User talk:Wikaviani

New Page Patrol December Newsletter

Hello Wikaviani,

Year in review

It has been a productive year for New Page Patrol as we've roughly cut the size of the New Page Patrol queue in half this year. We have been fortunate to have a lot of great work done by Rosguill who was the reviewer of the most pages and redirects this past year. Thanks and credit go to JTtheOG and Onel5969 who join Rosguill in repeating in the top 10 from last year. Thanks to John B123, Hughesdarren, and Mccapra who all got the NPR permission this year and joined the top 10. Also new to the top ten is DannyS712 bot III, programmed by DannyS712 which has helped to dramatically reduce the number of redirects that have needed human patrolling by patrolling certain types of redirects (e.g. for differences in accents) and by also patrolling editors who are on on the redirect whitelist.

Rank	Username	Num reviews	Log
1	DannyS712 bot III (talk)	67,552	Patrol Page Curation
2	Rosguill (talk)	63,821	Patrol Page Curation
3	John B123 (talk)	21,697	Patrol Page Curation
4	Onel5969 (talk)	19,879	Patrol Page Curation
5	JTtheOG (talk)	12,901	Patrol Page Curation
6	Mcampany (talk)	9,103	Patrol Page Curation
7	DragonflySixtyseven (talk)	6,401	Patrol Page Curation
8	Mccapra (talk)	4,918	Patrol Page Curation
9	Hughesdarren (talk)	4,520	Patrol Page Curation
10	Utopes (talk)	3,958	Patrol Page Curation

Reviewer of the Year

John B123 has been named reviewer of the year for 2020. John has held the permission for just over 6 months and in that time has helped cut into the queue by reviewing more than 18,000 articles. His talk page shows his efforts to communicate with users, upholding NPP's goal of nurturing new users and quality over quantity.

NPP Technical Achievement Award

As a special recognition and thank you DannyS712 has been awarded the first NPP Technical Achievement Award. His work programming the bot has helped us patrol redirects tremendously - more than 60,000 redirects this past year. This has been a large contribution to New Page Patrol and definitely is worthy of recognition.

Six Month Queue Data: Today – 2262 Low – 2232 High – 10271

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18:17, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

Doogh Ayran Debacle

Hi Wikaviani, you seem like a very respectful and responsible editor with a lot of experince here. I see you're debating in good faith and appreciate it. I was wondering if you and I could co-operate on making the case for (and then properly splitting into) two separate articles, regardless of the outcome of the existing move request.

We'd have a better argument for two different products if we can build on the the Farsi-language videos that are in the links: just based on watching these, it is obvious to me that the the traditional doogh being prepared in the videos is a product that is much closer to buttermilk than it is to yoghurt-water.

That is to say, a good argument might be that

• doogh is a an Iranian fermented dairy drink traditionally made from the byproduct of churning butter, and is also made in its modern form by diluting yoghurt with water and adding salt
• whereas ayran is a fermented dairy drink made by diluting yoghurt with water and adding salt.

Can I expect that you'd be able to help me with this since you are able to speak the Farsi language? Wikabulary (talk) 00:09, 11 December 2020 (UTC)

Hi, thank you for posting here. I will be glad to help if i can, but please keep in mind that videos (youtube, dailymotion, etc ...) are not reliable sources.---Wikaviani ^{(talk) (contribs)} 21:45, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

Thanks Wikaviani!

1. Agreed that youtube might be a poor source but RS content can exist on it, right? (e.g., a new york times or CNN news clip). It seems that the video citation in this article for 'doogh' is from an Afghan news channel. There is a citation on wiktionary attesting 'doogh' from like 800 years ago as well (as a dairy drink made by butter churning). Seems like modern 'doogh' refers to a yoghurt based drink, but to prevent a merge of the upcoming articles, we'd have to separate 'doogh' sources from 'ayran' sources to a degree, and this traditional prep method would be a good start to this.

2. What is the next step? Where/how do we start a split (I am a novice user)? Do we need to start a request in the talk section or just make a separate ayran/doogh article?Wikabulary (talk) 23:47, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

References

1. Wikipedia uses reliable published sources, thus, a video, even from a well-known media outlet would not be considered as a good source, unless a published version of it exists.

2. You can create an article about Ayran, like about any other topic that is supported by reliable published sources, no need to to make a request, but if your article is deleted, then the burden will be on you to convince fellow Wikipedians that your article about Ayran is legit and relevant.---Wikaviani ^{(talk) (contribs)} 18:49, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

Wikaviani, note that particular editor has been here since 5 December 2020. Also note how said "new editor" appears to know a lot about Wikipedia policies(see:Talk:Doogh). Note their first edit, a "new user's" first edit is to post a request move on an article talk page? Rather intricate for a "new user". --Kansas Bear (talk) 19:45, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for your insight. Best.---Wikaviani ^{(talk) (contribs)} 22:22, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

Merry Christmas

	Merry Christmas Wikaviani
	Hi Wikaviani, I wish you and your family a very Merry Christmas and a very happy and healthy New Year, Thank you for all your contributions to Wikipedia,    –Davey2010Talk 20:12, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

Many thanks Davey2010, i wish you and yours a merry Christmas and a great new year too ! Cheers.---Wikaviani ^{(talk) (contribs)} 14:23, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

Yo Ho Ho

M.Bitton (talk) is wishing a foaming mug of Seasons Greetings! Whether you celebrate your hemisphere's Solstice or Christmas, Diwali, Hogmanay, Hanukkah, Lenaia, Festivus or even the Saturnalia, this is a special time of year for almost everyone!

Spread the holiday cheer by adding {{subst:User:WereSpielChequers/Dec20}} to your friends' talk pages.

Thank you very much M.Bitton, likewise ! Cheers !---Wikaviani ^{(talk) (contribs)} 14:26, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays

Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2021!

Hello Wikaviani, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this seasonal occasion. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2021. Happy editing, Wario-Man (talk) 13:39, 25 December 2020 (UTC) Spread the love by adding {{subst:Seasonal Greetings}} to other user talk pages.

Many thanks Wario-Man, i wish you and yours a merry Christmas and a happy new year ! Take care. Cheers.---Wikaviani ^{(talk) (contribs)} 14:31, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

Yo Ho Ho

JBL (talk) is wishing a foaming mug of Seasons Greetings! Whether you celebrate your hemisphere's Solstice or Christmas, Diwali, Hogmanay, Hanukkah, Lenaia, Festivus or even the Saturnalia, this is a special time of year for almost everyone!

Spread the holiday cheer by adding {{subst:User:WereSpielChequers/Dec20}} to your friends' talk pages.

Thank you very much JBL, i wish you and yours a merry Christmas and a great new year ! Cheers !---Wikaviani ^{(talk) (contribs)} 14:34, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!

If angels sung a Savior’s birth, On that auspicious morn, We well may imitate their mirth, Now He again is born! If stars in heav'n shone bright as day To light the manger throne, We should rejoice as well as they That love doth reign alone. All Glory be to God on high, And to the earth be peace; Goodwill henceforth from heav'n to men Begin and never cease. - "Milford" by Joseph Stephenson, text anonymous

--Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 21:01, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

Happy New Year!

	Happy New Year!
	Hello Wikaviani: Did you know ... that back in 1885, Wikipedia editors wrote Good Articles with axes, hammers and chisels? Thank you for your contributions to this encyclopedia using 21st century technology. I hope you don't get any unnecessary blisters. CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 23:19, 30 December 2020 (UTC)

Spread the WikiLove; use {{subst:Happy New Year elves}} to send this message

Hi CAPTAIN RAJU, thanks very much for the kind wishes, much appreciated. I wish you and yours a happy new year too. Cheers.---Wikaviani ^{(talk) (contribs)} 23:57, 30 December 2020 (UTC)

Helpful site

Search for books on this site.[2] --Kansas Bear (talk) 00:57, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

Thank you very much Kansas Bear ! Cheers !---Wikaviani ^{(talk) (contribs)} 20:20, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

Medo-Babylonian conquest of the Assyrian Empire

Hello! I'm currently working on the article of Nabopolassar and I found this source, which goes into quite a lot of detail on Assyria's final war. I'll be using it in Nabopolassar's article and to beef up Sinsharishkun and possibly Revolt of Babylon (626 BC) (which maybe should be merged into Medo-Babylonian conquest of the Assyrian Empire since it's a different stage of the same conflict?), but I thought I'd let you know since you might want to expand Medo-Babylonian conquest of the Assyrian Empire a bit with the source. I could do it myself as well, but considering you've done most of the work there and recently got it to GA I thought you might be interested in doing it yourself (also a good way to avoid the wording in all the articles from becoming essentially the same). Ichthyovenator (talk) 09:49, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

Hey Ichthyovenator, thank you so much for the source, i will take the time to investigate it in details in about 2 or 3 weeks, when i have the time to do that in good conditions. Besides, yeah, merging Revolt of Babylon (626 BC) into Medo-Babylonian conquest of the Assyrian Empire sounds good, as per your rationale. Best regards.---Wikaviani ^{(talk) (contribs)} 22:46, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Regarding a sockpuppetry investigation

Hi Wikaviani, I recently handled a sockpuppet investigations case against you (see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Wikaviani/Archive). I do not believe that the IP editor or editors from that case are you, but after re-reading the case I believe that the evidence suggests that you might be coordinating with that person, so I would like to remind you of our policies on meatpuppetry and canvassing. If I'm wrong and you are not coordinating with this other person, then I apologize for the incorrect accusation. GeneralNotability (talk) 02:34, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

Hi GeneralNotability, firstly, let me say that i'm not that person and no worries, i accept your apologies. I took a look at the SPI case and the thread on your talk and since you're not a Checkuser, i'll give you some perspective about all this. I'm a Frenchman (you can verify this quite easily with a checkuser) of Iranian descent, we have a proverb here, in France, (attributed to Talleyrand, if i'm not mistaken) that says "méfiez vous de la première impression car c'est souvent la bonne", that means "beware of the first impression because it is often the right one". Your first impression was the correct one, being of Iranian descent, i often edit Iran-related topics, and there is nothing surprising that other Iranian editors (Ips or registered) often edit these topics too. If i was one (or all) of the disruptive IPs, or, if they were my buddies, then why would i revert them here and here again ? and why would i file a RPP to prevent further disruption ? Why would the IP post a "warning message" on my talk accusing me of "Arab propaganda" ? Also, there was some other disruption not mentioned by Apaugasma : [3], [4], [5], [6] which proves that these articles are targetted by trolls, thus, nothing surprising with the surge of disruptive editors sometimes. There are other arguments that would show you that i have nothing to do with the disruptive editors, but i don't want to disclose them on my public talk, i could clarify by email if you want. Maybe a checkuser would also be useful. Please let me know if you think i'm mistaken. Cheers.---Wikaviani ^{(talk) (contribs)} 09:56, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

Wikaviani, thanks for the reply. I don't need anything private, I wanted to give you that notice in case you were associated with the person behind that IP. Between the diffs you linked and your explanations, I'm satisfied that you're not connected. Please accept my apologies for the incorrect accusation. Best, GeneralNotability (talk) 23:54, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

Hi

I wonder what you think of the changes on the page Turks in Algeria and can you look at the talk page there, whats your opinion?Loveisthebest1 (talk) 19:36, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

How my explanation about the current environment of my mother town city (Zanjan), can be counted as an advertising item !!!???

Hi Ms. Sahar Khodayari (Wikaviani), Your reply made me confused. You mentioned that "your edit to the page Talk:Iranian Azerbaijanis, seem to be advertising" but I can't understand how my explanation about the current environment of my mother-town city, can be counted as an advertising item !!!??? And unfortunately it looks my comment was removed from the list, probably because of that wrong misleading (advertising issue !!!) but as you definitely know, that wasn't advertising item at all. Regards, Behnam Behnam.Zanjan (talk) 07:07, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

User talk:Behnam.Zanjan From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Jump to navigationJump to search Welcome! Hello, Behnam.Zanjan, and welcome to Wikipedia. We appreciate encyclopedic contributions, but some of your recent contributions, such as your edit to the page Talk:Iranian Azerbaijanis, seem to be advertising or for promotional purposes. Wikipedia does not allow advertising. For more information on this, please see:

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Hi, your comment on the article's talk page was not supported by any source, that's why i (and another editor) reverted it. Best.---Wikaviani ^{(talk) (contribs)} 21:30, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

Nomination of 2021 Avignon shooting for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article 2021 Avignon shooting is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2021 Avignon shooting until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article.

Sakiv (talk) 00:20, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

@Sakiv: Thanks for the courtesy note.---Wikaviani ^{(talk) (contribs)} 17:14, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

[Mehmed the Conqueror]]

Hi, what was wrong with my edit at Mehmed the Conqueror. I added source and respected Wikipedia rules. Please guide me to correct any errors if any. --82.76.0.201 (talk)