Talk:Turkey

Official Change of Country Name not reflected in the article

The Republic of Turkey officially changed its name by Presidential Comminique on the 4th of December. The country is now known as the "Republic of Turkiye". All international organizations were informed of the change including the United Nations. See https://www.trtworld.com/magazine/why-turkey-is-now-turkiye-and-why-that-matters-52602

Not true, it only says Turkey made products will use "Made in Türkiye". Beshogur (talk) 11:58, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

The article says this: In a nod to that, the recently published communique was clear that "within the scope of strengthening the 'Turkiye' brand, in all kinds of activities and correspondence, especially in official relations with other states and international institutions and organisations, necessary sensitivity will be shown on the use of the phrase 'Türkiye' instead of phrases such as 'Turkey,' 'Turkei,' 'Turquie' etc." So they’re changing the name on official documents and all that. Xaea12lol (talk) 22:59, 26 December 2021 (UTC) Hmm, I see that's correct. Beshogur (talk) 23:14, 26 December 2021 (UTC)

TRTWorld (which is an official government broadcaster) is basically the only source reporting this. If the United Nations, the Associated Press, etc. start using this spelling, the article will adjust. As it is, I don't think this needs to be mentioned at all. (and would it be Turkiye or Türkiye?) User:力 (powera, π, ν) 23:18, 26 December 2021 (UTC)

"Turkiye" is the Turkish name as already stated in the article, and does not belong bolded in the lead. Literally only one source covers this, as stated above. Bill Williams 01:28, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

Turkiye is an endonym for the country. So, per WP:USEENGLISH, we should using a common, not official English name. 36.77.102.62 (talk) 04:10, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

The OP did not wanted to change the article's name - which should be based on the common English name - but the official name. Turkish government is trying to to pull a "Cote D'Ivore", where they try to name the country officially by it's native name. Official names are determined by a country's government and not the common use. I was also skeptical of the name change, but a minority of governmental institutions and ministries changed their official names on their websites (1, 2, 3; check the logos). This had been attempted by the previous governments and most likely fail, but nevertheless it is used by some official organizations. I personally think that it should not replace the "Republic of Turkey" in the article since it has such a limited use, but might be mentioned in a footnote. --Gogolplex (talk) 10:27, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

There is only one official name, Türkiye Cumhuriyeti, since Turkey only has one official language which is Turkish. Everything else are just government-endorsed translations, but these have little weight against the common name that is used by international organizations and of course by the global English-speaking public. If Turkey had English as second official language with a constitution officially written in English, things would be different (cf. Eswatini). And the edit warring should stop as long as this is discussed here. –Austronesier (talk) 11:25, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

"There is only one official name, Türkiye Cumhuriyeti," then can you explain me why the lede says "officially Republic of Turkey" and not "officially, Türkiye Cumhuriyeti" or "also known as Republic of Turkey", since it's not an official name according to your argument? Countries having official non-native names is ordinary. Just look at Ivory Coast, a completely non-English speaking country with their own unpopular, government sponsored official name. There is absolutely no policy on Wikipedia that official name should be the common English name, nor the "English-privilege", which only officially English speaking countries can choose theirs. I'm also not the one that is edit warring. I'm behind my argument, it should not be added directly until UN or other big organizations embrace it, but it still have to be mentioned since it is used by ministries. --Gogolplex (talk) 13:18, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

@Gogolplex: They seem to use the name, but I would wait for official submission to the UN. Beshogur (talk) 13:21, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

I would say let's mention Republic of Türkiye in the body, not lead, and later, if they decide to change it in the UN completely. Beshogur (talk) 12:39, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

I support Beshogur's approach. –Austronesier (talk) 13:43, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 December 2021

154.127.6.93 (talk) 06:57, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

Sake Haas

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate.  melecie  t - 09:39, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 27 December 2021

Change "Turkey" to "Türkiye" Source: https://www.trtworld.com/turkey/turkey-to-use-t%C3%BCrkiye-in-all-activities-to-strengthen-its-brand-52307 DrJuiceBoy (talk) 18:46, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: en.wiki generally uses the WP:Common name for its articles. CMD (talk) 18:53, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 27 December 2021 (2)

Change "officially the Republic of Turkey" to "officially the Republic of Türkiye" in accordance with the recent name change: https://www.trtworld.com/magazine/why-turkey-is-now-turkiye-and-why-that-matters-52602 184.147.109.215 (talk) 23:55, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

See talk page above. Shadow4dark (talk) 02:25, 29 December 2021 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 29 December 2021

Turkey has formally changed its English name to Turkiye 109.152.227.247 (talk) 02:02, 29 December 2021 (UTC)

See talk page above. Shadow4dark (talk) 02:24, 29 December 2021 (UTC)

Name Change

Turkey has now changed its international name to Turkiye. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.168.118.111 (talk) 23:34, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

No, they didn't. See above. (CC) Tbhotch^™ 23:37, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

The name "Turkey" was used in many treaties during the Ottoman period

The definition in the Etymology section: "With the Treaty of Alexandropol signed by the Government of the Grand National Assembly with Armenia, the name of Turkey entered international documents for the first time" is entirely wrong. The Ottoman Empire was mentioned with the name Turkey in many international treaties during the Ottoman period. For example, see the full text of the Treaty of Berlin (1878). Similarly, Article XVI of the Treaty of Paris (1856), for example, also uses the name "Turkey" for defining the Ottoman Empire. Mercresis (talk) 09:53, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

Treaty of Paris (page 348) in Ottoman Turkish makes no mention of "Turkey", calling the "Saltanat-i Seniye" (exalted sultanate). Not sure where the English translation came from, or the original document making such mention. Beshogur (talk) 12:52, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

Türkiye

Türkiye — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.201.57.34 (talk) 23:46, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

Wrong date

In this article you have the following sentence:

In January 2022, the country officially changed its English name to its Turkish name, Türkiye, to better reflect its heritage and avoid confusion with the turkey bird.[40]

The name change happened in December 2021 and TRT World posted two articles about this topic. First using "Türkiye", but later changing it to "Turkiye" without a diaeresis on the letter u. Not sure why they stopped using the ü. But since the second article, they have been consistently using "Turkiye" on their website and social media. So, they have been using this word in all of their articles since December 2021 and still continue to use it.

So, I'm not sure if Türkiye should be Turkiye in this sentence, but the source should be changed from MSN to TRT World. And the date also needs to be fixed from January 2022 to December 2021.