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:: {{od}} That edit is only my third revert within the 24 hour window of 13th May, 2021. So since i have not reverted a fourth time I still have not broken the [[Wikipedia:Edit warring#The three-revert rule|three-revert rule]] that day as I did not revert a fourth time. And the action I faced was an immediate infinite ban. [[User:Canterbury Tail|<b style="color: Blue;">Canterbury Tail</b>]] [[User:Dajo767|Dajo767]] ([[User talk:Dajo767#top|talk]]) 22:37, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
:: {{od}} That edit is only my third revert within the 24 hour window of 13th May, 2021. So since i have not reverted a fourth time I still have not broken the [[Wikipedia:Edit warring#The three-revert rule|three-revert rule]] that day as I did not revert a fourth time. And the action I faced was an immediate infinite ban. [[User:Canterbury Tail|<b style="color: Blue;">Canterbury Tail</b>]] [[User:Dajo767|Dajo767]] ([[User talk:Dajo767#top|talk]]) 22:37, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
:::Note you reverted 4 times. [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=World_language&type=revision&diff=1022935448&oldid=1022914758 1], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=World_language&type=revision&diff=1022981137&oldid=1022966094 2], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=World_language&type=revision&diff=1022987807&oldid=1022986296 3], & [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=World_language&type=revision&diff=1023014622&oldid=1023014220 4]. However if it was just an edit warring over reversion I wouldn't have blocked you for the period I did, It would only have been for 24 hours. It was everything else as well and then reverting a 4th time that pushed it over the edge. [[User:Canterbury Tail|<b style="color: Blue;">Canterbury Tail</b>]] [[User talk:Canterbury Tail|<i style="color: Blue;">talk</i>]] 02:08, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
:::Note you reverted 4 times. [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=World_language&type=revision&diff=1022935448&oldid=1022914758 1], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=World_language&type=revision&diff=1022981137&oldid=1022966094 2], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=World_language&type=revision&diff=1022987807&oldid=1022986296 3], & [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=World_language&type=revision&diff=1023014622&oldid=1023014220 4]. However if it was just an edit warring over reversion I wouldn't have blocked you for the period I did, It would only have been for 24 hours. It was everything else as well and then reverting a 4th time that pushed it over the edge. [[User:Canterbury Tail|<b style="color: Blue;">Canterbury Tail</b>]] [[User talk:Canterbury Tail|<i style="color: Blue;">talk</i>]] 02:08, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
::::[[User:Canterbury Tail|<b style="color: Blue;">Canterbury Tail</b>]] I understand my infractions and wikipedia policy violations, it was not just edit warring but personal attacks and general uncivil behavriour. I will remedy myself. Just another point: slapping a infinite block on me is seemingly too harsh for two reasons '''1)''' this is my first block I received and for the larger part of the 1,200 edit contributions I have made to wikipedia and wiktionary, I have tried to be co-operative. '''2)''' An infinite ban creates a distress in me as I am afraid that my case maybe pending before administrators and may stretch on for years, effectively making it a lifetime ban. This is distressing in light of the 1,200 contributions done in good faith over a squabble with another edit on the site. I thank you for considering my views. If you reduce my block length to a six month block, I am still willing to take this. i am not defending my actions or behaviour or accuse the other part as I am clearly in the wrong. But it is also worth noting that the other part used a deleted message on the userpage of [[User:Jeppiz|Jeppiz]] which lead me to me being banned. Also the user's whose userpage I posted it had no clear intention for such a consequence of a infinite block length to be slapped on me. (Check https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#User:Dajo767 ). Even though it is obviously clear that I am wrong, other editors active on talk page, besides the accusing user [[User:TompaDompa|TompaDompa]], users such as [[User:DLMcN|DLMcN]] [[User:LiliCharlie|LiliCharlie]] and [[User:Jeppiz|Jeppiz]] had no intention to have bee blocked - atleast not an infinite block. I urge you please to reduce my block length to a temporary one so I may not go through the anguish of a feeling of uncertainty [[User:Dajo767|Dajo767]] ([[User talk:Dajo767#top|talk]]) 08:10, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
::::[[User:Canterbury Tail|<b style="color: Blue;">Canterbury Tail</b>]] I understand my infractions and wikipedia policy violations, it was not just edit warring but personal attacks and general uncivil behavriour. I will remedy myself. Just another point: slapping a infinite block on me is seemingly too harsh for two reasons '''1)''' this is my first block I received and for the larger part of the 1,200 edit contributions I have made to wikipedia and wiktionary, I have tried to be co-operative. '''2)''' An infinite ban creates a distress in me as I am afraid that my case maybe pending before administrators and may stretch on for years, effectively making it a lifetime ban. This is distressing in light of the 1,200 contributions done in good faith over a squabble with another edit on the site. I thank you for considering my views. If you reduce my block length to a six month block, I am still willing to take this. i am not defending my actions or behaviour or accuse the other part as I am clearly in the wrong. But it is also worth noting that the other party used a deleted message on the userpage of [[User:Jeppiz|Jeppiz]] which lead me to me being banned. Also the user's whose userpage I posted it had no clear intention for such a consequence of a infinite block length to be slapped on me. (Check https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#User:Dajo767 ). Even though it is obviously clear that I am wrong, other editors active on talk page, besides the accusing user [[User:TompaDompa|TompaDompa]], users such as [[User:DLMcN|DLMcN]] [[User:LiliCharlie|LiliCharlie]] and [[User:Jeppiz|Jeppiz]] had no intention to have bee blocked - atleast not an infinite block. I urge you please to reduce my block length to a temporary one so I may not go through the anguish of a feeling of uncertainty [[User:Dajo767|Dajo767]] ([[User talk:Dajo767#top|talk]]) 08:10, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
I have over 1,000 plus contributions on wikipedia and this is my first ever block. And it is also an infinite block. This is too harsh. I understand my mistake. But this my first block from an editor who has above 1000 contributions. If I were given a temporary block, I am willing to accept it. So you can please change from an infinite to a temporary [[User:Yamla|Yamla]] [[User:Canterbury Tail|<b style="color: Blue;">Canterbury Tail</b>]] {{ping|Canterbury|Yamla}} . i am being accused of personal vendetta. I have no personal vendetta against TompaDoma . instead I was collaborating with him on improving this article at the begining. But when things were not going in co-operative manner the feuds started. Other contributors know the history. Why don't you see the talk section [[Talk:World_language|https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:World_language]] . In fact it was upon the said user's, [[User:TompaDompa|TompaDompa]], suggestion, with whom I have an alleged vendetta against, that I initially requested to add protection on the article. Here is it https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=974974902#Please_I_request_this_article_be_extend_protected_to_prevent_sockpuppets_from_editing. i worked with users [[User:DLMcN|DLMcN]] [[User:LiliCharlie|LiliCharlie]] and [[User:Jeppiz|Jeppiz]] and also TompaDoma. As you can see TompaDoma also once wrote this on the talk page {{tq|"I think it's important to retain the English>French>Spanish>Portuguese>other languages hierarchy to accurately reflect the sources, but otherwise I don't have much of an opinion about how to do it. This is not really a topic that I have a great interest in (I happened to come here while following a WP:SOCK that edited a page on my watchlist), so I doubt I will find the time to contribute much more on this page, I'm afraid. TompaDompa (talk) 20:10, 18 October 2020 (UTC) }}" at this talk page section [[Talk:World_language#Spanish_language_is_also_a_World_language|https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:World_language#Spanish_language_is_also_a_World_language]] . So it was initially only users [[User:DLMcN|DLMcN]] [[User:LiliCharlie|LiliCharlie]] and [[User:Jeppiz|Jeppiz]] and myslef involved in improving this article, but we did listen to some of TompaDoma's suggestions and there was no personal animosity among us and tompaDoma was generally inactive during the initial days. But on 6th February 2021 he started deleting large sections of the article withing a few hours, without prior discussion in the talk. he removed them one by one in a few hours. Then there was a temporary edit war between him and me as I was trying to restore the page as I did not know what he was doing as it was sudden. check https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=World_language&type=revision&diff=1005118279&oldid=1005110524 . you can also check the page history logs on 01:23, 6 February 2021 . As it came without any prior discussion and from TompaDoma who said who did not have enough time to contribute to this page earlier, I clearly did not understand. Atleast until this point there was no discord or animosity among us and as I said we considered his suggestions. But after the this initial surprise, i contacted two wikipedia administrators regarding the edit war issue, but they did not wish to intervene here. I appealed to them on the same day the first edit war occured See [[Talk:World_language#Request_for_Article_protection.|https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:World_language#Request_for_Article_protection.]] . But until then things were harmonious among us. If you can see all the talk page sections before that day and before this section [[Talk:World_language#Stop_disrupting_this_artcile.|https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:World_language#Stop_disrupting_this_artcile.]] you will find there was no arguments among us and no anger. I know after this things started becoming sour between me and [[User:TompaDompa|TompaDompa]], especially after the administrator declined to intervene. '''I apologize for the subsequent behavior directed at him. I ask that my block be changed from infinite to a temporary one atleast if not total unblock considering this is my first block and considering over 1000 edit contributions I made from this account''' [[User:Dajo767|Dajo767]] ([[User talk:Dajo767#top|talk]]) 21:46, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
I have over 1,000 plus contributions on wikipedia and this is my first ever block. And it is also an infinite block. This is too harsh. I understand my mistake. But this my first block from an editor who has above 1000 contributions. If I were given a temporary block, I am willing to accept it. So you can please change from an infinite to a temporary [[User:Yamla|Yamla]] [[User:Canterbury Tail|<b style="color: Blue;">Canterbury Tail</b>]] {{ping|Canterbury|Yamla}} . i am being accused of personal vendetta. I have no personal vendetta against TompaDoma . instead I was collaborating with him on improving this article at the begining. But when things were not going in co-operative manner the feuds started. Other contributors know the history. Why don't you see the talk section [[Talk:World_language|https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:World_language]] . In fact it was upon the said user's, [[User:TompaDompa|TompaDompa]], suggestion, with whom I have an alleged vendetta against, that I initially requested to add protection on the article. Here is it https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=974974902#Please_I_request_this_article_be_extend_protected_to_prevent_sockpuppets_from_editing. i worked with users [[User:DLMcN|DLMcN]] [[User:LiliCharlie|LiliCharlie]] and [[User:Jeppiz|Jeppiz]] and also TompaDoma. As you can see TompaDoma also once wrote this on the talk page {{tq|"I think it's important to retain the English>French>Spanish>Portuguese>other languages hierarchy to accurately reflect the sources, but otherwise I don't have much of an opinion about how to do it. This is not really a topic that I have a great interest in (I happened to come here while following a WP:SOCK that edited a page on my watchlist), so I doubt I will find the time to contribute much more on this page, I'm afraid. TompaDompa (talk) 20:10, 18 October 2020 (UTC) }}" at this talk page section [[Talk:World_language#Spanish_language_is_also_a_World_language|https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:World_language#Spanish_language_is_also_a_World_language]] . So it was initially only users [[User:DLMcN|DLMcN]] [[User:LiliCharlie|LiliCharlie]] and [[User:Jeppiz|Jeppiz]] and myslef involved in improving this article, but we did listen to some of TompaDoma's suggestions and there was no personal animosity among us and tompaDoma was generally inactive during the initial days. But on 6th February 2021 he started deleting large sections of the article withing a few hours, without prior discussion in the talk. he removed them one by one in a few hours. Then there was a temporary edit war between him and me as I was trying to restore the page as I did not know what he was doing as it was sudden. check https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=World_language&type=revision&diff=1005118279&oldid=1005110524 . you can also check the page history logs on 01:23, 6 February 2021 . As it came without any prior discussion and from TompaDoma who said who did not have enough time to contribute to this page earlier, I clearly did not understand. Atleast until this point there was no discord or animosity among us and as I said we considered his suggestions. But after the this initial surprise, i contacted two wikipedia administrators regarding the edit war issue, but they did not wish to intervene here. I appealed to them on the same day the first edit war occured See [[Talk:World_language#Request_for_Article_protection.|https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:World_language#Request_for_Article_protection.]] . But until then things were harmonious among us. If you can see all the talk page sections before that day and before this section [[Talk:World_language#Stop_disrupting_this_artcile.|https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:World_language#Stop_disrupting_this_artcile.]] you will find there was no arguments among us and no anger. I know after this things started becoming sour between me and [[User:TompaDompa|TompaDompa]], especially after the administrator declined to intervene. '''I apologize for the subsequent behavior directed at him. I ask that my block be changed from infinite to a temporary one atleast if not total unblock considering this is my first block and considering over 1000 edit contributions I made from this account''' [[User:Dajo767|Dajo767]] ([[User talk:Dajo767#top|talk]]) 21:46, 13 May 2021 (UTC)



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March 2018

Please stop your disruptive editing.

If you continue to disrupt Wikipedia, as you did at Counter-Strike (video game), you may be blocked from editing. -- ferret (talk) 21:43, 18 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

User-generated sources

Hi there. I've stumbled across some of your edits. Please familiarize yourself with WP:USERG - in short, sources that anyone can edit (Wikipedia, Liquidpedia, any wiki/wikia really) cannot be used as a source on Wikipedia, because they can be altered by the public at any time. It looks like someone told you this yesterday, but you're still using this as recently as today. Please stop doing this as to avoid being blocked from editing. Thanks. Sergecross73 msg me 14:24, 19 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It's not appropriate to "add a bad source until you can find a good one". Find a good source first, and then add the content. It can wait. And yes, continually adding unreliable/unusable source can eventually lead to a short block. I figured it was worth mentioning, since you had already ignored others telling you this.
Additionally, please familiarize yourself with WP:OSE as well - alluding to other shortcomings on Wikipedia does not absolve you of blame of making bad edits yourself. So please, stop arguing and just cease using WP:USERG type sources. Thank you. Sergecross73 msg me 14:46, 19 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, please read WP:V. Everything needs to be verified with reliable sources on Wikipedia. Not sure what you mean by that last part. I am an Admin. And I'm going to take action if you don't stop. Sergecross73 msg me 14:55, 19 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Sergecross73 Alright, admin, with all due respect I got a question for you: If I have a newspaper article with me on hardcopy, but I don't find the same story on the newspaper's website, is it possible for me to scan or photograph that article and use that as a source on a wikipedia article? Would it be a good source? (Particularly relevant in my country as internet penetration is low and most of the information is disseminated through newspapers). Dajo767 (talk) 15:42, 19 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Should we not include Babylon?

I very much like to suggest that Babylon be included. It was the capital of the Achaemenid Empire and also the birth place of the Jewish Religion. Dajo767 (talk) 07:49, 2 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Wish

Hello. Help improvements for article Maureen Wroblewitz. Thanks you. 125.214.50.221 (talk) 09:33, 10 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

ok Dajo767 (talk) 10:03, 10 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hello sir

Sir can you edit actor Vijay profile picture Sachingsuresh (talk) 07:28, 12 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, give me few days. I have to setup the photoediting softwares for my PC. Dajo767 (talk) 09:25, 12 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank you for this information. I will keep this information in memory. Have a nice day Leschnei Dajo767 (talk) 00:03, 20 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Information icon Hello, I'm Cyphoidbomb. Wikipedia is written by people who have a wide diversity of opinions, but we try hard to make sure articles have a neutral point of view. Your recent edit to Vijay (actor) seemed less than neutral and has been removed. If you think this was a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Diff: [1] We don't use hyperbolic labels like "blockbuster", "super hit", "flop", "failure", "disaster", etc. Further, any attempt to summarise critical or commercial response needs to be supported by a citation from a reliable source, not pulled out of our own minds. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:11, 20 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Cyphoidbomb "We don't use hyperbolic labels like "blockbuster", "super hit", "flop", "failure", "disaster", etc." is that a wikipedia policy? If so, please guide me. Dajo767 (talk) 07:18, 21 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Butting in - Dajo767, start here and here. Leschnei (talk) 13:56, 21 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Dajo767 - Hi there, re: your comments on my talk page I'm responding on your talk page instead, just so you have the info handy.
  • "I only wrote what I learned from about the film he acted." - We can't write about our own personal observations/beliefs/impressions. This is considered original research. As noted on your page, any attempt to summarise critical or commercial response, or any other opinion, needs to be directly attributed to to the source that has that opinion.
  • "Vijay actor article just seems to be written by Vijay fans, meaning, i don't think the article and it's style of writing meets wikipedia neutrality standards. - Yeah, you're probably correct. We've had an ongoing problem with a disruptive user in particular who kept fluffing up the article to only focus on positive, feel-good facts about Vijay, instead of presenting an objective perspective about the subject. If you look through the article's edit history, you will find him under different account names, Rtyu33, Solomonyuu, Wecanne, Tomjackie, Starunique, Bothiman, etc. "I became his fan after his speech he is a very good person i will never add any thing negative about him"
  • "about use of hyperbolics, I don't find any wikipedia policy outlining rules against use of such words." Hyperbolic language is just another way to give weight to opinions, especially opinions held by the person adding the content. What objectively, is the difference between a blockbuster and a super-hit? Does a film have to gross twice its budget to be average? 2.5 times its budget to be a hit? Or do we care about entertainment taxes and "nett gross"? There is no objective way to differentiate these labels, and every resource has their own valuation system based on whatever complicated (or not) rules they have.
  • The more specific answer to your question is WP:NPOV, which I linked to in my first note to you. It says: "Avoid stating opinions as facts". "Prefer nonjudgmental language". If someone at Times of India writes "The film is declared all-time blockbuster status!" or "the film is declared a failure!", those are their opinions. We can incorporate those opinions into our articles, if properly attributed, but we don't regurgitate those opinions verbatim, because the tone is often inappropriate for inclusion. If a reviewer wrote, "the film is a pile of shit", we would probably find a more neutral way to summarise that information. Ex: Rotten Tomatoes uses "fresh" and "rotten" labels, yet we do not use these labels in articles. We use neutral language like "the film received generally negative response from critics". See also WP:PUFFERY, which discourages us from using exaggerated, fluffy language. See also WP:LABEL, which discourages us from using contentious labels. These are the more specific answers to your questions.
  • "Furthermore, wikipedia is encyclopedia, designed for common people to read and easily understand, not a scientific paper or philoshpical theisis." I'm not quite sure what argument you are making here. That we should use snappy, casual, label-laden language for the common folk? Encyclopedias don't have personalities. They shouldn't read like a blog or sound like someone's opinionated cousin. We present information neutrally, in a clear, professional writing style. We're not here to pander to people's need for exciting prose, or for their need to put every little thing into a well-labeled box.
Hope this all helps. Sorry it's long. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 14:13, 21 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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World language

In the article, the Spanish language has always been considered global, if you do not agree, I recommend opening a discussion thread or waiting for an agreement to be reached in the existing ones.

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Greetings FornesNF (talk) 15:10, 23 July 2020 (UTC) struck comment by sockpuppet of banned user JamesOredan --IamNotU (talk) 18:51, 27 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Dajo - Before making changes in any article, it is always better to first come into its "Talk-File" to discuss the subject and to explain your reasoning - thereby giving other editors the opportunity to comment. --DLMcN (talk) 16:18, 23 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Raised the topic in the talk section of the concerned article World Language Dajo767 (talk) 17:33, 23 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Dajo767, fyi I struck out the comment above because the user is banned from Wikipedia, and not permitted to participate in discussions. You probably know this already, but the comment is also incorrect - Wikipedia encourages editors to be WP:BOLD; it's not necessary to get consensus on a talk page before changing something. It's a good idea to do it if you're not sure, but it's not required. If anyone objects to your edits, then you do need to go to the talk page. I hope this helps... --IamNotU (talk) 18:51, 27 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@IamNotU Thank you for your watch and blocking the sockpuppet of the disruptor. Also I thank your for your comment and advise. Happy editing Dajo767 (talk) 20:58, 27 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies

Hi, I was editing too hastily and completely misinterpreted recent edits at world language. You had done a good job reverting some recent POV pushing, and - looking at it too quickly - I got it wrong. Have fixed my own mess now. Again, apologies for this, thanks for your edits and keep up the good work! Jeppiz (talk) 16:13, 23 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I understand @Jeppiz. We are always busy, and mistakes are bound to happen during these times. Happy editing. Dajo767 (talk) 18:07, 23 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Supra-regional languages in world languages

Hi there, I understand that you are in the midst of an edit war at World language and do not want to partake in any part by adding further fuel to it. Regarding the recent revert of my edit to include German and Portuguese on the list, I understand where you're coming from by having the list kept as official languages of the UN. Nevertheless, I feel that it was better to have kept these two under the smaller "supra-regional" section as before your complete removal of them.

Of course, they are not global languages like English and French but they play just as much of important roles in regional and international affairs as say, Mandarin and Arabic, and are included as international languages in reputable sources. I'd be happy to hear your thoughts on this. Moalli (talk) 08:14, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Moalli Ok thank you for this message. I will add them back into that smaller category, like before, once again back once the heat of this battle subsides, maybe in a day or two. Can I ask you to be patient until then? Dajo767 (talk) 08:26, 10 February 2021 (UTC). Oh and quickly I also removed them from the template 'Varieties of World languages'. I will add Portuguese and German back in two days. Dajo767 (talk) 08:32, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Of course, also best of luck with the edit conflict. Thank you for your diligence maintaining a neutral POV! - Moalli (talk) 08:37, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

February 2021

Warning icon Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to violate Wikipedia's no original research policy by adding your personal analysis or synthesis into articles, as you did at World language, you may be blocked from editing. Sources need to directly support the material they are cited for. Your assertion that being an official and working language of the United Nations makes something a world language is a textbook example of original research. TompaDompa (talk) 11:14, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Dajo - TompaDompa is right... Listen to what he says - (in fact, perhaps even give your editing a break for a while). --DLMcN (talk) 11:57, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Stop icon You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you disrupt Wikipedia, as you did at World language. Love —LiliCharlie (talk) 21:38, 13 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Please go ahead - who cares? You dont respect Wikipedia Neutrality policy and use biased sources Dajo767 (talk) 21:59, 13 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

As I suggested that you do, I have now started a discussion at WP:NPOVN, see Wikipedia:Neutral point of view/Noticeboard#World language. TompaDompa (talk) 20:11, 27 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Information icon There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. TompaDompa (talk) 18:50, 13 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@TompaDompa: TompaDompa please never write messages on my talk page again. Dajo767 (talk) 19:10, 13 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

TompaDompa is obligated to inform you of an ANI post if one is raised. Canterbury Tail talk 19:31, 13 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

3RR

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Blocked

You have been blocked indefinitely from editing Wikipedia. Your clear cut ownership of articles, your personal vendetta against another user, completely unacceptable personal attacks against another editor, your unwillingness to listen to other editors and much more. And to top it all off, after having been warned for edit warring and of the 3RR, and in the middle of a thread discussing your edit warring and other activities, you decided to perform yet another revert and removal of edits, well words just fail me. Normally for a first block I would just do a temp block, but since you have your fingers completely in your ears and are running afoul of WP:IDIDNTHEARTHAT it's just going straight to an indefinite block. You can try and request an unblock and another admin will review.

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Request reason:

I did not do any further reverting. As per the discussion at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#User:Dajo767 I was informed about how placing another username's on the template was wrong. All I did was abide by this warning and remove the username from this template as did in no way perform any sort of reverting. I just updated the reasons due to warning of placing the name of the user on the templates. Dajo767 (talk) 20:51, 13 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

Edit warring was only one small part of the problem here. Yamla (talk) 20:52, 13 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]


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Also it should be noted that this is the edit in question. You reverted someone else putting a template in there about something not being sourced with the claim that there's no dispute over this. Which there clearly is, someone put the template in. Matter is, you removed it which is a revert. Canterbury Tail talk 20:55, 13 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
That edit is only my third revert within the 24 hour window of 13th May, 2021. So since i have not reverted a fourth time I still have not broken the three-revert rule that day as I did not revert a fourth time. And the action I faced was an immediate infinite ban. Canterbury Tail Dajo767 (talk) 22:37, 13 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Note you reverted 4 times. 1, 2, 3, & 4. However if it was just an edit warring over reversion I wouldn't have blocked you for the period I did, It would only have been for 24 hours. It was everything else as well and then reverting a 4th time that pushed it over the edge. Canterbury Tail talk 02:08, 14 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Canterbury Tail I understand my infractions and wikipedia policy violations, it was not just edit warring but personal attacks and general uncivil behavriour. I will remedy myself. Just another point: slapping a infinite block on me is seemingly too harsh for two reasons 1) this is my first block I received and for the larger part of the 1,200 edit contributions I have made to wikipedia and wiktionary, I have tried to be co-operative. 2) An infinite ban creates a distress in me as I am afraid that my case maybe pending before administrators and may stretch on for years, effectively making it a lifetime ban. This is distressing in light of the 1,200 contributions done in good faith over a squabble with another edit on the site. I thank you for considering my views. If you reduce my block length to a six month block, I am still willing to take this. i am not defending my actions or behaviour or accuse the other part as I am clearly in the wrong. But it is also worth noting that the other party used a deleted message on the userpage of Jeppiz which lead me to me being banned. Also the user's whose userpage I posted it had no clear intention for such a consequence of a infinite block length to be slapped on me. (Check https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#User:Dajo767 ). Even though it is obviously clear that I am wrong, other editors active on talk page, besides the accusing user TompaDompa, users such as DLMcN LiliCharlie and Jeppiz had no intention to have bee blocked - atleast not an infinite block. I urge you please to reduce my block length to a temporary one so I may not go through the anguish of a feeling of uncertainty Dajo767 (talk) 08:10, 14 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I have over 1,000 plus contributions on wikipedia and this is my first ever block. And it is also an infinite block. This is too harsh. I understand my mistake. But this my first block from an editor who has above 1000 contributions. If I were given a temporary block, I am willing to accept it. So you can please change from an infinite to a temporary Yamla Canterbury Tail @Canterbury and Yamla: . i am being accused of personal vendetta. I have no personal vendetta against TompaDoma . instead I was collaborating with him on improving this article at the begining. But when things were not going in co-operative manner the feuds started. Other contributors know the history. Why don't you see the talk section https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:World_language . In fact it was upon the said user's, TompaDompa, suggestion, with whom I have an alleged vendetta against, that I initially requested to add protection on the article. Here is it https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=974974902#Please_I_request_this_article_be_extend_protected_to_prevent_sockpuppets_from_editing. i worked with users DLMcN LiliCharlie and Jeppiz and also TompaDoma. As you can see TompaDoma also once wrote this on the talk page "I think it's important to retain the English>French>Spanish>Portuguese>other languages hierarchy to accurately reflect the sources, but otherwise I don't have much of an opinion about how to do it. This is not really a topic that I have a great interest in (I happened to come here while following a WP:SOCK that edited a page on my watchlist), so I doubt I will find the time to contribute much more on this page, I'm afraid. TompaDompa (talk) 20:10, 18 October 2020 (UTC)" at this talk page section https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:World_language#Spanish_language_is_also_a_World_language . So it was initially only users DLMcN LiliCharlie and Jeppiz and myslef involved in improving this article, but we did listen to some of TompaDoma's suggestions and there was no personal animosity among us and tompaDoma was generally inactive during the initial days. But on 6th February 2021 he started deleting large sections of the article withing a few hours, without prior discussion in the talk. he removed them one by one in a few hours. Then there was a temporary edit war between him and me as I was trying to restore the page as I did not know what he was doing as it was sudden. check https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=World_language&type=revision&diff=1005118279&oldid=1005110524 . you can also check the page history logs on 01:23, 6 February 2021 . As it came without any prior discussion and from TompaDoma who said who did not have enough time to contribute to this page earlier, I clearly did not understand. Atleast until this point there was no discord or animosity among us and as I said we considered his suggestions. But after the this initial surprise, i contacted two wikipedia administrators regarding the edit war issue, but they did not wish to intervene here. I appealed to them on the same day the first edit war occured See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:World_language#Request_for_Article_protection. . But until then things were harmonious among us. If you can see all the talk page sections before that day and before this section https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:World_language#Stop_disrupting_this_artcile. you will find there was no arguments among us and no anger. I know after this things started becoming sour between me and TompaDompa, especially after the administrator declined to intervene. I apologize for the subsequent behavior directed at him. I ask that my block be changed from infinite to a temporary one atleast if not total unblock considering this is my first block and considering over 1000 edit contributions I made from this account Dajo767 (talk) 21:46, 13 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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I apologize for the subsequent behavior directed at him. I ask that my block be changed from infinite to a temporary one if not total unblock as this is my first block and also considering more than 1000 edit contributions to wikipedia Dajo767 (talk) 22:09, 13 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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As to the accusation of ownership , it was the user TompaDompa who deleted every other contributor's edits and replaced it with his own. You can check https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=World_language&type=revision&diff=1020937438&oldid=1005959032 . You can see the older version on as of 08:01, 10 February 2021 has contributions from other contributors including TompaDoma . But the version as of 23:06, 1 May 2021 has only TompaDoma's edits and contributions. I know my behaviour was wrong but it was not me who is guilty of ownership , and if they see correctly they may know who is really guilty for ownership. But I know the behaviour and language used at TompaDoma was wrong. I urge the administrators to see that TompaDompa used a deleted section of Jeppiz 's talk to have me blocked. This was not what Jeppiz wanted. I understand it was wrong on my part to call his and attack him personally, and I know my mistake. But why don't the administrators see that the judgement to place an infinite ban for a first ban for an experienced editor with 1000 contributions is harsh ? Dajo767 (talk) 22:28, 13 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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I understand my guilt and I wish to continue contributing to wikipedia without repating the past violations Dajo767 (talk) 23:20, 13 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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UTRS

User is requesting unblock at UTRS appeal #43301 --Deepfriedokra (talk) 23:23, 13 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

UTRS appeal #43301 is now closed. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 01:43, 14 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Suggestion

I see two open (i.e. neither accepted nor denied) unblock requests on this page, and AFAICT you still have talk page access. I see from a posting that you have also requested unblocking via UTRS, something generally only necessary if you lost talk page access. This suggests at one time you had 3 open unblock requests, maybe still do if the UTRS request wasn't quickly denied. This is never a good sign. There's never a reason you need more than one, if you have something else to say, either close your earlier request/s yourself or just add new comments below as you sort of did anyway. Also as for your unblock request and subsequent comments, I suggest you read WP:NOTTHEM. Finally, I'd note you were challenged at ANI by an uninvolved admin on your personal attacks before blocking. As several editors pointed out, your response left a lot to be desired. Your defence in part seemed to be pointing towards out personal attacks you made. Another part of your defence was suggesting it was out of context. However I cannot imagine many situations on Wikipedia where context really matters when you said "And do not forget that he uses misdirection and manipulation - a psychopathic editor". Actually, offhand, the only situations I can think where it matters would be if you were quoting someone or if it was a joke. Maybe a simple acknowledgment you were wrong and the language used was unacceptable would have been enough at ANI, but I suggest you try to do better when requesting an unblock. Especially if there's a big 'but' thrown into said acknowledgment. Nil Einne (talk) 01:21, 14 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Nil Einne Thank you for these suggestions my request at UTRS was closed and I am still blocked. Unfortunately I lost my tracking code to check the decision, but I know from a message which an admin from UTRS posted above. If I asked if you could appeal to an admin on my behalf, and convince him that I understand my guilt and will not further attempt to violate Wikipedia codes, will you do it to have my unblocked again, so that I may continue contributing? Dajo767 (talk) 02:09, 14 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]