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:'''Nominator's rationale:''' Common term and Pakistan Army operates more then one bases. [[Special:Contributions/37.111.134.77|37.111.134.77]] ([[User talk:37.111.134.77|talk]]) 11:50, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
:'''Nominator's rationale:''' Common term and Pakistan Army operates more then one bases. [[Special:Contributions/37.111.134.77|37.111.134.77]] ([[User talk:37.111.134.77|talk]]) 11:50, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
* '''Merge''' to [[:Category:Pakistan Army]], there are only two articles in this category. [[User:Marcocapelle|Marcocapelle]] ([[User talk:Marcocapelle|talk]]) 12:42, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
* '''Merge''' to [[:Category:Pakistan Army]], there are only two articles in this category. [[User:Marcocapelle|Marcocapelle]] ([[User talk:Marcocapelle|talk]]) 12:42, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
::{{Ping|Marcocapelle}} {{ping|William Allen Simpson}} kindly reconsider your vote, I linked this category to more articles after being rename this category will become notable and it will cover all land and airbases of Pakistan army (similar to the Indian & Australian), Pakistan Army & its Aviation Units operates many land & airbases. many bases yet not have article on wikipedia but in future this category will also cover them [[Special:Contributions/37.111.137.22|37.111.137.22]] ([[User talk:37.111.137.22|talk]]) 07:34, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
* '''Rename''' — to match [[:Category:Army installations by country]], there are now 7 in the category.<br />[[User:William Allen Simpson|William Allen Simpson]] ([[User talk:William Allen Simpson|talk]]) 07:26, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
* '''Rename''' — to match [[:Category:Army installations by country]], there are now 7 in the category.<br />[[User:William Allen Simpson|William Allen Simpson]] ([[User talk:William Allen Simpson|talk]]) 07:26, 30 January 2023 (UTC)


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January 29

Category:Transylvanian-Saxon people

Nominator's rationale: No reason for a hyphen. See article Transylvanian Saxons. Super Ψ Dro 22:11, 29 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Programmes with changes of network affiliation

Nominator's rationale: Overcategorization on a non-defining characteristic. The simple fact of having changed networks does not unite all such shows into a significant grouping of programs that would get discussed or analyzed collectively on this basis -- so while a show in that boat should certainly be categorized for all of the networks that aired it, the simple fact of having changed network affiliation is not itself a defining basis for its own dedicated category.
For added bonus, the category has been malformed, with six programs listed on the category page as text and only one program actually filed in the category.
While we have deleted at least one differently-named category for this same characteristic in the past (Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2008 November 2#Category:Multi network television series), and it may have been tried again at other names I haven't found yet, that was long enough ago that I felt it more appropriate to list this for discussion rather than just speedying it as a recreation of previously deleted content. The basis for a category here is not "a number of shows can be found to which this happened" — it requires that those shows would be united by that into a culturally significant group, which is not the case. Bearcat (talk) 21:22, 29 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Culture by mountain range

Nominator's rationale: Mountain ranges typically divide populations, and prevent migration. Thus far, has only Alps and Himalayan culture‎. Seems an unlikely and unnecessary shim category, already well served under Category:Culture by region.
William Allen Simpson (talk) 18:00, 29 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Presiding Bishops of the Old Roman Catholic Church in North America

Nominator's rationale: The category only has one item in it, therefore it should be deleted. As a sidenote, the article on the Old Roman Catholic Church in North America was deleted after this AFD. Veverve (talk) 17:20, 29 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: No apparent distinction between the two categories; nor reason to have both. DB1729talk 15:40, 29 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Convention centers in Delaware

Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT. Also merge to Category:Convention centers in the United States. –Aidan721 (talk) 15:36, 29 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:15th century in the Captaincy General of Chile

Nominator's rationale: merge, the Captaincy General of Chile did not exist yet in the 15th century or until 1541. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:31, 29 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Mapuche territorial units

Nominator's rationale: merge, only two articles in this category and no other of these territoriale units categories as far as I can see. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:21, 29 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Vera Mukhina Institute alumni

Nominator's rationale: Name it after parent article Saint Petersburg Stieglitz State Academy of Art and Design. Super Ψ Dro 12:08, 29 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Pakistan Army Airbase

Nominator's rationale: Common term and Pakistan Army operates more then one bases. 37.111.134.77 (talk) 11:50, 29 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Marcocapelle: @William Allen Simpson: kindly reconsider your vote, I linked this category to more articles after being rename this category will become notable and it will cover all land and airbases of Pakistan army (similar to the Indian & Australian), Pakistan Army & its Aviation Units operates many land & airbases. many bases yet not have article on wikipedia but in future this category will also cover them 37.111.137.22 (talk) 07:34, 30 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Academic staff in Africa and Asia

Propose renaming
etcetera
THE FULL LIST OF NOMINATED CATEGORIES IS ON THE TALK PAGE
Nominator's rationale: rename, this is follow-up on Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_January_3#Academics_in_Europe. Faculty is ambiguous: it may well refer to an organizational unit of a university rather than to people. On the other hand academic staff is entirely clear. So far only Europe has been changed. I have now nominated all countries in Africa and Asia. Possibly the Philippines and Israel should be excluded as they should follow US terminology at all times. Dependent on the outcome of this discussion I will continue with Latin America, Oceania and Canada afterwards (maybe not all simultaneously). Marcocapelle (talk) 10:59, 29 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Fayenatic london, Justlettersandnumbers, David Eppstein, Piotrus, Santasa99, Joy, Jonathan A Jones, Oculi, Doprendek, Necrothesp, No such user, Robminchin, ElKevbo, Waggers, Place Clichy, Peterkingiron, and William Allen Simpson: pinging contributors to previous discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:00, 29 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I'll repost one bit as it's buried in walls of text there - I came across https://www.lawinsider.com/dictionary/academic-staff which seems to be useful for an overview of formal English usage. There's examples there from Australia, India, UK, Zimbabwe, Jamaica, Kenya, Ethiopia, Canada, South Africa, Malaysia, Ireland and elsewhere, that indicate this terminology is common there. Hopefully, this is also a relevant indication of vernacular usage. --Joy (talk) 11:10, 29 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Absolutely in support of renaming, per nom, and also if in doubt check out Joy's link. Haven't we already discussed this "faculty" issue elsewhere and decided to drop the term in favor of "academic personnel/staff".--౪ Santa ౪99° 11:58, 29 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support renaming per nom – As I noted in the earlier discussion, "academic staff" is also used in US universities with the same meaning, e.g. Cornell, thus this is an opportunity for MOS:COMMONALITY rather than using either the British "academics" (which has an incompatible meaning in US English) or the US "faculty" (which has an incompatible meaning in British English). Robminchin (talk) 16:46, 29 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support — harmonization of lengthy prior discussion(s).
    William Allen Simpson (talk) 16:47, 29 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. The WP:ENGVAR-violating drive to impose English-specific terminology and eliminate American-specific terminology in these categories continues, as one might expect it to, with still no attempt at finding common ground, and still no evidence of which terminology is actually used in the specific institutions affected by this recategorization. For instance, my impression is that African and south Asian institutions (likely because of their colonial past) often use English structures, while east Asian ones often use American structures; that distinction is lost in this blind "let's just vote for the dialect I'm familar with" poll. —David Eppstein (talk) 19:14, 29 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose as a blanket rename. There are 2 Engvar issues here: (a) faculty versus academic and (b) the change from 'Foo academics/faculty' to 'academic staff of'. Everywhere (nearly) except the British Isles uses 'foo alumni' and 'foo people': eg Category:People by university or college in India, Category:Alumni by university or college in India. It is not difficult to find examples where faculty/academics are used in the US sense, eg Liberia, Kenya, China, India, Japan, Iraq, Pakistan. I agree with David Eppstein: this is a UK-centric proposal to introduce 'of' globally and to replace 'faculty' whether or not it is the local usage. I am very surprised that no one is offering the usual argument: 'Academic staff of Cairo University' is twice the length of 'Cairo University faculty' (which is not ambiguous anyway as a category name) for no gain whatever. I have no objection to changing 'academics' (which is ambiguous globally) to 'academic staff'. Oculi (talk) 23:06, 29 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Non-profit organizations based in Port Townsend, Washington

Nominator's rationale: merge, only one article in the category. A second merge target is unneeded, the article is already in Category:Companies based in Port Townsend, Washington as well. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:19, 29 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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