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Your submission at Articles for creation: Ochakovo (May 20)

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HenryTemplo (talk) 15:20, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

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Good evening. Reasons for rejection are, and I quote, "This submission appears to read more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia. Encyclopedia articles need to be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources, not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed." There's a grand total of zero references to Ochakovo-published materials, because no part of the article is dependent on material published by the company. The only part of the article that I reckon could be considered "praise" of the company is the mention that the company still holds a relevant position the Russian market in spite of having steadily lost market share. I do not see how saying a company has been steadily displaced can be considered an advertisement for the company (any company).

The second reason appears to be that (and I quote once again) "This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of organizations and companies)." How is the second-largest manufacturer of kvas (by market share) in Russia, as well as a major brewery, not a relevant company? There are literally articles about microbreweries in the far ends of the world with close to zero references and a major beverage manufacturer in a central country is deemed unsuitable?

Furthermore, the sources mentioned in the article are arguably the two largest financial media in Russia. I would argue this speaks both to the "notability" of the firm in question and to the fact that the article in itself is not an "advertisement", as you call it.

I would appreciate clarification, because the arguments cited in this rejection make less than zero sense to me. Ostalgia (talk) 18:17, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Ioanno-Predtechensky Monastery has been accepted

Ioanno-Predtechensky Monastery, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.

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Cerebellum (talk) 09:27, 22 May 2022 (UTC)

Creating multiple drafts on same subject

Hi Ostalgia, I see you created Draft:Ochakovo and Draft:Ochakovo (Russian beverage company). I suspect you did this because of the note about disambiguation. Actually there was no action you needed to take. If accepted, the reviewer will move it to the appropriate title. In order to maintain a complete history for attribution and other purposes there should be only one draft about a subject. I did add a note to Draft:Ochakovo (Russian beverage company) referring to the original draft to make things clear. Just be sure going forward you stick to one draft, which I am assuming will be Draft:Ochakovo (Russian beverage company).

No worries. There was no way for you know this and it appears you are the only major contributor to both so likely no need for a history merge or the like (creates a headache). S0091 (talk) 18:30, 22 May 2022 (UTC)

My apologies, thanks for the heads up. Ostalgia (talk) 18:44, 22 May 2022 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Ochakovo (Russian beverage company) has been accepted

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SlySabre (talk) 14:55, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

Eugenio Bulygin moved to draftspace

An article you recently created, Eugenio Bulygin, is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 05:41, 11 September 2022 (UTC)

You could've waited for a while as I literally stated I was going to be referencing everything today. Everything posted there is verifiable, you can do it yourself if you're so impatient. We're dealing with a top legal philosopher of the 20th century, not some obscure figure from the middle ages. I spent half of yesterday fixing an article that had remained unsourced and orphaned for literally over a decade and you can't even wait 24 hours even though it has been stated by the editor? Seriously, what is wrong with you people? Ostalgia (talk) 06:28, 11 September 2022 (UTC)

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Oh golly! Ostalgia (talk) 18:53, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

September 2022

Hello and welcome to Wikipedia. Constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, but a recent edit of yours to the page Eugenio Bulygin has an edit summary that appears to be inadequate, inaccurate, or inappropriate. The summaries are helpful to people browsing an article's history, so it is important that you use edit summaries that accurately tell other editors what you did. Feel free to use the sandbox to make test edits. Thank you. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:22, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

It would be truly wonderful to know what exactly you're referring to. Ostalgia (talk) 17:32, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

I'm guessing I should ping you Hey man im josh. Ostalgia (talk) 17:41, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

Pings definitely help, as I don't follow the individual pages of people I give warnings to. It was in reference to this dif. You were absolutely within your rights to move the page back to main space, but the insult was unnecessary and inappropriate. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:45, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

Ah, yes. I mentioned on an ANI post on the subject that it wasn't really the best reaction on my part. However, the fact that NPP seems to be dealing with the most recent posts and not working from the back of the queue, while I had spent several hours trying to rescue an orphan, unsourced article that even had an inaccurate title was... annoying, let's put it that way. Needless to say, it doesn't justify calling the other guy a nincompoop, but it would be great if they dealt with the backlog and gave users a couple hours, even a day, to deal with new articles that are evidently not spam, self promotion or abuse. Cheers, Hey man im josh. Ostalgia (talk) 17:59, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

Edit warring block

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Canterbury Tail talk 16:47, 30 September 2022 (UTC)

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Ostalgia (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

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Request reason:

So an admin arrives to ANI a day after a discussion was started, doesn't read or at least doesn't provide any indication that he has read what's being discussed, does not express himself on the topic of the argument at all, which has been treated as a content dispute (something that was, at best, a completely secondary issue), and merely blocks both users for edit warring without seeing if there was something else going on (and without even returning to the status quo ante [edit] bellum, as would be logical in that case). In spite of what the block reason states, I literally did not introduce any changes, controversial or otherwise, to the consensus pages, with the exception of removing an old and obvious piece of vandalism. On top of this, the block comes only after talk page discussions have started, and presumably without even having read them. If this were indeed a content dispute, as it seems to have been treated, can any rational person seriously expect it to simply subside after a 24 hour block, especially when both people have been blocked after they started talking? If you assume the other user who was blocked to be acting in good faith (which I no longer do, I freely admit it), where is the sense in not even letting him reply? Furthermore, the broader issue that was brought up at ANI will probably just languish there and be archived with no decision being made. Can someone explain to me how this has improved the situation, or will improve it in the future? If someone seriously believes this is a logical, efficient and sensible to resolve problems then I truly don't know what to say and you might as well indef me. Ostalgia (talk) 17:42, 30 September 2022 (UTC)

Decline reason:

You seem to be trying to justify your edit warring, not tell us why it was wrong. 331dot (talk) 19:09, 30 September 2022 (UTC)

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Request reason:

I think I'm entitled to assume you, as an administrator, already know why edit warring is wrong. It's frustrating, it's annoying, it serves no purpose, and I've personally had to deal with that even from users with tens of thousands of edits. I don't get a kick out of edit warring, gatekeeping, or stonewalling other good faith users. I mentioned at ANI that I didn't want to break 3RR and therefore wouldn't revert Principality of Halych, which I didn't, but the admin who blocked me and my "opponent", so to speak, accused me of doing so "10 minutes later, breaking 3RR", which is quite simply not true - I reverted another page, Latin exonyms, at the time he points out, but it was my third edit for the day (and it was to restore an entire section that was repeatedly blanked, which I believe constitutes vandalism under 3RR, and which I did explicitly say I was going to revert if he did again). I did not touch Halych in the 5 hours from my last edit to the block, and in fact I didn't touch exonyms between my third edit and the block. Ironically, what both of us did do was start discussing the topics on talk pages 3 hours before being blocked (I dumped over 3k bytes on Halych, with a bunch of references). Have I edit warred in the past? Yes, but only to restore consensus content that was being vandalised or removed for goals foreign to the encyclopedia (a week ago, for instance, on the article on Bulgakov, where two or three IPs were trying to replace content and, as I admitted on another ANI, I "went ham", i.e. overreacted, when trying to preserve the article). I have never added content against consensus, never restored reverted content unless I could justify it (or it was agreed on a talk page), and have never edit warred to preserve a contentious edit that another user has justified qualms about. I have tried to reach consensus (sucessfully or not) on many articles, and even sought to mediate in content disputes on topics I don't even edit, but find interesting. You can check my edits, the good and the bad, I have nothing to hide. I could alternatively write some fake contrition message here and ask you, or any other admin, to unblock me "pretty please" and then go about my business, as many do, but I don't really care about the block itself, as I very explicitly mentioned ("you might as well indef me"). What I do want is to solve the underlying issue brought up at ANI, because otherwise, if I'm correct and the user has an axe to grind, he will start RGW again as soon as 24 hours have passed, and if I'm wrong and the other user is indeed a good faith user, then the block has only made things worse, because it does not allow him to present his response on the talk pages that were started. Ostalgia (talk) 19:58, 30 September 2022 (UTC)

Decline reason:

One open unblock request at a time, please. — Daniel Case (talk) 06:23, 1 October 2022 (UTC)

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The history of the page is pretty clear that 10 minutes after you said you didn't want to break 3RR on the ANI, that you then made your 4th revert on the Latin exonyms page within 24 hours. It's quite clear cut.

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Very clearly 4 reverts in 24 hours. Additionally you are very very aware that you were edit warring as per the discussion at ANI. There are very very few cases where this wouldn't be edit warring, in very clear cut cases of vandalism, which this wasn't it's a content dispute. We have a very clear definition of what is vandalism. You know what edit warring is, and yet you deliberately continued your edit warring on Latin exonyms. There is no such thing as being right in an edit war, and it takes two to edit war hence why both of you were blocked for clearly breaking 3RR being aware of what you were doing. Even if you hadn't broken 3RR (which you did) you'd likely still have been blocked for the edit warring, 3RR is not some clear cut line and both of you were being very obviously disruptive. And incidentally you did exceed 3RR on the Principality of Halych article by performing 5 reverts in a 24 hour period anyway. Canterbury Tail talk 20:47, 30 September 2022 (UTC)

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

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Request reason:

Allow me to begin by saying –once again– that the ANI was not about a content dispute, and it would be great if you at least acknowledged that, even if you decide not to do anything about it. I opened a topic on ANI because I found a systematic disruptive behaviour on the part of a user, one that goes well beyond any articles where we may clash (and that I spotted by chance, because our interests do not overlap in general). Neither you nor anyone else seems to have checked that, even though the person in question has two warnings and a DSA posted in 2 days because of his disruptive editting patterns. As for your accusation, I very clearly stated that I would refrain from reverting Halych because I didn't want to break 3RR on Halych, and I did not revert, and I equally clearly stated that I considered the blanking of the Russia subsection on Latin exonyms as mere vandalism and I would revert it as necessary, and did exactly that. If I broke 3RR it was an accident (for which I apologise) because I don't really look at the exact time when I edit stuff, and I merely knew I had performed two reverts today. Now you may think I am wrong, and I can accept being wrong, but what you're doing is implying that I lied and act in bad faith, which is false, and I will kindly ask you to retract that statement, because I did exactly as I said I would. Ostalgia (talk) 22:51, 30 September 2022 (UTC)

Decline reason:

The block is only for 24 hours and is almost over. You went over 3RR, and you do not appear to be contesting that. If it was a longer block, an early unblock would be possible if you agreed to stay away from the articles you were reverting, but for such a short block, my advice is to just wait until the block is over. PhilKnight (talk) 14:59, 1 October 2022 (UTC)

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As I can see from your talk page, a lot of your edits are ludicrous and non-sensical, and there is evidence of you engaging in edit warring, so I recommend you stay away from pages regarding Eastern Europe as you are not the sharpest tool in the shed when it comes to that type of subject. For instance, on the KMBD page, you said that the sentence explaining how Koshkin's variant was inferior to Morozov's variant was "racist". Also, a lot of the sources you use for your edits come from the government of the Russian Federation, which is infamous for being deceptive and untrue. Only weak minded people believe what the Russian Federation says. You are not weak-minded, are you? WikipolicePolizei (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 15:08, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

@WikipolicePolizei: Ostalgia's edits have clearly been problematic in the past (note the edit warring block), but your edits have also been problematic in ignoring Wikipedia's neutrality policy. You clearly have issues with the conflict between Russia and Ukraine, and you are free to hold whatever opinions you like about that issue, but you may not bring those opinions into your Wikipedia editing. Also, you must not engage in personal attacks on other editors. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 15:13, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

Apologies. I am new and I am still learning rules and policies such the neutrality policy. This won't happen again. WikipolicePolizei (talk) 15:16, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

I would find your comments offensive were they not laughable. Do me a favour and don't ever, not even by accident, hell, not even to reply to this message, come to my talk page again, or I will report you for breaking NPA and you will get blocked. I hope I made myself clear. Ostalgia (talk) 18:17, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

Just a recommendation, don't talk like a teenager whose hormones are raging. It makes you look unprofessional and unlikeable. For instance, your message:

"Do me a favor and don't ever, not even by accident, hell, not even to reply to this message,"

is unnecessarily aggressive and rude. WikipolicePolizei (talk) 18:24, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

Bye Felicia. Ostalgia (talk) 07:06, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

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