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In the ISW's latest map update, they have reported that Russian forces control most of Fedora Maksymenka Street and part of adjacent set of blocks. Should we interpret this as Bakhmut is now contested? <span style="font-family:Copperplate Gothic, Ebrima;background-color:OrangeRed;border-radius:7px;text-shadow:2px 2px 4px#000000;padding:3px 3px;">[[User:Physeters|<span style="color:Gold">'''Physeters'''</span>]]</span><sup>[[User talk:Physeters|✉]]</sup> 22:09, 20 December 2022 (UTC) |
In the ISW's latest map update, they have reported that Russian forces control most of Fedora Maksymenka Street and part of adjacent set of blocks. Should we interpret this as Bakhmut is now contested? <span style="font-family:Copperplate Gothic, Ebrima;background-color:OrangeRed;border-radius:7px;text-shadow:2px 2px 4px#000000;padding:3px 3px;">[[User:Physeters|<span style="color:Gold">'''Physeters'''</span>]]</span><sup>[[User talk:Physeters|✉]]</sup> 22:09, 20 December 2022 (UTC) |
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:That is just a few streets on the edge of the city. Sure, Ukr didn't control the city 100% this week, but Ru presence in a small fraction of the city hardly constitutes contested control of the city. Anyway, latest reports are that they have been driven out. Our map shows Ru pressure on the eastern side, which I think is sufficient. A note in the article about that would be ok, but not sourced to a map, as "Copying from maps is strictly prohibited". [[User:Nurg|Nurg]] ([[User talk:Nurg|talk]]) 00:05, 21 December 2022 (UTC) |
:That is just a few streets on the edge of the city. Sure, Ukr didn't control the city 100% this week, but Ru presence in a small fraction of the city hardly constitutes contested control of the city. Anyway, latest reports are that they have been driven out. Our map shows Ru pressure on the eastern side, which I think is sufficient. A note in the article about that would be ok, but not sourced to a map, as "Copying from maps is strictly prohibited". [[User:Nurg|Nurg]] ([[User talk:Nurg|talk]]) 00:05, 21 December 2022 (UTC) |
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::Yeah right, so Russian forces controlling almost 20% of territory of Bakhmut is not contested, but on the other hand Ukrainians controlling one salt mine in Soledar means Soledar is contested. Double standards as usual. [[Special:Contributions/77.56.54.159|77.56.54.159]] ([[User talk:77.56.54.159|talk]]) 00:13, 14 January 2023 (UTC) |
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Luhansk Oblast
Russian media claim that they have taken 100% control over the Luhansk region (+ north of Donetsk oblast). They have been claiming this since December 9 on the website https://opermap.mash.ru/. Therefore, you should at least change the map. Arabik4892 (talk) 20:22, 14 December 2022 (UTC)
- Thats False, Ukranian just repelled attacks in bilohorivka, Chervonopopivka, Makiiva and etc Lucasoliveira653 (talk) 21:22, 14 December 2022 (UTC)
- Yeah, for any change to be made to the main map of the 2022 Russian Invasion of Ukraine, let alone the very large one you propose, there has to be solid evidence from multiple sources, not just one. Johnson524 (Talk!) 02:04, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
- File:Proof2 RUUKRWAR.png look. on north Donetsk oblast ^) Arabik4892 (talk) 14:58, 20 December 2022 (UTC)
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Kreminna should be marked with "Enemy pressure from one side" Lucasoliveira653 (talk) 21:24, 14 December 2022 (UTC)
Time to mark Bakhmut as contested?
In the ISW's latest map update, they have reported that Russian forces control most of Fedora Maksymenka Street and part of adjacent set of blocks. Should we interpret this as Bakhmut is now contested? Physeters✉ 22:09, 20 December 2022 (UTC)
- That is just a few streets on the edge of the city. Sure, Ukr didn't control the city 100% this week, but Ru presence in a small fraction of the city hardly constitutes contested control of the city. Anyway, latest reports are that they have been driven out. Our map shows Ru pressure on the eastern side, which I think is sufficient. A note in the article about that would be ok, but not sourced to a map, as "Copying from maps is strictly prohibited". Nurg (talk) 00:05, 21 December 2022 (UTC)
- Yeah right, so Russian forces controlling almost 20% of territory of Bakhmut is not contested, but on the other hand Ukrainians controlling one salt mine in Soledar means Soledar is contested. Double standards as usual. 77.56.54.159 (talk) 00:13, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
Draw Novoselivs'ke Новоселівське
Draw Draw Novoselivs'ke on map please Ukrainians take it
KRAKEN publish a video taking the place https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usRRNFXgRAo
REUTERS https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/most-ukraine-regions-suffer-power-outages-after-russian-missile-barrage-2022-12-29/ Logftw1 (talk) 03:44, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
- The video has just been released but the footage was filmed weeks ago and the Russians retook the village soon after. It is not clear who, if anyone, currently controls it. The reports cited are unconfirmed. Nurg (talk) 04:29, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
- This map says: 11 hours ago “Kraken stormed Novoselivske in Luhansk region”, and shows it as front-line
likewise to ISW map ☆☆☆—PietadèTalk 06:23, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
- This map says: 11 hours ago “Kraken stormed Novoselivske in Luhansk region”, and shows it as front-line
Yahoo Said Ukranaians controlled it
Ukrainian defenders have liberated the village of Novoselivske in Kolomyichykha
Quote from KRAKEN: "The occupied village of Novoselivske in Luhansk Oblast was raided by the unit's assault group forces, with the support of artillery and heavy equipment of KRAKEN and the 92nd Mechanised Brigade.
As a result, the enemy was expelled from the settlement; they suffered losses in equipment and manpower, and some of the occupiers were taken captive.
At the moment, the village is under control of the Ukrainian army."
That Said yahoo December 30 2022
Just draw it — Preceding unsigned comment added by Logftw1 (talk • contribs) 16:44, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
Source December 31 "Today, Ukrainian soldiers are in full control of Novoselivske."
https://news.yahoo.com/dramatic-video-ukraine-kraken-special-113700723.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by Logftw1 (talk • contribs) 16:50, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
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Change Tavilzhanka to Ukrainian controlled. AnonymousPlatypuses (talk) 15:42, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
- Liveuamap does not yet show it as Ukrainian controlled, though it does not show it anymore as Russian controlled. We need to wait. Ymblanter (talk) 16:25, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
- I believe their source is the ISW, as they said on December 27 the Ukraine took back Tavilzhanka. Physeters✉ 03:18, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
Not done for now: We need reliable source for changing this. Lemonaka (talk) 07:20, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
Tavilzhanka- contested or in Ukrainian control?
Tavilzhanka has said to be in Ukrainian control since the 27th December yet it is still down as contested an this map. AnonymousPlatypuses (talk) 12:03, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
- Would you please read the topic just above, which you yourself started? Otherwise, you can not pass the Turing test. Ymblanter (talk) 12:06, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
Subheading links
All the subheadings link to their respective oblasts. That makes it hard for me on mobile phone to expand them because it takes me the page for the oblast. Is it possible to link to them some other way? Luka's not a fish (talk) 19:47, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
- It is. The template {{Main article}} could be used here, I think. HappyWithWhatYouHaveToBeHappyWith (talk) 21:09, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
- I have unlinked the headings per MOS:SECTIONHEAD. There are links in the map. Nurg (talk) 10:52, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
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