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Wanted GA reassessment[edit]

I've opened a community GA reassessment of Wanted. The article has had quite a fall from grace since its promotion in 2009, and I believe it needs to be demoted. Corvoe (speak to me) 15:53, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

A serious problem with MCU articles[edit]

I've been noticing a recurring trend lately, and it's getting a bit alarming. While the effort to make the MCU film articles look similar is admirable and sensible, some of the responses to changes that go against how other MCU articles look is getting worrisome. I need to put a very, very heavy emphasis on WP:OTHERSTUFF WP:OSE. This is what reverting has largely come down to, and it's a problem. Any time I've tried to make what I believe is an improvement to formatting, I end up with a response regarding how other MCU articles don't do it. For instance, I recently removed the post-credits scene description from Guardians of the Galaxy (film). I know that was a bold edit, and I completely understand it getting reverted. However, an edit summary reading "Other MCU films include post credit scenes in the plot section." is a perfect example of why OTHERSTUFF OSE was written. This has just happened again at Ant-Man (film), when I tried adding actor last names to characters. The rationale? "it might be nice, but we don't do that in MCU film articles".

I don't want to come off like I'm complaining that my edits are being reverted. I'm not. It's not like I'm really fired up about removing a credits sequence or adding some names. I'm concerned about the mentality across MCU articles. Just because the current standard across the articles may say one thing, that doesn't make it right. That doesn't make it the best option. And that certainly doesn't make it a reasonable reversion rationale.

I love working on these articles with you guys. You're a very knowledgable group of people and I respect every single one of you immensely. But we need to stop this blind reverting for the sake of unity. We need good rationale, or we need discussion. We have to accept that people not "in the loop" with these articles have ideas that could vastly improve them. We need to figure out what's best for each article, even if that isn't linear with what the unified format is. And most importantly, we don't need to talk about other stuff.

Some of you might see this as trivial (a user said that about my discussion over the Guardians scene), and if you do, I apologize. But I'm legitimately concerned about this, and I think it's worth discussing. Sock (tock talk) 20:21, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for the concern Sock. Part of that reasoning is that we ARE striving to find that unity across the film articles, is so that they will be compliant with WP:GT?. However, I'm not stating this to discourage you or other from attempting changes. Yes, the complacent response has been what you said, but only in the interest of uniformity. If something such as the post credit scene wants to be removed, that is something pretty large that will effect all the other pages. Changing the lead, not so much. But then again, if you change one, we should change them all. For the record, I don't really mind that one, because readers may not know who the actors are for the characters. So I will be bold and say we should make that change. But for the post credit scenes, that one deserves some larger discussion, which maybe should be had at the main page or the List of films page. And that's not to say we shouldn't remove them, as we may find a great solution to do so. As an example, I recently subsectioned GotG because we had a large amount of various content to warrant it. I was really hesitant to do so, because we are striving or the uniformity, but I realized that it was necessary, and would not detract much in the long run. I hope that answers some of your questions/concerns. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 00:21, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for the response, Favre. I totally agree that larger discussion involving the post-credits scene was necessary, but again, the actual content of the edits wasn't what I was attempting to discuss here. It was based more on the response to the edits. I'm glad that you see where my concern is. Sock (tock talk) 05:19, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
First of all, WP:OTHERSTUFF has to do with notability, not formatting. Beyond that, the post-credit scenes receive widespread media coverage, so an individual judgement call about the significance of its content is likely trumped by its notability. And the actors, first and last name, are listed with their characters in the section just below the plot. It is common practice among all WP:FILM articles to not include actor names in film summaries, not just MCU articles. You're right that "Other MCU articles do this" is not the best justification on its own, but it can be difficult to get into expanded reasoning in an edit summary. So never hesitate to use the talk page if you disagree with an edit :) -Fandraltastic (talk) 02:44, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for catching that, I've updated my post to refer to WP:OSE (my intended target). I forgot that OTHERSTUFF and OTHERSTUFFEXISTS aren't the same. Again, this comment is not about the content of the edits, but rather the method in which they've been handled. And I wasn't suggested to include actor names in the summaries, simply in the lead section (which is done in many Good and Features articles). Sock (tock talk) 05:19, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

Superhero names[edit]

Following a dispute at Captain America: The Winter Soldier, I requested a third opinion about the form in which superhero names are presented and was told by Ryk72 that, "A search of related WikiProjects does not show any MoS, guidelines or standards documenting a consensus on this specific question." See the "Superhero names" thread on the Captain America: The Winter Soldier talk page. The issue is whether superhero names should be given as "real name / codename" pairings (for example Bruce Banner/Hulk) outside the cast section. I think it's unnecessary and unhelpful to readers to do so. Ryk72 suggested that "the question be referred to WP:WikiProject Comics & WP:WikiProject_Film/Comic_book_films_task_force for development of a wider (more editors) and more specific (this exact question) consensus." Comments? FreeKnowledgeCreator (talk) 08:29, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

Request for comments[edit]

This is a neutral notice that there is a discussion concerning at MediaWiki (talk) 12:52, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

Archived old addressed threads[edit]

I've archived some old and/or addressed threads. Addressed means for example notifications for deletion discussions that have since been closed.

Archived threads older than two (2) years old. — Cirt (talk) 04:59, 14 October 2015 (UTC)