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Headquarters

I am seeing from reliable sources that MindGeek is in fact based in Montreal, Canada rather than Luxembourg as it claims. This 2016 article from La Presse mentions this (Google translated):

On the intercom, a receptionist tells us that no leader of MindGeek is on site. Not today nor tomorrow. "Nobody works here, nobody works from here," she says. 5700 km away, along the Décarie Expressway in Montreal, the atmosphere is much more lively. Employees come in and out of the MindGeek offices on a friday morning in September, a few weeks after our visit to Luxembourg. This is where the majority of MindGeek employees, a Montreal-based conglomerate with many of the best-known porn sites on the web [...] MindGeek SARL [...] was officially registered in October 2013. At that time, MindGeek Holding Inc., located on Décarie Boulevard in Montreal, was "the 'sole shareholder' of this Luxembourg holding, confirm the documents obtained by La Presse.

So the company is based in Montreal. And even if we want to say Luxembourg due to legal registration that won't be true either, as quoted above all shares of the Luxembourg company are owned by another company of theirs in Canada (tax avoidance, low taxes in Luxembourg). More on that here:

MINDGEEK S.A R.L. ( B181337), registered in Luxembourg by MindGeek Holding Inc., a company under the laws of Canada, registered with the Registraire des Entreprises du Québec under the number 1169455970 and having its registered office at 600-7777 boulevard Décarie, Montréal (Québec) H4P2H2 Canada. MindGeek Holding inc. in Canada is owned by "9288-1259 Québec inc." which is owned by businessmen Antoon Feras and David Tassillo.

Seeing that the company is ultimately incorporated in Canada and even operates from there, I propose the company headquarters be changed to Montreal, Canada.

PS: Something similar happened in the Cambridge Analytica article [1], where though the legal documents mentioned New York as its HQ it operated out of London as mentioned in news reports. The HQ was changed to London. (Not the case here, even legal documents support the change)

• I have updated the article to reflect its a Canadian company as it seems to be the standard on Wikipedia. Such as with Spotify which is also headquartered in Luxembourg but is mentioned as a Swedish company. Gotitbro (talk) 04:44, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

• • This location of HQ quirk for MindGeek seems to be well enough handled for the article ... though should a disclaimer be added to the HQ entry? Text mdnp (talk) 19:59, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

Pornhub controversy and the collateral damage

It would be interesting to list what is happening to various company sites after The New York Times published that explosive article about Pornhub. So far I have noticed the following:

• Pornhub blocked/deleted like 10 million videos.
• Redtube also blocked/deleted around 2 million videos.
• Many scenes from Brazzers disappeared from its homepage.
• In XVideos words like forced, daugther, rape and others were censored. Although it is not owned by MindGeek, it is possible that it is a consequence of everything that is happening.
• xHamster seems to have been removing content as well (It also doesn't seem to belong to Mindgeek).

Possibly this is also affecting more sites but it is what I have seen so far. There I leave the idea for those who want to add more data, better references and improve the writing.

I imagine that this could be placed in the Pornhub article but I think it looks better here since the scandal splashes both MindGeek and Pornhub.--190.226.79.136 (talk) 01:04, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

References

• Reddit, internet fora and other user-generated content are not acceptable as references. The Verge is a good source and reliably sourced content on this topic belongs both at here and at Pornhub or other involved sites' articles. — Bilorv (talk) 01:21, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

Primary Sources

If we are discussing a lawsuit, what is the best source of information about the lawsuit. How about providing a pointer to the actual lawsuit at the court? This would be better than pointing to an media article behind a paywall.

RayKiddy (talk) 18:46, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

On Wikipedia, secondary sources are preferred to primary sources and whether a source is paywalled is not a relevant factor (except possibly being a reason against if all other factors are equal and there's a reason not to give multiple sources). — Bilorv (talk) 19:53, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

Merger proposal of PornMD

I propose the article PornMD should be merged into MindGeek. PornMD is not considered notable outside of the context of MindGeek. The article is currently a very short stub, and most of its references do not seem credible at all. It would be much better suited for this page. AlmTec (talk) 17:00, 13 January 2022 (UTC)

Agreed 72.106.63.105 (talk) 14:34, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

  Y Merger complete. Klbrain (talk) 16:37, 15 August 2022 (UTC)

Advertising

The current Advertising section is overwhelmingly focussed on PornHub, so maybe should be moved to that article? Also, perhaps the song performed by Coolio to advertise PornHub (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I65f-B5-ePw) is sufficiently notable to be mentioned in the same paragraph? 49.186.97.168 (talk) 07:11, 15 October 2022 (UTC)