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== Uruguay: 1924 and 1928 Olympics ==
== Uruguay: 1924 and 1928 Olympics ==


Uruguay displays four stars in its emblem – uniquely in world football, it includes their two gold medals in the [[Football at the 1924 Summer Olympics|1924 Olympics]] and [[1928 Summer Olympics|1928 Olympics]], which are regarded as FIFA world championships by the governing body.<ref name="Perez">{{cite web |last1=Perez |first1=Alvaro |title=No doubts exist. Uruguay are four time FIFA World Champions. |url=http://www.lacelesteblog.com/?p=6538 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20130315093948/http://www.lacelesteblog.com/?p=6538 |url-status=dead |archive-date=15 March 2013 |website=La Celeste Blog |access-date=12 June 2020}} ; citing the book ''100 Años de Gloria: La Verdadera history del Futbol Uruguayo''</ref><ref name="FIFA1924">{{cite web |title=FIFA InfoPlus: Early years 1924 - 1930 |url=https://www.fifa.com/mm/document/fifafacts/mcwc/ip-201_02e_fwc-origin_8816.pdf |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20071129182243/https://www.fifa.com/mm/document/fifafacts/mcwc/ip-201_02e_fwc-origin_8816.pdf |url-status=dead |archive-date=29 November 2007 |website=FIFA.com |publisher=FIFA |access-date=12 June 2020}}</ref>
Uruguay displays '''four stars in its emblem''' – uniquely in world football, it includes their two gold medals in the [[Football at the 1924 Summer Olympics|1924 Olympics]] and [[1928 Summer Olympics|1928 Olympics]], which are regarded as FIFA world championships by the governing body.<ref name="Perez">{{cite web |last1=Perez |first1=Alvaro |title=No doubts exist. Uruguay are four time FIFA World Champions. |url=http://www.lacelesteblog.com/?p=6538 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20130315093948/http://www.lacelesteblog.com/?p=6538 |url-status=dead |archive-date=15 March 2013 |website=La Celeste Blog |access-date=12 June 2020}} ; citing the book ''100 Años de Gloria: La Verdadera history del Futbol Uruguayo''</ref><ref name="FIFA1924">{{cite web |title=FIFA InfoPlus: Early years 1924 - 1930 |url=https://www.fifa.com/mm/document/fifafacts/mcwc/ip-201_02e_fwc-origin_8816.pdf |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20071129182243/https://www.fifa.com/mm/document/fifafacts/mcwc/ip-201_02e_fwc-origin_8816.pdf |url-status=dead |archive-date=29 November 2007 |website=FIFA.com |publisher=FIFA |access-date=12 June 2020}}</ref>


The 1924 [[FIFA Congress]] ruled, “on condition that the Olympic Football Tournament takes place in accordance with the Regulations of FIFA, the latter shall recognize this as a world football championship”,<ref name="Perez"/><ref name="FIFA1924"/> and the 1924 and 1928 championships are regarded as equivalent to World Cups in the 1984 ''Official History of FIFA''.<ref name="Perez"/><ref name="FIFA1924"/>
The 1924 [[FIFA Congress]] ruled, “on condition that the Olympic Football Tournament takes place in accordance with the Regulations of FIFA, the latter shall recognize this as a world football championship”,<ref name="Perez"/><ref name="FIFA1924"/> and the 1924 and 1928 championships are regarded as equivalent to World Cups in the 1984 ''Official History of FIFA''.<ref name="Perez"/><ref name="FIFA1924"/>

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Semi-protected edit request on 6 July 2018


Add known results for 2018 world cup to "Best performances by continental zones".

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Only on four occasions have consecutive World Cups been won by teams from the same continent, and currently it is the first time with three champions in a row from the same continental confederation. Italy and Brazil successfully defended their titles in 1938 and 1962 respectively, while Italy's triumph in 2006 has been followed by Spain's in 2010 and Germany's in 2014. Currently, it is also the first time that one of the currently winning continents (Europe) is ahead of the other (South America) by two championships.

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Only on five occasions have consecutive World Cups been won by teams from the same continent, and currently it is the first time with four champions in a row from the same continental confederation. Italy and Brazil successfully defended their titles in 1938 and 1962 respectively, while Italy's triumph in 2006 has been followed by Spain's in 2010, Germany's in 2014 and another UEFA member state is guaranteed the title in 2018. Currently, it is also the first time that one of the currently winning continents (Europe) is ahead of the other (South America) by more than one championship.

Change the table to:

Total times teams qualified by confederation
AFC CAF CONCACAF CONMEBOL OFC UEFA Total
Teams 37 44 42 85 4 245 457
Top 16 6 9 14 35 1 91 156[1]
Top 8 2 3 5 34 0 100 144[1]
Top 4 1 0 1 22 0 60 84
Top 2 0 0 0 14 0 28 42
1st 0 0 0 9 0 12 21
2nd 0 0 0 5 0 16 21
3rd 0 0 1 3 0 17 21
4th 1 0 0 5 0 15 21
  1. ^ a b The 1982 edition in Spain had a format with a second round consisting of 12 teams instead of 16, 4 of which qualified to the semi-finals.

Request to change the title to FIFA Men's World Cup

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.



As clarified by the text below the page's title, this article refers specifically to the men's tournament. The World Cup represents a dream of unity and international connection through the beautiful game that we all love. Let's try to keep sexism out of it as much as we can! I know that hearing the men's tournament referred to as "the" world cup always made me feel left out as I played (women's) youth soccer. This change would clarify the difference between the pages and would prevent othering of women's participation in the sport. Thank you very much for considering this request! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rebecca.K.Hofer (talkcontribs) 09:42, 7 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The men’s is officially called the FIFA World Cup. It has been since it was founded in 1930. The women’s is officially called the FIFA Women’s World Cup. It has been since it was founded in 1991. Also, the link at the top of the article that directs you to the FIFA Women’s World Cup provides any clarification if it were needed. Cranberry Wood (talk) 10:37, 7 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Ridiculous request, something that will never happen. The common name is FIFA World Cup and is WP:PRIMARYTOPIC - nothing to do with sexism. Also this isn’t a forum. Vaselineeeeeeee★★★ 21:59, 8 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Calling somebody's request "ridiculous" is being Uncivil. It's fine to disagree, but such a comment is not appropriate. I won't escalate (that would be uncivil of me) but think you should apologize. For the record, there are many, many pages on Wikipedia that use names that are not the "official" names of things, for various reasons, including clarity. I would suggest renaming this page to FIFA World Cup (Men's) to make it clearer. Here in the US, most people say the US Team just won the World Cup, not the "Women's World Cup." RoyLeban (talk) 05:08, 8 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
We go by sources, and the overwhelming number of sources, never, or almost never add the word "men's" when referring to the FIFA World Cup. So yes, this is a ridiculous request, once again. Using "men's" is appropriate where sourcing shows its use is substantiated as in the Canada or United States women's or men's soccer teams. Vaselineeeeeeee★★★ 05:28, 8 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Doubling down after insulting somebody makes me want to report you (I still won't). You can be civil while making your disagreement clear. On the larger issue, there is plenty of substantiation, see below. RoyLeban (talk) 05:59, 8 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
You wouldn't get very far with a report anyway, I'm not being uncivil, just calling it what it is. Vaselineeeeeeee★★★ 06:26, 8 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose - That's not what this competition is called. If FIFA ever decides to change it to "FIFA Men's World Cup", we will probably follow suit, but it's not up to us to go round righting social wrongs through the medium of wiki. – PeeJay 13:34, 9 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Rebecca.K.Hofer: If you want the page to be moved please follow the process at WP:RM. I would suggest a good read of the guidelines listed at that page before making the nomination. Woody (talk) 09:18, 22 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

What we have here is WP:Recentism and WP:NPOV, and also sources that do not represent a worldwide view. Also, these are sources for calling the FIFA Women's World Cup the World Cup, not calling the FIFA World Cup the FIFA Men's World Cup. The US men's team has never won a World Cup, nor is the FIFA World Cup being played this year, so these news articles are simply choosing not to use the qualifier because there is no real ambiguity at this moment. Stop using the sexism card, this is how the competition has been, and is called, nothing to do with sexism; it does not need any identifier whatsoever, and likely never will. Vaselineeeeeeee★★★ 06:26, 8 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Semi-protected edit request on 14 Jul 2019

"Platini said that he would allocate an additional berth to UEFA, two to the Asian Football Confederation and the Confederation of African Football, two shared between CONCACAF and CONMEBOL, and a guaranteed place for the Oceania Football Confederation." The numbers given only add up to six, not eight. Presumably what is meant is that the Asian and African confederations each get two. If that is correct, recommend changing the text to "two each to the Asian". 71.235.184.247 (talk) 12:54, 14 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Unclear what you want changed. FluffSquad (talk) 01:48, 22 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Events cancelled due to Pandemic

https://www.cbc.ca/sports/soccer/fifa-international-games-could-be-off-2021-1.5531173 FIFA vice president says international games could be off until 2021

Resumption in 2020 might not be possible in parts of world hit hardest by pandemic Rob Harris · The Associated Press · Apr 13, 2020 Peter K Burian (talk) 13:54, 16 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"2038 FIFA World Cup" listed at Redirects for discussion

A discussion is taking place to address the redirect 2038 FIFA World Cup. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 October 28#2038 FIFA World Cup until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. -- Tavix (talk) 15:51, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 26 March 2021

77.107.120.220 (talk) 10:33, 26 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

boris johnson was paqrt of 1966 world cup winning squad

Please provide the exact text you would like to add, remove or change as well as sourcing for it. Thanks. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:22, 26 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Semi-protected edit request on 28 June 2021

Change

includes results representing West Germany and Oriental Germany

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includes results representing West Germany and East Germany 2A02:908:1012:F640:30E4:6084:7247:EA92 (talk) 06:41, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This has been fixed by another editor [1] RudolfRed (talk) 01:36, 1 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Uruguay: 1924 and 1928 Olympics

Uruguay displays four stars in its emblem – uniquely in world football, it includes their two gold medals in the 1924 Olympics and 1928 Olympics, which are regarded as FIFA world championships by the governing body.[1][2]

The 1924 FIFA Congress ruled, “on condition that the Olympic Football Tournament takes place in accordance with the Regulations of FIFA, the latter shall recognize this as a world football championship”,[1][2] and the 1924 and 1928 championships are regarded as equivalent to World Cups in the 1984 Official History of FIFA.[1][2]

Hence Uruguay has two stars for 1924 and 1928 (recognized by FIFA as World Championships in accordance with the IOC) and 2 stars from the two World Cups from 1930 and 1950.[3]

Should these Olympic results be included in the Results section, but separated from the World Cup table already present? 2601:5C4:4301:5420:C11:E3AE:E71B:C6CA (talk) 21:59, 4 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Summer Olympics

Year Hosts Gold medal match Bronze medal match
Gold medalists Score Silver medalists Bronze medalists Score Fourth place
1924
Details
France
Paris

Uruguay
3–0
Switzerland

Sweden
1–1
aet

Netherlands
Match replay: 3–1
1928
Details
Netherlands
Amsterdam

Uruguay
1–1
aet

Argentina

Italy
11–3
Egypt
Match replay: 2–1
  1. ^ a b c Perez, Alvaro. "No doubts exist. Uruguay are four time FIFA World Champions". La Celeste Blog. Archived from the original on 15 March 2013. Retrieved 12 June 2020. ; citing the book 100 Años de Gloria: La Verdadera history del Futbol Uruguayo
  2. ^ a b c "FIFA InfoPlus: Early years 1924 - 1930" (PDF). FIFA.com. FIFA. Archived from the original (PDF) on 29 November 2007. Retrieved 12 June 2020.
  3. ^ Orígenes de la Copa Mundial de la FIFA (PDF). Archived from the original (PDF) on 11 November 2012.