2016 (UTC)

Requested move 14 January 2017

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: not moved. Clear consensus against one, and a move review for J. J. Watt may be in order. (non-admin closure) JudgeRM (talk to me) 18:20, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

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T. J. Miller → T.J. Miller – There is no consensus for always using spaces, nor for never using them. In this case, however, he is more commonly referred to without them.[1][2][3][4] Unreal7 (talk) 17:57, 14 January 2017 (UTC)

• Oppose. Merely a matter of style and Wikipedia's house style is as the article is currently titled. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:54, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
• Oppose per Necrothesp. See same general topic discussion at Talk:J.J. Watt#Requested move 2 December 2016. —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 09:19, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
• Oppose per Necrothesp. I must say that the close of J.J. Watt discussion mentioned by Roman Spinner was quite inappropriate and I would fill a move review had I been aware of it: WP:COMMONNAME ≠ WP:COMMONSTYLE No such user (talk) 12:57, 17 January 2017 (UTC)

Judging by the strongly-argued "Oppose" votes, the J. J. Watt → J.J. Watt nomination should have been closed as "No consensus", thus retaining the original "J. J." form. Since that close was less than three weeks ago, a move review is still a valid option. —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 00:25, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

Requested move 6 September 2017

T. J. Miller → T.J. Miller – Miller states he does not have a space between the two initials of his name in a video where he is actually correcting mistakes on his Wikipedia page. He is not joking, just states that he goes by T.J., not T. J. or TJ -- see link in prior section and in talk page box which refers to current press. Here it is: Bruney, Gabrielle; Gondelman, Josh; Miller, T.J. (3 September 2017). "Watch T.J. Miller Have a Check-Up with the Wikipediatrician" (Includes video). Esquire. BrillLyle (talk) 06:42, 6 September 2017 (UTC)

• Oppose Todd Joseph is T. space J. per MOS:INITIALS, which is part of WP:MOSBIO. We need a consistent style across Wikipedia to prevent duplicate article creation and mislinks among other reasons. This is life, any publishing project has a MOS. In ictu oculi (talk) 09:02, 6 September 2017 (UTC)
• Want to add after cleaning up about 2/3s of the citations on this page that every single one of the citations lists his name as T.J. Miller. The only time spaces are used is in Wikipedia. Whether or not it's a naming convention on Wikipedia, this is someone's name, for goodness' sake. It should be correct here. -- BrillLyle (talk) 09:24, 6 September 2017 (UTC)

Paid editing tag should be removed from page

Please see discussion here: WikiWhat, where the editor defends his tagging of this article as paid editing, which I believe is wrong and inaccurate.

The subject of the page, T.J. Miller, in no way paid the comedian and Wikipedia editor, Josh Gondelman aka Mrazzle (talk) to edit the page for him. So tagging this page as being part of some sort of nefarious paid editing experience is WRONG, is factually inaccurate.

Additionally, as the subject of a Biography of Living People (BLP), Miller is allowed to make changes with the help of a Wikipedia editor, especially to make corrections to his page if there are facts that are incorrect. This type of editing should be encouraged, not discouraged by putting an inaccurate tag on this page as well as others who participate in Wiki What. It is inappropriate and inaccurate to claim this is a situation where there is paid editing. The effect of adding this tag is essentially vandalism, and can be seen as a negative experience to editing Wikipedia, and could discourage outreach and engagement. The tag should be removed immediately. -- BrillLyle (talk) 06:51, 6 September 2017 (UTC)

I want to also add that I do not even care for this actor, and wouldn't spend time editing his page if not for the fact that he is the subject of the page, is clarifying inaccuracies, and for some reason editors are disregarding the corrections. I think this is wrong. I also think that I am suitably neutral as I am not a fan, so I should be able to make corrections and not have them be reverted like they have been. Please let me know that I can make changes to correct this entry. T.J.'s page should reflect what is correct. -- BrillLyle (talk) 06:54, 6 September 2017 (UTC)

• Support this was not paid editing and it's an important principle of WP:BLP that live subjects must be allowed to correct, or have corrected inaccuracies. I would encourage the next editor to remove that inappropriate tag ASAP. In ictu oculi (talk) 09:10, 6 September 2017 (UTC)