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Revision as of 10:54, 12 January 2023
Welcome to the Film finance task force! This is a task force run by WikiProject Films
Scope
Articles that predominantly focus on box-office grosses and admissions, sales, budgets and the general business side of the film industry will come within the scope of this task force. The task force will also endeavor to ensure that the financial information present in general film articles is correct and sourced.
Guidelines
Existing guidelines relating to film finances are noted here.
Box-office
Provide a summary of the film's commercial performance (box office grosses), denominated in the film's national currency, if possible. Avoid terminology such as "domestic" and "international", which is used by sites such as Box Office Mojo for box office figures from the United States and Canada, and elsewhere. Also avoid terms such as "North America" which will vary in meaning among Wikipedia readers, and instead specify the countries (for example, use "United States and Canada") or indicate additional figures as outside the primary country or territory. Since countries and territories may not precisely match in count, copy the term used by the source(s) being referenced for box office coverage.
This information can be included under the release section (see above), the reception section, or if sufficient coverage exists, it is recommended that this information is placed in a "Box office" or "Theatrical run" section. In addition to worldwide box office statistics, this section may detail specific results of opening weekends, results from different English-speaking territories, the number of theaters the film was released into, and audience demographics. Coverage of a notable opening in a country not of the film's origin may be included (e.g., an article on an American film set in China may include discussion of the film's performance in that country). Box office statistics can be sourced from dedicated tracking websites such as Box Office Mojo or Deadline Hollywood, and print publications such as Variety or The Hollywood Reporter. Determine a consensus from objective (retrospective if possible) sources about how a film performed and why, but editors should not draw their own conclusions about the success or failure of the film.
Infobox
Participants
- Betty Logan (talk) 19:44, 1 August 2020 (UTC)
- El Millo (talk) 20:26, 1 August 2020 (UTC)
- Sock (
tocktalk) 21:28, 1 August 2020 (UTC) - BOVINEBOY2008 00:52, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
Resources
Name | Online access | Type | Notes and limitations | Owner |
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Boxoffice Pro | link | Box office performance, home video sales, news, budget figures | Boxoffice.com is the official web presence of Boxoffice Pro magazine, a journal serving the exhibition industry since the silent era. Care should be exercised in regards to their budget figures, since it is not clear what they cover, and are usually inconsistent with other published budget figures; if you decide to use them in this capacity, it would be prudent to corroborate the data with another reliable source. | National Association of Theatre Owners |
Box Office Mojo | link | Box office performance, home video sales, news, budget figures | IMDb, a subsidiary of Amazon.com | |
The Numbers | link | Box office performance, home video sales, news, budget figures | Nash Information Services, LLC. | |
Lumiere | link | Database on admissions of films released in Europe | European Audiovisual Observatory |
Additionally, Deadline Hollywood (link) can also be used to cite box office numbers of films currently releasing in theaters. Note their data may not be as precise as some of the sources listed above.
Tagging and assessment
This activity is not currently supported by the task force.
Box Office Mojo
The Box Office Mojo website underwent an overhaul in 2019, resulting in several bugs that led to errors in charts and grosses in the database. The full extent of the issue is explained at the IMDb Customer Community boards. The second and third problems on that list (the incorrect release years and the algorithmic error in the weekend charts) have been addressed to the best of our knowledge.
However the first problem (the double counting of some release grosses) still remains and will need to be fixed manually. To take Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows – Part 1 as an example, the 2010 New Zealand gross is included again in the 2016 reissue gross and the 2010 Spain gross is included again in 2020 reissue gross. This means that these two grosses are counted twice (once in the original gross and again in the reissue gross), and thus artificially inflating the lifetime gross of the film.
This seems to be a common error affecting a whole slew of films that have had re-releases. The goal is to catalog the grosses that have been double-counted in the table below and liaise with Box Office Mojo staff to correct the figures. This venture is of mutual benefit to both Wikipedia and Box Office Mojo.
Title | Country | Gross year | Reissue year | Mistake in numbers | Fixed |
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How to Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World | Ukraine | 2019 | 2020 | $2,550,112 → $7,466 (?) | |
Brazil | 2019 | 2020 | $33,018 → $14,936 (?) | ||
Parasite | Bulgaria | 2019 | 2020 | $2,057 → ? | |
Escape Room (2017) → Escape Room (2019) | Ukraine | — | 2017 → 2019 | $1,068wknd → re-release of 2019 film | |
The Addams Family (2019) | Bulgaria | 2019 | 2020 | $32,617 → $1,624 (?) | |
The Lion King (2019) | Bulgaria | — | 2020 | $175,086 → remove | |
Portugal | — | 2020 | $732,110 → $1,387 (?) | ||
United Kingdom | — | 2020 | $5,020,760 (?) | ||
Captain Marvel | Portugal | 2019 | 2020 | $186,882 → $2,979 (?) | |
Black Panther | Portugal | 2018 | 2020 | $133,550 → $1,758 | |
Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom | Ukraine | 2018 | 2020 | $1,992,871 → $13,695 (?) | |
2020 2020 |
$852 (Brazil) $1,889 (Mexico) (?) |
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Mamma Mia! Here We Go Again | Croatia | 2018 | 2020 | $34,296 → $1,822 (?) | |
2020 2020 2020 2020 2020 |
$1,349 (Austria) $1,028 (Netherlands) $2,331 (Slovenia) $158 (Spain) $190 (New Zealand) (?) |
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Deadpool 2 | Australia | 2018 | 2020 | $165 → $304 (?) | |
Incredibles 2 | Portugal | 2018 | 2020 | $283,855 → $934 (?) | |
Star Wars: The Last Jedi | Bulgaria | 2017 | 2020 | $158,643 → remove | |
The Hitman's Bodyguard | South Korea | 2017 | 2020 | $16,285wknd → re-release | |
Get Out | Australia | 2017 | 2020 | $154,247 → $3,889 (?) | |
South Korea | 2017 | 2018 | $1,697 → into 2018 re-release
$6,561 → $8,096 (?) |
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Uruguay | 2017 | 2017 | $383wknd → Original Uruguayan release | ||
Ice Age: Collision Course | Bulgaria | 2016 | 2020 | $175,937 → remove | |
Deadpool | Australia | 2016 | 2020 | $99,418 → $571 (?) | |
New Zealand | 2020 | $125,218 → $1,682 | |||
Furious 7 | Bulgaria | 2015 | 2020 | $206,645 → remove | |
Star Wars: The Force Awakens | Bulgaria | 2015 | 2020 | $230,509 → $412 | |
Australia | 2015 | 2021 | $1,066,200? | ||
Yo-kai Watch: The Movie | South Korea | 2015 | 2016 | $47,642,462 → $2,207,657 | |
While We're Young | Italy | 2015 | 2015 | $145,942 → remove | |
Interstellar | South Korea | 2014 | 2020 | $5,963,657 → $77,713 (?) | |
Australia | 2014 | 2021 | $14,402,971 (?) | ||
South Korea | 2014 | 2021 | $57,679,500 → $84,904 (?) | ||
Annabelle | New Zealand | 2014 | 2020 | $531,621 → $359 (?) | |
Hoodwinked Too! Hood vs. Evil | Hong Kong | 2011 | 2011 | Confused with Red Riding Hood [1] (?)
$6,817,189 → $190,233 (?) |
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Drive | South Korea | 2011 | 2020 | $210,615 → $25,198 (?) | |
Inception | Brazil | 2010 | 2013 (?) | $1,565,477 → ? | |
Knight and Day | South Korea | 2010 | 2008 (?) | $59,333 → remove | |
The Ugly Truth | Slovenia | 2009 | 2009 | $25,243 → remove (Gola resnica film)
$116,383,693 → remove, $300,482 → original release |
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Day Watch | 2006 | 2006 | $38,411,815 → $34,267,145 (orig. release)
$4,506,117 → original release |
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Out of the Blue | 2006 | 2006 | $731,039 → $723,690 (orig. release)
$8,826 → original release |
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Pierrepoint | 2006 | 2006 | $614,906 → $429,706 (orig. release)
$209,950 → original release |
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Requiem | 2006 | 2006 | $252,860 → $5,095 (orig. release)
$260,877 → original release |
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Eleven Men Out | 2005 | 2005 | $221,655 → $165,922 (orig. release)
$56,733 → $57,035 → original release |
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Revolver | 2005 | 2005 | $6,727,187 → $6,383,305 (orig. release)
$428,620 → original release |
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The Amateurs | 2006 | 2005 | $47,919 → $9,308 (orig. release)
$54,945 → original release |
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Water | 2005 | 2006 | $4,893,243 → $2,300,674 (international) | ||
Mountain Patrol | 2005 | 2005 | $26,460 → $10,383 (orig. release)
$159,460 → original release |
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20 Centimeters | 2005 | 2005 | $422,000 → $415,765 (orig. release)
$17,632 → original release |
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Il ne faut jurer... de rien! | 2005 | 2005 | $6,019,125 → $5,886,689 (orig. release)
$155,878 → original release |
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Dark Water (2005) / Dark Water (2002) | 2005 | 2005 | $24,010,000 (int.) → include int. grosses from "re-release"
$25,473,352 (dom.) → original release, $18,873,727 → remove |
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Taiwan | — | 2005 → 2002 | $651,029 → 2002 film | ||
Black | 2005 | 2003 (?) | $3,141 → remove
$1,263,200 → original release |
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The New World | 2005 | 2005 | $17,823,920 → $269,908 (Dutch release in 2006, not 2003)
$31,510,855 + $269,908 → original release |
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Night Watch | 2004 | 2004 | $32,396,890 → $15,875,743 (orig. release)
$17,939,389 → original release |
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The Chorus | 2004 | 2004 | $82,032,134 (orig. release)
$6,353,810 → $1,548,036 (re-release) |
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Dead Man's Shoes | 2004 | 2004 | $191,673 → $186,304 (orig. release)
$11,777 → original release |
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Games of Love and Chance | 2004 | 2004 | $1,332,709 → $1,167,771
$249,616 → $8,085 (?) $164,938 → remove (?) |
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Kamikaze Girls | 2004 | 2004 | $5,151,609 → $5,046,894 (orig. release)
$139,139 → original release |
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Three... Extremes | Taiwan | 2004 | 2004 | $1,602 → $247,059 (?) | |
2005 | $84,976 → original release | ||||
The Overture | 2004 | 2004 | $1,300,586 → $1,297,100 (orig. release)
$5,740 → original release |
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Wondrous Oblivion | 2004 | 2004 | $802,740 (orig. release)
$571,562 → $88,560 → original release |
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The Room (2003) / The Room (2019) | — | 2003 | $4,971,497 → $1,301,103 | ||
— | 2019 | $3,453,912 → $1,483,424
$216,482 $41,412 |
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Memento | South Korea | 2001 | 2020 | $247,290 → $39,547 (?) | |
Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone | Brazil | 2001 | 2020 | $3,552,958 → $16,172 (?) | |
South Korea | 2001 | 2021 | $2,504,289 (?) | ||
Netherlands | 2001 | 2021 | $4,328,645 (?) | ||
Italy | 2001 | 2021 | $4,410,216 (?) | ||
Shrek | Australia | 2001 | 2020 2021 | $33,941 (?) | |
Gladiator | Netherlands | 2000 | 2020 | $4,777,216 → $15,186 (?) | |
Beauty and the Beast (1991) | 1991 | 2010 | $14,410,056 → $2,893,870 | ||
The Little Mermaid (2018) → The Little Mermaid (1989) | New Zealand | — | 2018 → 2020 | $17wknd → re-release | |
Dirty Dancing | Germany | 2007 ("1997") | $50,683 ("1997") → 2007 re-release, $310,033 ("1997") — remove | ||
The Shining | Italy | — | 2020 | $190,216 → $4,940 (?) | |
United Kingdom | — | 2020 | $278,202 → $49,725 (?) | ||
Some Like It Hot (1959) | Australia | — | 2020 | $115,084 → $1,400 (?) | |
New Zealand | — | 2016 → 2016 | $3,103 → 2016 film | ||
Toy Story / Toy Story 2 double bill (2009) | 2009 | 2009 | $32,284,600 (Toy Story / Toy Story 2 double bill gross now credited solely to Toy Story) |
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Beauty and the Beast (2017) | New Zealand | — | 2020 | $373,242 (?) | |
Jurassic Park (1993) | 1993 | — | Total grosses: $1,109,802,321 → $1,033,928,303 (double counting non-domestic reissue grosses) | ||
Rogue One | Colombia | 2016 | 2022 | $1,261,755 → $478 (?) | |
Zootopia | Australia | 2016 | 2020 | $329,209 (?) | |
Moana | Australia | 2016 | 2020 | $17,014,054 (?) | |
The Secret Life of Pets | Australia | 2016 | 2022 | $18,869,838 → $497 (?) | |
Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets | Italy | 2002 | 2021 | $22,053,763 → $373,775 (?) | |
Italy | 2002 | 2022 | $22,307,825 → $10,907 (?) | ||
The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies | Spain | 2014 | 2020 | $5,710,065 → $11,794 (?) | |
Jumanji: Welcome to the Jungle | Australia | 2017 | 2020 | $33,166,426 (?) | |
Bohemian Rhapsody | Australia | 2018 | 2020 | $626,679 (?) | |
New Zealand | 2018 | 2020 | $53,673 (?) | ||
United Kingdom | 2018 | 2020 | $6,209,212 (?) |