Talk:Mustafa Kemal Atatürk

Semi-protected edit request on 26 June 2014

[musˈtäfä ceˈmäl ätäˈtyɾc] ---> [musˈtafa keˈmal ataˈtyɾc]

Nevermind past request, i get it, K is written as C, but it might as well be written as K

ɑ is the right letter for a in Mustafa Kemal, there is no ä in turkish ipa http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:IPA_for_Turkish,_Azerbaijani_and_Turkmen and K is better than C, turkish learners may be confused, because C is pronounced DJ

Scottish Rite Freemasonry

Atatürk was initiated in the Scottish Rite regular Masonic Lodge Macedonia Risorta et Veritas No. 80 of Salonicco (Robert A. Minder: Freimaurer Politiker Lexikon, Edition zum rauhen Stein, ISBN 3-7065-1909-7, p. 229–231...Atatürk, Kemal. In: Eugen Lennhoff, Oskar Posner: Internationales Freimaurerlexikon. 2006, ISBN 3-7766-2161-3, p. 92.) The historician Andrew Mango considers his affiliation to the Freemasonry to be highly verisimilar (Andrew Mango: Atatürk, John Murray, 1999, ISBN 0-7195-5612-0, p. 93.).

Infobox image

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  Similar photo on Commons (Option A)
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  Current Infobox photo (Option B)

I was looking at photos on Commons and I noticed that there is a similar photograph to the current infobox photo (Option A) that appears to not be as washed out as the current infobox photo (Option B), but also appears to be the same pose and outfit. I think the similar photo on Commons is a better quality photo than the current infobox photo; it's less washed out and it seems more real-looking than the current infobox photo. I think Option A (or some crop of it) is going to be better than Option B, but I wanted to check with other editors here before I go and change the infobox photo. — Red-tailed hawk _(nest) 05:02, 11 November 2022 (UTC)

I concur. Please go ahead and change it. PhalanxDown (talk) 20:15, 30 November 2022 (UTC)

I changed it now. I would also choose Option A. Ayıntaplı (talk) 19:54, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

I'd say option B is better because it is less blurry and brighter. -Vipz (talk) 01:04, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

I think B is better than other one. Cause B looks more brighter and clear, Option A looks so dark. Werg57 (talk) 06:15, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

@Ayıntaplı: you may want to include more editors in this discussion because, as you can see with newer comments, there is no clear consensus in favor of the option A. -Vipz (talk) 02:13, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

Yes, I saw the talk page just before you commented and reverted myself. Ayıntaplı (talk) 02:14, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

Link?

Would it be possible to add a link to the mention of İsmet İnönü as it appears in the infobox? MauriceFrancisEgan (talk) 00:22, 5 January 2023 (UTC)

Is mentioned several times in the article. First time (beside the Infobox) in the fourth paragraph of the lead.Paradise Chronicle (talk) 02:30, 5 January 2023 (UTC)

Illnesses and Death

The section “Illness and Death” has the following line

“ He was the first president of Turkey to die in office.”

Correct me if I’m wrong but… isn’t the the first President of Turkey too? Anything he does is as “the first president of turkey to…” right? Maybe we should delete this as it is… redundant 142.115.26.36 (talk) 00:00, 2 March 2023 (UTC)

I'd agree that the statement is a bit superfluous given that we say that he died in office, so I've removed that content from the article. — Red-tailed hawk _(nest) 16:42, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 31 March 2023

In his 2002 book King of the Mountain, political scientist Arnold Ludwig states that Atatürk sought to alleviate ethnic and religious sectarianism by imposing a unified theory of nationality (p. 303). Ludwig concluded his study by finding that Atatürk was the most successful statesman of the 20th century with a Political Greatness Scale (PGS) of 31 (p. 379).

In his post World War I memoirs The World Crisis, former British prime minister Winston Churchill called Atatürk "The Man of Destiny" and "Warrior Prince". Churchill detailed how Atatürk's decisive action against the British landing at Arı Burnu during the Gallipoli campaign delivered the Turks victory (Vol. II, p. 335; Vol. V, p. 389).

Please add this text to legacy section. 95.12.127.137 (talk) 09:18, 31 March 2023 (UTC)