User talk:EchidnaLives

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Welcome to my talk page. If you have any questions for me, or have something you need to tell me, leave it here! I may make some mistakes when reverting edits in recent changes, so please let me know if I do. I don't mind criticism, and would appreciate constructive feedback. Thanks!

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Dealing with vandalism

Hello, thanks for your efforts to remove vandalism. However, at please make sure you undo all the bad edits made to an article. At the Structure article, you only undid one edit but the vandal made two of them. Please use a tool like Twinkle or RevWarn to warn vandals; also see the page about Recent Changes patrol. Graham87 06:55, 12 May 2022 (UTC)

Hey!

Thanks for telling me, I’ll make sure to check for multiple edits when I next do this. And thanks for referring me to those tools, I’ll check them out!

Have a good day. EchidnaLives (talk) 07:43, 12 May 2022 (UTC)

ITN recognition for 2022 AFL Grand Final

On 26 September 2022, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article 2022 AFL Grand Final, which you nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Stephen 03:45, 26 September 2022 (UTC)

Rollback granted

Hi EchidnaLives. After reviewing your request, I have enabled rollback on your account. Please keep the following things in mind while using rollback:

• Getting rollback is no more momentous than installing Twinkle or RedWarn.
• Rollback should be used to revert clear cases of vandalism only, and not good faith edits.
• Rollback should never be used to edit war.
• If abused, rollback rights can be revoked.
• Use common sense.

If you no longer want rollback, contact me and I'll remove it. Also, for some more information on how to use rollback, see Wikipedia:Administrators' guide/Rollback (even though you're not an admin). I'm sure you'll do great with rollback, but feel free to leave me a message on my talk page if you run into trouble or have any questions about appropriate/inappropriate use of rollback. Thank you for helping to reduce vandalism. Happy editing! ~Swarm~ ^{sting} 16:59, 13 October 2022 (UTC)

DadFeels webseries on ARG list page

Honestly I'm new to editing wiki, but DadFeels is an active webseries with multiple puzzles, ciphers, spectro's etc. There's currently an active discord server that also contains links to different fan constructed documents, and the fandom page as well. It's super well produced. The creator of the series himself defines it as a webseries. It's definitely a lot of fun and a great watch if you play along. I was looking for something to delve into for a while and didn't see it there. I'm sorry if my addition was inappropriate, I usually use wiki, not edit 😅. It's super interesting, insanely well produced, and full of arg elements, it's just defined by it's creator as a webseries, which is why I was putting it under that section. Gotta share the goodness! Also it appears that both EveryManHybrid and Tribe Twelve are missing from the list as well. ~~~~Iezbefrenz~~~~ Iezbefrenz (talk) 01:54, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

Hello @Iezbefrenz,

Welcome to Wikipedia! Unfortunately the link did not follow the external link guidelines at Wikipedia:External links.

You may wish to instead replace it with a Wikilink, if the article exists.

If you have any questions, just reply below. Thanks. echidnaLives (talk) 02:01, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

Thank you! I tried pulling up the wiki for it, but it's just redirecting to the creator's wiki (Nathan Barnatt). The fandom page is probably the best website page for it. I see that posting links to the youtube page itself was outside of the guidelines, again I'm sorry. I'm not quite sure how to add it then unless I use the fandom page link. The discord has much more comprehensive info, but obviously not going to link that. As the search for DadFeels comes up as a redirect to Nathan Barnatt's wiki, is that appropriate? A lot of the page is focused on his other work. "In 2019, Barnatt created a YouTube channel called Dad, featuring the web series Dad Feels following a character named Dad. Though it is often called an alternate reality game (ARG), Barnatt disowns the term. The series has concluded its first season consisting three acts in December 2020. The series was a surprising success for Barnatt, who was experiencing financial struggles severe enough that he prepared to live in his van". This being the most pertinent part of the wiki as far as the series goes. The reference link there just brings you to the youtube channel. (which looking at this the info is actually a bit wrong and outdated, it actually started in 2018, and it's still going, and the creator has said he intends to keep the series going after the upcoming Act IIII finale, actually.) If there's no way to do this that's okay, it's just so good I want others to experience it as well =] Iezbefrenz (talk) 02:29, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

Hello again @Iezbefrenz,

If the Wikipedia article doesn't exist (which it doesn't), it probably shouldn't be included in a list article.

Lists are collections of articles that already exist, and usually don't include external links. If you believe DadFeels is notable enough to have an article, you might want to look into creating it.

For more information, please see Wikipedia:Stand-alone lists, and if you are interested in creating it, check out Wikipedia:Notability, Wikipedia:Notability (web) and Help:Your First Article.

Again, if you have any further questions, just reply below! Have a good day. echidnaLives (talk) 03:39, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for the advice and direction! I'll definitely look into it and ask around in the community and see what they think/if they want to help. I appreciate your direction and support a lot! I'm gonna ss the convo so I have it for later use.

Have a wonderful day/night =] Iezbefrenz (talk) 03:47, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

@Iezbefrenz

Happy to help! I would recommend asking someone at Wikipedia:Teahouse or Wikipedia:Help desk for advice. I would help more, but this isn't really my area of expertise.

Good luck! echidnaLives (talk) 04:09, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

All good! You've been incredibly helpful and I really appreciate it. Thank you again!! 🙏

Thank you =] and have a great one! Iezbefrenz (talk) 04:11, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

Spanish conquest of the Aztec Empire page

Hi, EchidnaLives. The quote from Bernal Díaz del Castillo is as cited in Joy Hakim's 2005 book The First Americans: Prehistory - 1600 Chapter 22, Page 110. I was actually in the midst of writing a citation when my edits were suddenly reverted before I had a chance to add the citation. Professor Penguino (talk) 01:55, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

Hello @Professor Penguino,

Sorry about this. In the future, you may want to add the citation at the same time as the edit, so people like me who monitor recent changes don't revert it.

Thanks for your contribuitons. If you have any further questions, just reply below. echidnaLives (talk) 02:05, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

Oh! Wow! Thank you for your prompt response and your great suggestion. From now on, I'll make sure to insert the citation at the same time as the text. Sincerely, Fellow Wikipedian, Professor Penguino (talk) 02:09, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

@Professor Penguino

Happy I could help. Happy editing! echidnaLives (talk) 03:42, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

Potential Trigger Warnings in Alice

Hello EchidnaLives, You wrote that the edit(s) you made to Alice (South Korean TV series), did not appear to be constructive and have been reverted. I do not know your background so I cannot judge why you believe the addition of trigger warnings are not constructive. Trigger warnings are absolutely essential to people suffering from PTSD and they are not provided anywhere that I could find. And I am saying that as someone who suffers from PTSD. So I would really like to know why you think so. Estelle4565 (talk) 10:22, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

Hello @Estelle4565,

Please read Wikipedia:Trigger warnings and Wikipedia:No disclaimers. If you are trying to say that I do not care about this, please leave my talk page, as I do care. This is the policy of Wikipedia.

Thanks, echidnaLives (talk) 10:30, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

Hello @EchidnaLives

Thank you for directing me to the page. I made no personal accusations towards you. I simply responded to your "did not appear to be constructive and have been reverted". Your response sounded like a personal opinion rather than a Wikipedia policy. If you had from the start pointed me towards the Wikipedia:Trigger warnings page it would have been more contructive for everyone involved and you would not have felt personally attacked. It was defininately not my intention to imply that you do not care. That is why I asked for a clarification.

I read the "Wikipedia:Trigger" page you directed me to. According to the page itself:

"This is an essay. It contains the advice or opinions of one or more Wikipedia contributors. This page is not an encyclopedia article, nor is it one of Wikipedia's policies or guidelines, as it has not been thoroughly vetted by the community. Some essays represent widespread norms; others only represent minority viewpoints."

In the above sentense it clearly states that "nor is it one of Wikipedia's policies or guidelines, as it has not been thoroughly vetted by the community". So it is not a Wikipedia policy. It is the opinion of 4 Wikipedia users.

If you have a different opinion I would welcome a clarification.

Regarding the "Wikipedia:No disclaimers" page.

"A disclaimer in a Wikipedia article is a statement or warning that the article is not appropriate, suitable, or guaranteed for some specified purpose."

Trigger warnings are not statements or warnings that the article is not appropriate, suitable, or guaranteed for some specified purpose. It simply warns the user of the presence of certain themes in the tv-series. Whether the viewer wants to watch the tv-series or movie or read the book is up to them.

If you have a different opinion I would welcome a clarification. Estelle4565 (talk) 11:06, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

Hello @Estelle4565

I use the Recent Changes Patrol tool Huggle, which has preset messages. The edit clearly wasn't vandalism, so the message I chose felt like the most appropriate for the situation. This is why it wasn't initially linked.

I linked the essay as, although it isn't a guideline, it explains one more than the Wikipedia:No disclaimers. However, if you look at the No disclaimers page, you will notice that this type of disclaimer is not mentioned in Acceptable disclaimers.

I know you have good intentions, but the guidelines are against this. This isn't my area of expertise, so I would recommend asking the Volunteer Response Team at Wikipedia:Contact us/Readers for more info.

Thanks, echidnaLives (talk) 11:18, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

Hello @EchidnaLives,

> I use the Recent Changes Patrol tool Huggle, which has preset messages. The edit clearly wasn't vandalism, so the message I chose felt like the most appropriate for the situation. This is why it wasn't initially linked.

I understand. Thank you for the clarification. For future reference you might want to edit the preset messages to fit the situation and also to include an explanation in your reply so there are no misunderstandings and the person whose edit was reverted will have a clear understanding of the situation. :)

> I linked the essay as, although it isn't a guideline, it explains one more than the Wikipedia:No disclaimers. However, if you look at the No disclaimers page, you will notice that this type of disclaimer is not mentioned in Acceptable disclaimers.

Thank you for the clarification. I still disagree with your interpretation as a "Possible Trigger Warning" section at the bottom of the page would not function a disclaimer to the page in my opinion, as it is not about the wiki page itself but the tv-series as a whole. You are right that talking to the experts would indeed be the ideal solution in this case. Thank you for pointing me to the relevant wiki page. :) Estelle4565 (talk) 13:30, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

Dear @EchidnaLives,

I thought you might want to know this for the future. I received a reply from the Volunteer Response Team regarding the Wikipedia:Trigger warnings page. They said that the contents within indeed do not reflect Wikipedia policy and should not be cited as such. Please read their answer below.

Quote:

Note the disclaimer at the very top: "This is an essay. It contains the advice or opinions of one or more Wikipedia contributors. This page is not an encyclopedia article, nor is it one of Wikipedia's policies or guidelines, as it has not been thoroughly vetted by the community. Some essays represent widespread norms; others only represent minority viewpoints." If you wish, you could communicate with the author of the essay, as it is that author's personal opinion, and not a Wikipedia community policy. Estelle4565 (talk) 15:04, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

List of Text Mining Software

Hey there EchidnaLives, I hope you are keeping well and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia. I am just unsure as to why you removed Caplena from the commercial section of List of Text Mining Software? Text mining, otherwise known as text analysis or opinion mining, are interrelated concepts and according to Wikipedia, Caplena fits the definition of text mining and software. If there is a mistake on my behalf, could you please let me know? :) SavageSeaview2 (talk) 11:15, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

Hello @SavageSeaview2,

Thanks for following up. I answered a similar question earlier today, so I'm going to copy/paste the same message as I believe it would be helpful.

If the Wikipedia article doesn't exist (which it doesn't), it probably shouldn't be included in a list article.

Lists are collections of articles that already exist, and usually don't include external links. If you believe Caplena is notable enough to have an article, you might want to look into creating it.

For more information, please see Wikipedia:Stand-alone lists, and if you are interested in creating it, check out Wikipedia:Notability, Wikipedia:Notability (web) and Help:Your First Article.

I hope this helps. If you have any other questions, feel free to reply below and I'll try my best to help. Thanks echidnaLives (talk) 11:27, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

You said I made a change with no citation. What change are you referring to?

You said I made a change to the J6 Committe article with no citation. What change are you referring to? WordwizardW (talk) 00:19, 16 October 2022 (UTC) misspelled "J6 Committee" WordwizardW (talk) 00:20, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

Hello, @WordwizardW,

Apologies, I seemed to of made a mistake.

Feel free to add it back.

Sorry for the inconvenience. echidnaLives (talk) 01:14, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

Recent edit

You recently reverted an edit I made on The Superjesus page as there was no reference. How do I site a reference if there is nothing in the net about this yet but it is true? 203.217.82.86 (talk) 13:49, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

Hello 203.217.82.86,

Welcome to Wikipedia! Please read Wikipedia:Citing sources to learn more.

Thanks, echidnaLives - talk - edits 23:12, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

Pending changes reviewer granted

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Being granted reviewer rights neither grants you status nor changes how you can edit articles. If you do not want this user right, you may ask any administrator to remove it for you at any time.

See also:

• Wikipedia:Reviewing pending changes, the guideline on reviewing
• Wikipedia:Pending changes, the summary of the use of pending changes
• Wikipedia:Protection policy#Pending changes protection, the policy determining which pages can be given pending changes protection by administrators.
  

Femke (talk) 16:02, 17 October 2022 (UTC)

Thanks! echidnaLives - talk - edits 23:44, 17 October 2022 (UTC)

DYK nomination of G-Class Melbourne tram

Hello! Your submission of G-Class Melbourne tram at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) at your nomination's entry and respond there at your earliest convenience. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:09, 22 October 2022 (UTC)

Your signature

Your signature is adding more than 1000 characters each time you post, across 6 or 7 lines. Please reduce it. Stephen 05:03, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

@Stephen oh damn I'm so sorry. I'll do that now. Thanks for telling me. echidnaLives 05:13, 24 October 2022 (UTC). (I've manually typed it)

Would this be better? echidnaLives - talk - edits. 05:24, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

That’s much more reasonable, thanks. Stephen 06:45, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

Gday mate

Let's put another shrimp on the barbie! 64.231.216.156 (talk) 22:49, 27 October 2022 (UTC)