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DYK REI worker organization issue

Hello! Your submission of REI worker organization at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) at your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know!

As a side note, I see Liz Fong-Jones is in mainspace - hurrah! Did you and User:Stuartyeates come to some compromise, or did you just decide it's good enough as is? --GRuban (talk) 18:24, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

I pushed it through, and @Stuartyeates did not nominate it for deletion, and some others took some care to improve it instead. SquareInARoundHole (talk) 18:27, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

I still think it's pretty marginal, but did some tidying up of the article myself once it was clear it was getting the consensus. Stuartyeates (talk) 01:37, 23 March 2022 (UTC)

Images for labor activists!

Hi, Square. I hope you don't think I'm being hard on you in the above review. I do appreciate your goals, it's just that if a reader reading one of our articles can tell the author's politics from the way the author wrote it then we're doing it wrong. Anyway, to put my work where my words are, and show a small sign of my appreciation, besides the one for Liz Fong-Jones, here are a couple of free-as-in-speech images that I found and added to your articles. Hope you like!

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  Chris Smalls
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  Mily Treviño-Sauceda
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  Jennifer Bates (labor organizer)

I also noticed you added a beautiful image to Alicia Nicki Washington, File:Alicia Nicki Washington (Profile).jpg. You marked it Creative Commons CC0 1.0 Universal Public Domain Dedication. Why do you think it is public domain? I looked at https://nickiwashington.com/press/bio-and-images/ and can't see that there, I just see a copyright (c) at the bottom of the page... ? --GRuban (talk) 15:38, 23 March 2022 (UTC)

That page is what she sends for free use (including the text), but now that I'm looking at it, there doesn't seem to be a release accompanied with them, despite of the page's purpose. SquareInARoundHole (talk) 18:06, 23 March 2022 (UTC)

Ew. That could be a problem. You emailed her to get this? Can you ask her to put a notice on the page that says something like "These images released into the public domain" or "These images released under https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/" (that's basically the most restrictive license we can use, it's very close to the one the Wikipedia itself is under)? Or can you ask her to email permissions-commons@wikimedia.org with a release statement that says the same thing? The web page statement would be simpler, the email might take a few go-arounds back and forth. (Believe me, I know!)

Meanwhile, looking at your other article images, I see the one on Jennifer Bates is up for deletion, as it's status as a C-Span image is debatable. (Because it may not be an image from a Senate debate! See, if it were an image from a debate, then its status would not be debatable. Makes perfect sense, right? ) I'll see what I can do.--GRuban (talk) 18:28, 23 March 2022 (UTC)

I'll see what we can do, it might be better to have her or her press people upload the images up to commons themselves. Yep, I get the argument for deletion of Bates' photo. Photos seem to the be the hardest part of Wikipedia so far! SquareInARoundHole (talk) 18:36, 23 March 2022 (UTC)

No, I mean it, the easiest way, for us at least, is if she publicly puts a release on her website, where everyone can see it, and then one of us editors downloads it from there and uploads it to Commons. Trust me, I've done this before, just a few times. If she does it herself, then she may need to prove she is she, or her agent is her agent, and who the photographer is, and was it a Wednesday that came in the middle of the week, and does she have a shrubbery... See the volunteers on our projects, including the ones who answer email, are mostly well meaning, but some of them don't really like the people we write articles about, and others think their mission isn't to improve the encyclopedia but to act as gatekeepers to make sure no one is getting any free publicity, and yet others get drunk with power and make ridiculous demands because that way they can get Wikipedia:notable people to dance to their whims, and ... yeah. I've done this before.

The Jennifer Bates image is sorted, I hope. I uploaded a very similar but better and, more importantly, more clearly public domain, image. See the deletion debate. By the way, Jennifer Bates doesn't actually go to Jennifer Bates (labor organizer) but is actually a redirect to someone named Jennifer Bate? What's that all about? Let's see if we can fix that as well. --GRuban (talk) 18:53, 23 March 2022 (UTC)

It's a pretty old redirect iirc, but would love to hijack it if it make sense and move Jennifer Bates (labor organizer) to Jennifer Bates. SquareInARoundHole (talk) 19:04, 23 March 2022 (UTC)

User_talk:Bagumba#Any_chance_we_could_get_Jennifer_Bates_(labor_organizer)_moved_to_Jennifer_Bates? --GRuban (talk) 19:11, 23 March 2022 (UTC)

[1] You didn't like the image of Mily Treviño-Sauceda? --GRuban (talk)

@GRuban: I totally do! Been scattered trying to keep up with all the things going on in labor and going to school and working. I'll get it added now! SquareInARoundHole (talk) 18:38, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

 Done SquareInARoundHole (talk) 18:40, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

I see the confusion now! I did not intend to remove the image or its captions. We must have crossed wires somehow without a conflict warning. Oops! SquareInARoundHole (talk) 21:57, 1 April 2022 (UTC)

DYK for REI worker organization

On 3 April 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article REI worker organization, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that on March 2, 2022, 86 percent of workers in New York City's REI store voted in favor of the outdoor recreation retailer's first ever trade union, REI union SoHo? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/REI worker organization. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, REI worker organization), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 3 April 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Mily Treviño-Sauceda

On 8 April 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Mily Treviño-Sauceda, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Mily Treviño-Sauceda, the co-founder of the first national grassroots women's farmworker organization in the United States, the National Alliance of Farmworker Women, was a child farmworker in the 1960s? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Mily Treviño-Sauceda. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Mily Treviño-Sauceda), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

Derrick Palmer

Hi! Excited to see Chris Smalls on the front page tomorrow. Do you think his fellow union leader Derrick Palmer is notable enough for a page? Looks like there’s a decent amount out there. Best, Thriley (talk) 01:39, 11 April 2022 (UTC)

Yes. I've been extremely ill, but will contribute when I feel better. SquareInARoundHole (talk) 06:24, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Chris Smalls

On 11 April 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Chris Smalls, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Amazon Labor Union founder Chris Smalls (pictured) was one of the leaders in the first successful effort to unionize Amazon warehouse workers in the United States? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Chris Smalls. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Chris Smalls), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:02, 11 April 2022 (UTC)

Like. El_C 14:07, 11 April 2022 (UTC)

		Hook update
		Your hook reached 13,871.5 views (1,156.0 per hour), making it one of the most viewed hooks of April 2022 – nice work!

theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 05:56, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

Danes

Hi SquareInARoundHole. I have some unasked-for advice, so feel free to ignore or delete with no hard feelings. I agree with you about Danes, and would prefer if the debate didn't lead to any sanctions against you. I worry that your continuous responses at the RfC will be seen as bludgeoning the process. The RfC will be open for weeks yet, and hopefully more people will contribute their views. I hope you'll consider waiting a while before posting a comment that could include many responses bundled together, since it's likely that support for the status quo version will continue spring from the same small set of rationales. Thanks for bringing this to the wider community's attention; let's hope it goes well. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 16:09, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for the advice, I've not seen this essay before. Certainly not intending to force my own POV. I'll take a break from responding. SquareInARoundHole (talk) 16:55, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Cher Scarlett

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Cher Scarlett you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Hawkeye7 -- Hawkeye7 (talk) 00:01, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Cher Scarlett

The article Cher Scarlett you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Cher Scarlett for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already appeared on the main page as a "Did you know" item, or as a bold link under "In the News" or in the "On This Day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear in DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On This Day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Hawkeye7 -- Hawkeye7 (talk) 00:42, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Timnit Gebru

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Timnit Gebru you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Firefangledfeathers -- Firefangledfeathers (talk) 15:01, 12 June 2022 (UTC)