Talk:Spotify

Proposed merge of Criticism of Spotify into Spotify#Criticism

Criticism of Spotify is really nothing but a attack page, evident through it's nonexistant balance and no mentions or representations of Spotify's responses to the vast majority of claims. There is also instances of original research that presents personal statements and opinions of Spotify staff from personal social media pages as though company policy or statements. Although I think that the article could probably just be deleted outright, it might be worth merging a few key 'issues' into this master article, and balancing them out. ItsPugle (please ping on reply) 05:38, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

@ItsPugle: I don't believe Criticism of Spotify should be merged with the Spotify page. It is a large page, and the information in it would create a bulky section that would not fit well with the rest of the Spotify page. Whilst the Criticism of Spotify page is certainly imperfect, and could use improvement, it goes into detail that would not fit on a summary page. We need more detailed pages to keep the summary pages from being too full and difficult to navigate, with information likely unnecessary for the average reader. Penumbra01 (please ping on reply) 16:11, 07 November 2020 (UTC)

@Penumbra01: Merging doesn't mean copy-pasting the entire article. For the largest part, most things in Criticism of Spotify are extraneous and not concise. Having one section with likely three or four subsections (with no more than one or two paragraphs in each) is not too long really. Also, I don't know what you mean by "summary page" - Spotify is not a "summary page", it's a article page used to convey information.

I also don't have any faith that the page will be readily improved. I don't have enough energy or time to improve it myself, and its had a point of view template on it for almost three years. ItsPugle (please ping on reply) 08:16, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

Oppose merge as it seems that a suitable WP:SUMMARY form is in place; as all commenters note, what is needed is improvement, including removal of POV and OR. Klbrain (talk) 10:38, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

The problem is that after you remove all inappropriate and irrelevant material, you're left with maybe two or three paragraphs. Most of the commentary on Criticism of Spotify is around artist pay-outs/IR which can be condensed into one paragraph, all the policy stuff can be put into another once your remove the opinions, and we can have another sentence or two about Drake's Scorpion SZN promotion. Stuff like it not having certain features is commentary/opinion/garbage and not actual sourced criticism. ItsPugle (please ping on reply) 23:40, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

Merge salvageable elements. I agree with ItsPugle's assessment that the Criticism of Spotify page is poor, and I share the pessimism about its chances of improvement. I favor a WP:TNT approach. Popcornfud (talk) 10:58, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

Merge I agree that the article is out of proportion to the substance of the criticism. There are maybe a few interesting key points that can be extracted and merged into the main article introducing some subsections there. PassioEtDesiderium (talk) 22:32, 8 June 2021 (UTC)

French Guiana

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Is there spotify in French Guiana? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eray08yigit (talk • contribs) 09:52, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

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Swedish

please change ((Swedish)) to ((Sweden|Swedish)) 2601:541:4580:8500:ED87:5257:2385:E745 (talk) 15:43, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

All set. Thanks. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 15:48, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Kakao M and Spotify Conflict and Resolution

Hey, I notice nobody has added anything about the Kakao M and Spotify conflict on this article. I'm planning on adding this to the article, especially because Spotify has come out with a statement on the matter. Here's the source Juleesquared (talk) 21:27, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

Hey Juleesquared! I don't think there is anything outstandingly important in this specific dispute - content disputes are nothing new in the music industry. Instead, I think we should be merging all the separate mentions about content disputes and resolutions into one master section (maybe under Business ,odel > Industry relations), and just mentioning them like this: Spotify has been involved in a number of disputes with record labels surrounding financial deals for access to signed artists' music. Labels such as Kakao Entertainment, ...., have previously removed content from the platform, citing failed negotiations with Spotify. etc. Thoughts? ItsPugle (please ping on reply) 12:42, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

@ItsPugle:Yes! this sounds good. How about: Spotify has been involved in a number of disputes with record labels surrounding financial deals for access to signed artists' music. Labels such as Kakao Entertainment and Tidal have previously removed content from the platform, citing failed negotiations with Spotify. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Juleesquared (talk • contribs) 00:35, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

References

Adding Artist Features in Features Section

I believe that the features more geared towards artists should be included in the short paragraphs that talk about user facing features and updates. Examples of this would be the Marquee feature (full page advertisements) that is recently being rolled out to more creators and Canvas which allows a short clip to play behind songs. These could be cited from the Spotify for Artists page or articles about the features releases.

Koalalaugher (talk) 06:54, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

@Koalalaugher: I'm thinking that it's probably best to actually create a new article, Spotify for Artists, that has all artist related stuff. Also, just a note, but it'd be good to maybe get a secondary source if possible (although SfA isn't really unreliable). ItsPugle (please ping on reply) 03:10, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

Add Industry Relations to History > other developments

Change Other Developments to include a tab called Industry Relations which contains Spotify has been involved in a number of disputes with record labels surrounding financial deals for access to signed artists' music. Labels such as Kakao Entertainment, Warner Music Group, and Tidal have previously removed content from the platform, citing failed negotiations with Spotify.

I’m afraid your proposed edit is not comprehensive enough to warrant a sub-section. Please feel free to edit your proposed text in your original request, for other editors to enrich and review. Ferkijel (talk) 12:17, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Sources

Where the hell is PlayStation music on here

Why is it not on here Yowwwk7391 (talk) 18:42, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

@Yowwwk7391: Hey! Since PlayStation Music is such a small part of the Spotify ecosystem, I don't think it has its own section etc. That being said, if we're missing a lot of notable things, feel free to create a subsection under Platforms. ItsPugle (please ping on reply) 22:53, 2 April 2021 (UTC)